[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

That 2-color land cycle in scars are now like 7$-12$ (Seachrome Coast, Darkslick shores, etc.). I am not into standard, so this really snuck up on me; last I knew they were like 1$-2$ rares. It makes sense though, they must be the best lands in standard with Fetches gone, and they aren't even half bad in legacy if for some ungodly reason you don't need fetches for top, brainstorm, more than 2 colors, KotR, lavamancer, etc.

Yeah, I was kind of sad about that since I had been picking up foil play sets of them for dirt cheap for a bit and missed out on getting the Seachrome's waiting for a good deal.

They are probably one of the better lands in Standard now, but they are Legacy playable. Especially in reanimators since you never go over 3 land most of the time anyway. I was using them in a reanimator that pulled Sundering Titans out of the grave for a bit. Works like a charm in that kind of deck.

The ub scars lands are played some in legacy like in dredge or reanimator simply because you can't island walk on it. Lol, surprisingly relevant. I can't wait to see the decklists. I think this deckbox will allow plenty of traditionally aggro control/control players to try out combo. Since entombs are used in one deck only, it's pretty low on most player's priority lists as they cost a ton. I would say we'll be seeing slightly more reanimator play now.

And English P3... whoa.

Good thing I'm selling out now and not six months ago. :p

So... legacy prices keep dropping. What's the rock bottom of what has been obviously a big bubble?
I can only imagine how this will end if Brainstorm gets the axe :)

My advice for all those speculators who are afraid of prices dropping even more is to cash out as soon as possible. I know I'll be keeping my own cards because I play with them, and hopefully my local community will be able to pick more playables thanks to discount.
Feels like recession has finally hit speculator's driven MTG market.

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Originally Posted by ivanpei

How the hell has that full art Mutavault reach Power Nine levels? Thats insanity!

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I just picked one up from an online vendor for 100 euro and I've seen a few others go relatively cheap. I think the ones on ebay have gone for alot because people aren't really looking too many places elsewhere (like the Japanese foil Mutavaults selling for $40 higher than SCG had them for sale - while they had some in stock).

I am still looking for some Champs Mutavaults though, if anyone can point me in the right direction.

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Originally Posted by Pippin

So... legacy prices keep dropping. What's the rock bottom of what has been obviously a big bubble?
I can only imagine how this will end if Brainstorm gets the axe :)

My advice for all those speculators who are afraid of prices dropping even more is to cash out as soon as possible. I know I'll be keeping my own cards because I play with them, and hopefully my local community will be able to pick more playables thanks to discount.
Feels like recession has finally hit speculator's driven MTG market.

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Most Legacy players are 18-24 years old and this is the point in college where shit starts to get hard and people put Magic on the back burner to concentrate on school. Add to that a lot of people who thought they were super smart putting money into speculating on Magic cards have been sitting on them for the better part of 6 months waiting for them to pull a Candelabra and now they are cutting their losses. The prices will go back up in time, this is a notoriously slow time of year for MTG going into the holiday season with more people concentrating on school/family and less tournaments scheduled. If you are into buying cards now is a good time. I bought in Winter of last year and paid about $250 for NM- playsets of Seas and $80 for NM playsets of Wastelands and similar prices for other staples. If that doesn't tell you something about the seasonal nature of Legacy cards...

It's always a good time to buy right now. Prices always dip because it's that time of year right before the Christmas season when stores start hurting for income. November always sucks for sales. I just grin and bear it since after Christmas rocks. (Kids get money from gifts). Before Dec is just a seriously slow time. Good time to buy that expensive stuff since it doesn't get much cheaper than right now. Everyone is saving for gifts and such and not buying for themselves.

For those of you who had been following this little saga earlier. Just stumbled across this again. The auction has changed! It just warms my heart :)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Black-Lo...16006330499646

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Originally Posted by dontbiteitholmes

Most Legacy players are 18-24 years old...

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In your area? I'd add ten years to that for an average around here

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Originally Posted by Royal Ass.

For those of you who had been following this little saga earlier. Just stumbled across this again. The auction has changed! It just warms my heart :)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Black-Lo...16006330499646

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I told him it was fake, and we had an extended series of conversations which culminated in him sending it in to BGS to determine whether it was rebacked. They sent it back ungraded, he talked to ABUgames and they gave him a $1900 refund (out of 2k) and let him keep it as a proxy, so he bought a real Alpha Lotus and is now apparently selling this one.

Thanks for the back story Gunslinga. I love his description of the card in the auction, it's priceless. So he bought an Alpha Lotus? For how much and in what condition and from who? I'm curious as there are not a lot of them floating around these days for a decent price. I bought a Beta lotus a few months ago and it was difficult to find much to chose from.

Pretty sure it was this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Lotus-...item3a6c1b94c4

That's not bad.

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Originally Posted by Mr.C

And English P3... whoa.

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Eff a bunch of Capture of Jingzhou. That was going to be my next acquisition, as the last time I looked at them they were ~$50, but $200+ can suck it.

I know, I so wanted another Rolling Earthquake, but hell with that price for a card I don't have a huge use for. Same goes for Ravages of War. Armageddon by another name is cool, but not that cool. I'll take my chances with Meddling Mage.

Why is Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed so much right now anyway? I know he's a favorite black EDH general, but $200 worth of coolness? He can't be that amazing in EDH. What am I missing with him? There some awesome combo with that guy or something?

I'm still sad I sold 2 Imperial Recruiters for $90 years ago thinking they would never go above that. lol I need two more now to have a play set. Irony.

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Originally Posted by dahcmai

I know, I so wanted another Rolling Earthquake, but hell with that price for a card I don't have a huge use for. Same goes for Ravages of War. Armageddon by another name is cool, but not that cool. I'll take my chances with Meddling Mage.

Why is Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed so much right now anyway? I know he's a favorite black EDH general, but $200 worth of coolness? He can't be that amazing in EDH. What am I missing with him? There some awesome combo with that guy or something?

I'm still sad I sold 2 Imperial Recruiters for $90 years ago thinking they would never go above that. lol I need two more now to have a play set. Irony.

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It's upto $200? I remember just a few years ago we were discussing it (probably in this thread) about it being around $40. This doubling game makes no sense...

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Originally Posted by dahcmai

I know, I so wanted another Rolling Earthquake, but hell with that price for a card I don't have a huge use for. Same goes for Ravages of War. Armageddon by another name is cool, but not that cool. I'll take my chances with Meddling Mage.

Why is Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed so much right now anyway? I know he's a favorite black EDH general, but $200 worth of coolness? He can't be that amazing in EDH. What am I missing with him? There some awesome combo with that guy or something?

I'm still sad I sold 2 Imperial Recruiters for $90 years ago thinking they would never go above that. lol I need two more now to have a play set. Irony.

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Demonic Tutor + XD is a combo, and in Mono black you can usually generate a shit ton off Coffers so you can recast him from the command zone a few times. He also lets you generate infinite and then kill a table with repeat Drain/Consume if your exsanguinate gets Praetor's grasp'd or otherwise RFG'd for instance.

He's just a massive swiss army knife in a properly built mono-black EDH deck as he is almost always useful. Hell I had gone beatdown with him a few times and rode Horsemanship FTW

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Originally Posted by Sims

I had gone beatdown with him a few times and rode Horsemanship FTW

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I see what you did there. Well played, sir, well played.

Was cleaning out the binder the other day and noticed that Willow Satyr is now rocking almost $20 retail. Can someone T8 a SCG Open with this guy in their board so I can profit even more off that one pack of Legends I bought back in the day?