[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

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Originally Posted by dschalter

People think they will be banned in Modern, that's why the price has gone down.

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I think that would be a mistake. It wasn't really all that oppressive. Its no where near as strong as Cloudpost was (as Cloudpost completely invalidated every control strategy). Its not like the card invalidated aggro strategies either. Affinity performed decently well and half the zoo decks were too busy doming players for 5 with Tribal Flames. Honestly, the ban would hurt control decks more than aggro.

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Originally Posted by 264505

I think that would be a mistake. It wasn't really all that oppressive. Its no where near as strong as Cloudpost was (as Cloudpost completely invalidated every control strategy). Its not like the card invalidated aggro strategies either. Affinity performed decently well and half the zoo decks were too busy doming players for 5 with Tribal Flames. Honestly, the ban would hurt control decks more than aggro.

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The argument is so much that it's oppressive to the format - all the general Magic deck genres exist, except that there's only one really viable aggro deck. You ever try to play Faeries in the Modern Queues? Don't. Only one aggro deck exists right now, and it's mostly because Zoo's resistant to Punishing Fires, and quite good. Most other aggro decks fold to P-Fire on the spot.

Also, it's the most annoying card to play with or against purely because of the effort required to continually mess with it. Top was the same way, and it got banned in Constructed during it's time as well for this reason.

Before:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/180743812434


After:
http://sales.starcitygames.com/cardd...product=376358

Thought this was interesting. I think he got a good deal originally, but that's a pretty steep mark-up.

So Darkslick Shores seem to be fetching quite a bit now a days. This is a tough read for me for some reason, I kind of want to ditch them now but I have a feeling they may not drop much when they rotate. Second opinions?

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Originally Posted by dontbiteitholmes

So Darkslick Shores seem to be fetching quite a bit now a days. This is a tough read for me for some reason, I kind of want to ditch them now but I have a feeling they may not drop much when they rotate. Second opinions?

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They will drop quite a bit when they rotate. I just don't see the rare lands from Scars of Mirrodin being playable in any other format other than standard. They sure have increased in price when you could purchase playsets for $10-12 on eBay.

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Originally Posted by dontbiteitholmes

So Darkslick Shores seem to be fetching quite a bit now a days. This is a tough read for me for some reason, I kind of want to ditch them now but I have a feeling they may not drop much when they rotate. Second opinions?

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They will probably drop down to where they were before Zen Block rotated the fetch lands out. The next block is going back to Ravnica so all indication is that the shock lands will be getting reprinted.

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Originally Posted by 264505

They will probably drop down to where they were before Zen Block rotated the fetch lands out. The next block is going back to Ravnica so all indication is that the shock lands will be getting reprinted.

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The guys over at Salvation seem to be pretty convinced that this is not the case.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=361706

I'm fairly certain that the Scars lands will hold some value though I would suspect it may be only Darkslick Shores in the end. Sundering Titan goes very well with those types of lands.

Reanimators use them for budget choices also since it's rare to need more than 3 lands in those also. Much cheaper alternative to Underground Seas and it actually works better than the Ravnica lands in those decks. Only problem is you can't fetch one up, but they are excellent any other time.

The other colored ones don't have too much use past budget reasoning, but Darkslick goes in quick black/Blue decks quite well.


I've been watching another trend lately. EDH staple foils are starting to get even more insane. Have you noticed that even the fairly newer ones are getting out of hand quickly? That format has way too much control on prices it seems. Though I like it since it gave some value to old crappy cards.

I don't think any of the Scars lands will be worth shit when they rotate. They aren't playable anywhere, especially Commander.

Just bought 2 Legends Moats (english).They are NM/NM-. Is 144 eur (roughly 185 usd) each a good price? I think it is since I see NM Italian ones go for 120 eur each... what do you think?

Seems like a good price. It's a decent investment too since it's not like that card will ever see print again and it's never going to get outdated by some improved version.

Nice acquisitions in regards to the Moats! Congrats.

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Originally Posted by Octopusman

Nice acquisitions in regards to the Moats! Congrats.

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Thanks. I highly suggest heading to MKM for expensive cards (as long as you are EU, or have a friend in EU) as MKM sellers usually grade their cards very strictly and have competitive prices. The seller described the Moats as ''Good'', and had scans available. I was amazed by the beautifulness of those ''good'' Moats. Something like that would easily pass for Mint on ebay or on Motl.

Also picked a set of Mint foil Pernicious Deeds (not JR ones) for 122 eur shipped. Seriously MKM has some nice prices. I really would like them to go international, prices would be even better probably.

Edit: Speaking of foil Deeds. I just sold my old JR foil set, and picked the booster foils. I thought that normal booster foil would go for way more than the JR promo foil, but they are almost on the same level. Someone even values the JR ones slightly more than the boosters one. Why? To me the old foil Deed is unquestionably sexier.

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Originally Posted by Undomian

The guys over at Salvation seem to be pretty convinced that this is not the case.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=361706

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Still possible the shocks make an appearance soon. Part of the reason they named them the way they did (as opposed to the karoos) was so that they could be reprinted at a later date.

Gravecrawler is already $5! bumped up from a 1.99 this morning.

We don't know what else is in the set yet, but if they print more zombies like this we may have a real deck on our hands here. If that's the case I could easily see this thing stabilizing in price at $10-$12 conservatively, possibly $8, but I'm temped to think they're really gonna drive this zombie theme home.

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Originally Posted by snappingbowls | ಠ_ಠ

Gravecrawler is already $5! bumped up from a 1.99 this morning.

We don't know what else is in the set yet, but if they print more zombies like this we may have a real deck on our hands here. If that's the case I could easily see this thing stabilizing in price at $10-$12 conservatively, possibly $8, but I'm temped to think they're really gonna drive this zombie theme home.

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This guy is the buy-a-box promo card for the set. Alt art but not sure what that will do to the price.

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Originally Posted by millerd33

This guy is the buy-a-box promo card for the set. Alt art but not sure what that will do to the price.

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Here's a hint. It will increase supply without increasing demand.

As far as Standard cards go Birthing Pod looks like a sure bet with undying.

Also looks like Zombies are the new Vampires.

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Originally Posted by Amon Amarth

I don't think any of the Scars lands will be worth shit when they rotate. They aren't playable anywhere, especially Commander.

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They are very good in Modern. Looking at Daily MTGO tournaments, in Jund people usually play 4-5 Ravnica duals and 5-6 Scars duals. Tempo decks also love them.

When did Gaea's Cradle become a sixty dollar card? Fucking bullshit.

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Originally Posted by clavio

When did Gaea's Cradle become a sixty dollar card? Fucking bullshit.

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About 10 months ago when Matt Nass did well at San Jose.