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Am I the only one thinking that this thing is not really backbreacking? I'm mean: if they cast it at a buisness spell we are done for, but we still have protection spells to get rid of it. Against U decks we usually go off protected anyways. This means that they either have to cast it @ Duress or see it getting ripped from their hand. Thus, its just something in between Mindbreak Trap and Spell Pierce.
Going off protected has become almost impossible at this point. MM tags all the protection spells, and this one helps with that too. On top of that, they still have Force as always. They have reached a critical mass of back breaking cards against Storm, and U will be just about impossible to beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoboLord
I could see Storm players using this card against blue. I'm going to give it a shot.
Thta's about the only way I can see us having a shot tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
Nothing to worry about, imo. Blue decks are already very tight on slots. The card is too narrow to be maindecked, and Spell Pierce is still the best option for a SB counter because its application is much broader. Seeing a new card with the Storm mechanic is pretty exciting, though
Curious rules question: Assume you are a storm player playing with this new card (Cook's suggestion). You storm a bunch and they FoW, you cast Flutterstorm on FoW. They choose to let it get countered. Now you have a bunch of Flutterstorm on the stack, can you target every Flutterstorm on the stack against each other in such a way you won't end up having to end up countering your own spells you played prior to Flutterstorm on the stack?
I believe the answer is yes, but just wanted some clarification.
Using this card to protect against itself won't do much good if the opponent has some spare mana imo.
Say, you cast some spells, and then your opponent Flusterstorms one of them. With his copies on the stack, you cast your own, targeting each copy of his at least once. Then, he pays for 3 or 4 of his copy's to resolve. Can you still combo out trough that Mana Leak? Or am I thinking something wrong here?
You actually point all them to FoWQuote:
Originally Posted by Metalwalker
You could just target each of them at the FoW and then they fizzle after it's countered correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by Metalwalker
Yes, the copies can even target the other copies on the stack if you want to.
If it really comes down to: "U= loss, non-U= probably not" then we could just as well switch to Belcher since its better in beating non-U decks.Quote:
Originally Posted by lorddotm
There won't be a Jap Foil version. I am doing this as well. Although it makes going Hellbent for Infernal extremely hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
That works. I was thinking what happens if you only say assign 2 copies to FoW (enough to counter FoW) and carelessly had copies floating around, can you annihliate the copies like matter+anti-matter annihilation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Arew
You need to announce a target for every copy when it goes on the stack. No carelessly floating around here...
//EDIT
@ Gui: Say you have 6 copies on stack.
Copy 1: targets Force of Will
Copy 2: targets Force of Will
Copy 3: targets Force of Will
Copy 4: targets Copy 3
Copy 5: targets Copy 4
Copy 6: targets Copy 5
Yup, you can't wait with unannounced targets.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoboLord
But I believe you got to choose the target after the copy is put into the stack, can't you target the other copy, then? This is some awesome question, cuz it will never be the case. xD
NO! Will it at least come in Japanese?
Not for a cold fuckin' minute. It took more than a year for JvC to be in Japanese.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
Disclaimer:
I would not be complaining about this card at all if Mental Misstep didn't exist.
There will be Japanese versions, because I think my shop ordered some foreign displays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
It'll be out in Japan, yeah. One of the Wizards Articles showed all the versions of some legendary card in the set, and Japanese was definitely one of them.
That card is absolute garbage. Mindbreak trap is way better, and that card is crap as well.
What blue deck needs to put this in their maindeck, or sideboard for that matter? Maybe solidarity?
Is it safe to unban frantic search and mtutor yet?
I wouldn't go as far as to call it garbage, but I'll agree that it's not maindeck material for blue.dec. Spell Pierce sees plenty of play in boards and this card is STRICTLY better. I'd fully expect any deck running pierce in the side to switch to this once it's printed.