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It's definately still viable, but I'm not quite sure if it's still the best deck in the format. Landstill remains favourable, especially if they don't really board hate against us. Team America is a pain and Merfolk gets a little harder, but there should be a bit more aggro with those decks running around.
I suppose people will try out Abeyance and the like, not sure what I'd run.
Pact of Negation is pretty good at fighting the Misstep eejits, so I expect to see that.
Pact of negation is pretty weaksauce with lion's eye diamond.
On the more than one tendrils plan. I like it for Providence; I would be packing 2 in the SB, one MD if I were to play at the GP. Going protection spell protection spell both getting countered obviously then just chaining cantrips together into rituals into tendrils seems like a good plan to win.
On the doomsday SB plan. I see no reason for it; people have caught on to the tech and adapted. That and counterbalance is not THE deck to beat anymore. It's more Uw landstill, team america, and merfolk now with some other decks on the side.
If used as your only protection spell, this is true. But its role is to push through Chant or Duress, and so it's the best choice when you need 10 or more protection spells in your deck because it doesn't tie up mana on your combo turn. It's especially strong in lists with more than 1 Ad Nauseam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Ritual
wow Ari have 24 points in the green bracket and goes to day 2 at GP.
Did he use his grim list or any innovation?
Somebody knows anything?
I hope he's playing TNT.Quote:
Originally Posted by amonchakai
in his tweeter he says not to like so much the burning...maybe yes but i think no
Finally Ari and Brian aren't in top 8...
good for people thinking:combo is out of radar,or worse for can't see his decklist?
Maybe they will post it here?
Great finish Ari! Please share your sb if you find time to post:)
Main deck was 60/60 the same as last year, sideboard was 10/15. It is currently
2 Tendrils (Landstill and CB)
1 Ad Naus (for mirrors + BUG)
3 Bob (see above, not for Junk)
2 Rebuild (obv)
3 Chain (obv)
2 Thoughtseize (obv)
2 Echoing Truth (bounce vs Misstep, nice vs Chalice + other hate, 2x for Infernal)
Beat Zoo, Junk, Affinity, Gearhart's 4C CB-Top Brew (was counter light), Sneak and Show, Team Italia, and 2x Fish. Lost to BUG (bad match up, he had 4x Brainstorm G1 and I mulled to 4 G@), Bant deck that won (both games I win if I know he doesn't have Force and end up hitting the marginal percentage I sacrificed to play around it), Fish (can't win them all), and RUG Bloodbraid Elf thing (G1 he Brainstormed into the second Force when I went off after hitting the first, G2 I mulled into a mediocre hand and died).
In the world of Mental Misstep, 8-4 (assuming from your post) is not a bad finish. At least someone is keeping the ANT flag flying. :) What was your overall position?
Great work, Ari!
#35 (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazin...pro11/standfin)Quote:
Originally Posted by Solar Ice
Yeah, 35th. Mark Tocco also went x-4 and came in around the same position without Grim Tutors.
Oh, BTW, Grim was insane for me. There was a lot more Ad Nausing from 19 than usual, as which point Grim is often better to flip than Infernal.
Definitely would have gone x-2 had I run a bit better and not lost the either the Bant or RUG deck, both of which were very surprised to have beat me. Tested against the Batterskull Landstill decks and was dismantling them.
Congratulations Ari and all ANT players in the GP. Is there any chance that Mark Tocco can share his list? (is it the Practicals list without Grim?) Thank you.
Great work Ari..
It's always a shame that you lose good match-ups, still 35th is a good performance especially when you can say that under normal circumstances you could've beat 2 more.
Also curious about that other list.
I know he only had 1 Ad Naus main, 1 Mox + 16 lands, and no IGG just 2 Tendrils (IGG in the board).Quote:
Originally Posted by addaro
Well I guess this is something like a curse of combo players - I placed 71st at BoM 3 because I lost against Dredge and Sneak Show - both very good match-ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by practical joke
That's a nature of combo, I guess, sometimes you just lose to itself. Anyways, I must express my concern for these pesky Landstill decks. The other day I've assembled a combo hand with 3 pieces of protection, only for it play out like this:
Me: Chant, Him: Misstep
Me: Silence, Him: Misstep
Me: Duress, Him: Counterspell
And then he of course Snares my tutor (and holds a FOW as well). And a few more games went in a similar fashion, he nearly always had more hard counters than I had pieces of protection.
I'm not even sure there's a reliable way to fight that. I wish I had a Tendrils in hand at that point, since that 'counterwar' generates a ton of storm. I see that Ari thought the same way and runs 2 Tendrils in the S/B. I guess this is better plan than Xantids or additional Discard/Chant effects. I almost think that 3 Tendrils in the S/B isn't that bad of the idea, if your meta justifies it, or is it? Does it work against Landstill?
I've been running Practical Joke's list for a while and love the mainboard, the sideboard I have been thinking about switching up a little bit though. At first I didn't really like the idea of 2 tendrils in the sideboard but then after thinking about it and test playing it I love it. With control being as heavily played and dominate as it is I've finally given in and had to switch up the board.
What does everyone think of Xantid swarm in the board still? I am still on the fence with them, I haven't been able to playtest against fish because for some reason it isn't as popular in my local meta. Right now my sideboard is:
1 Emrakul
1 Shelldock Isle
1 Tropical Island
2 Chain of vapor
2 Echoing Truth
4 Doomsday
4 Xantid Swarm
I plan on switching it to:
1 Tropical Island
2 Chain of Vapor
2 Tendrils of Agony
2 Echoing Truth
4 Dark Confidant
4 Xantid Swarm
Any thoughts or opinions?