[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

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Originally Posted by oldbsturgeon

And just to make sure noone overpays for 1 flusterstorm, coolstuffinc has their polictical puppets deck in the on sale page for 19.99.

With that said, will snapcaster be the first rare in a while since mythics being introduced to get to a high price.
It already is more than any recent standard rare I can think of at this moment, but of course I don't always think very well.
Is the upcoming states going to make it go even more?

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States is the reason Innistrad cards are so high right now. The set just officially came out a week and a half ago and in less than one week we have States, which if you count all states attendance together, is probably going to be the biggest Magic event ever. Last year 5757 people played in States, the year before it was 6605 people. Assuming 20% of these people are playing or want to play 4x of any one new card that means you are looking at demand of around 4000-5000 of that card by this Saturday on a set that hasn't even been out 2 weeks. Liliana is a mythic, which means less than one a box. Many decks lately have been running 3x-4x Liliana. Add in the people who want the cards but aren't even playing in States then apply what you already know about supply and demand.

After States the prices are going to drop pretty quickly. More and more of the chase cards will be opened, Snapcaster is likely not as good in Standard as everyone originally thought (plenty of bad matchups), Liliana is also probably going to under-perform as people start to hate on Solar Flare more and more, everyone who needed the cards for States will either have them already or no longer have to sense of urgency that lead people to overpay for cards this week, ect. The prices will drop after States unless one strategy completely dominates and we end up with a new Caw/Blade scenario. Barring that everything indicates the prices have nowhere to go but down.

Snapcaster Mage is now $89.94 (nonfoil) and $210.00 (foil) on Amazing Discoveries.

At first, I was going to ask if anyone had any experience with that retailer, and to ridicule the store for raising prices to such obscene values. Then I realized they are likely primarily a CCG dealer at all, but rather, a cocaine supplier that disguises its operations by smuggling expensive powder in card sleeves.

Probably they've got the currency mixed up? Anyway in case none of you guys are familiar with standard, the card is the shitnutz with decks splashing blue just for it. Midrange wolfrun decks are splashing blue just for snapcaster. I don't really play standard but from what I've observed and discussed with the local ptq grinders, it's by a long mile the most powerful card in standard.

Those people are doing it wrong. Snapcaster is actually only supremely good in a very few decks where it can recur removal and card draw spells. RG decks splashing for it would honestly be better off playing more burn spells.

So no comments about new trends?

Prices of Legacy staples seem to be going downwards for the most part - aka see Wasteland (SCG & ebay), something like Entomb (reprint), etc.

Seems like a good time to start entering the format for those that were put away with constant price hikes.

When talking about Snapcaster - have heard of some combos, but I really dont believe it will be something supreme.

Its a body with flash, with ability similiar to good old Scrivener, Anarchist.

Direct power level of this wizard is bit ridiculous when comparing manacost body and abilities with scrivener. Allows to recall any spell once again, 4x in a deck, if you still have grave.

Indirect power level in standard is bit out of my scope since I dont play such format and dont know the meta or matchups. All I see is just T2 players are running crazy when first deck on tournament is running some easy mechanic which works. Snapcaster is good, but the price is ridiculous.

I know this is probably not the best place to put it but after a quick search, I couldn't find anywhere better.

Short of Ebay, what is the best place to sell your cards if you live in London, UK? Is there some sort of trade form like MOTL (which seems to be Americancentric) for the UK, or continental Europe for that matter?

Cheers!

Have you tried MKM? I would think that would be the best version.

On a side note, does anyone know a good place to pick up some full art Mutavaults? I'm in need of a few and no one on MOTL seems to have them.

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Originally Posted by SmallFish

On a side note, does anyone know a good place to pick up some full art Mutavaults? I'm in need of a few and no one on MOTL seems to have them.

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The dealers at the GP Amsterdam had some for 220 euros. Someone who knows better can most likely tell you the name of the shop as well as the contact information.

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Originally Posted by SmallFish

Have you tried MKM? I would think that would be the best version.

On a side note, does anyone know a good place to pick up some full art Mutavaults? I'm in need of a few and no one on MOTL seems to have them.

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That is currently one on Star City. Granted, it's $400, but they have one.

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Originally Posted by Pippin

So no comments about new trends?

Prices of Legacy staples seem to be going downwards for the most part - aka see Wasteland (SCG & ebay), something like Entomb (reprint), etc.

Seems like a good time to start entering the format for those that were put away with constant price hikes.

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yup

I just finished my wasteland playset.

The duals only seem to be rising though :(

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Originally Posted by Di

That is currently one on Star City. Granted, it's $400, but they have one.

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I did see that, but it seems quite high, as none have sold on ebay higher than $255. There were two on MKM about a week ago for $169 euro, but I don't know anyone over there to pick them up for me :(.

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Originally Posted by UnderwaterGuy

The duals only seem to be rising though :(

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Yes ! Seas seem to have taken a 20% rise in the last 2 months, same for trops...

Meh.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250915746832...84.m1423.l2649

Lol, yeap! Mind = blown.

I already feel Korean Foils going the way of Jap foils. I guess it's a good thing I'm not a foil whore (I actually don't like new-bordered foils) so I might just stick to Korean non-foils for consistency, until the hype dies out (which it never will, looking at Jap foils all these years)

Word on the street is Korean M12 is bombing in South Korea. Apparently the cards have lots of translation errors so Koreans can barely understand how to play the game and obviously MtG failed to launch in Korea before. Wouldn't be surprised if Korean M12 ends up being as hard to find as older Korean stuff in a couple years.

Yeah, I'm having a hell of a time finding it in that country. It seems all the stores sell the crap out of Gundam (whatever that is about), but you can't find MTG for the life of you. Got a guy running around trying to find some, but he's been to a bunch of hobby stores and they don't deal with it.

How the hell has that full art Mutavault reach Power Nine levels? Thats insanity! On another note, do any of you think the Graveborn decks are a good buy @ 30 USD? The deck has Cabal Therapy, Animate Dead and Entomb confirmed. Those alone make it worth buying the deck. I've preordered 4. If they throw in Reanimate, Exhume and Careful study as well, we are talking major good deal!

Yeah, it's a really good buy just from what I have seen also. Even with only a foil Cabal Therapy , alt art Animate Dead, and Entomb, that pretty much makes your money right there. I'm buying 3, but that's only because I expect to be able to trade for the last singletons and I don't want a pile of the ones that come as 2 or 3 of's.

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Originally Posted by dahcmai

Yeah, it's a really good buy just from what I have seen also. Even with only a foil Cabal Therapy , alt art Animate Dead, and Entomb, that pretty much makes your money right there. I'm buying 3, but that's only because I expect to be able to trade for the last singletons and I don't want a pile of the ones that come as 2 or 3 of's.

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The way you guys are talking, it seems not that far of a stretch that lots of other people are seeing this as a Legacy pre-con. Seas and FoW and etc aside, this list should have a lot of the cards the regular deck means. Makes one wonder if more of this archetype will pop up