[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

What's the deal with the Zendikar full art lands? I wanted some because I was bored with my usual lands, but I looked at 3 reliable online vendors and they've been cleaned out! A couple more have limited or no stock on the foils. I understand they're pretty and are probably a safe investment, but 3 stores. 3! Am I missing something?

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Originally Posted by hyperchord24

What's the deal with the Zendikar full art lands? I wanted some because I was bored with my usual lands, but I looked at 3 reliable online vendors and they've been cleaned out! A couple more have limited or no stock on the foils. I understand they're pretty and are probably a safe investment, but 3 stores. 3! Am I missing something?

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Regular or foil? I know the foil ones are starting to become scarce, but the regular versions are everywhere...

Trollandtoad, coolstuffinc and lotusvault are cleaned out of the regular full art lands.

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Originally Posted by hyperchord24

Trollandtoad, coolstuffinc and lotusvault are cleaned out of the regular full art lands.

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http://findmagiccards.com/Cards/ZE/Island__234_.html
http://findmagiccards.com/Cards/ZE/Island__236_.html

etc

Also, www.Cardshark.com

Yours isn't actually a problem at all when compared to my problem:

http://static.starcitygames.com/sale...T/island_4.jpg

http://www.magiccardmarket.eu/Island_5_(Battle_Royale)

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Originally Posted by death

Yours isn't actually a problem at all when compared to my problem:

http://static.starcitygames.com/sale...T/island_4.jpg

http://www.magiccardmarket.eu/Island_5_(Battle_Royale)

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http://www.abugames.com/card139121-2...ngle-Card.html

Yeah, I was about to post that link also. I was wondering why that particular one was so high. It shouldn't be. Royale wasn't hard to get at all. I have a bunch of those lands lying around myself.

Due to the ICP Time Walk, Personal Tutor has shot up to around $45, which is excellent news for me, a proud owner of two. I'm gonna try to trade them (probably indirectly) for Wastelands as soon as I can.

What clearing price do you guys think Tutor will settle at? Warrior's Oath never really came down after that artifact that ends your turn in M12 saw print, so I don't foresee it dropping below $30 long term.

I don't see Personal Tutor ever coming back down, either. I still have my $2 one I got for EDH, I think.

Right now, people are asking 30+€ for them. However, according to mcm statistics, none has sold at that price thus far.

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Originally Posted by cdr

I don't see Personal Tutor ever coming back down, either. I still have my $2 one I got for EDH, I think.

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IMO its going to drop a bit once people get over the ZOMG miracle is power thing (mox opal wasn't, visions from beyond wasn't, time reversal wasn't, temporal mastery isn't). R&D is just burning through more "magic equity" as they put it and savvy traders are buying out online stocks so they can ride the hype by looking at what we want to combo it with.

IMO personal would also plummet the moment mystical got unbanned.

If you're lucky enough to have personal tutors, (Or like medina, bought them out of store)

You should probably dump them on ebay now. Even if you only get 30-35 a piece, you'll do pretty well.

All the hype with tutor is way overblown. You're not going to waste a card just so you can find a time walk. Especially the people who think they'll be noxiousing it up for secondsies.

Even if Mastery is as good as everyone is acting like it is it's still not worth Personal Tutoring up. Oh hai, Personal Tutor for Mastery, it gets countered :'''(. Of course if it is as good as everyone says then it will probably get banned sooner than later. Either way I'd sell Personal Tutor's ASAP.

Agreed, sell now. Running 4 sorceries to find 4 conditional sorceries leaves you with 52 cards that need to get there. People will realize that masturwalking for three turns isn't as jizzy as maturstorming for one.

Most of the Warrior's Oath auctions that are up are all me anyway. I haven't sold one in a while. I just don't see any others and have a monopoly on it right now so why not hold out. Last one I got rid of went at $25 to a local. That's probably closer to a real price though I personally think it should be lower aside from that whole rarity thing. That's it's real reason for holding a price anymore, not playability.

It's nothing special other than a collector's piece. Final Fortune is the best of those cards anyway. The portal Last Chance one should run you less if you feel the need to run more than 4.


Personal Tutor is one I hold onto. It is after all one of the last cheap costed tutors in Legacy. Intuition is better for the most part, but Personal can have it's uses and there's no good replacement for it. It kind of sucks still even with Psuedo-Walk, but it's going to eventually have a target worth ditching that card for and that's when it's going to really go up. I'll wait for it. It also has that rarity factor to buffer the loss over time.

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Originally Posted by dahcmai

Most of the Warrior's Oath auctions that are up are all me anyway. I haven't sold one in a while. I just don't see any others and have a monopoly on it right now so why not hold out. Last one I got rid of went at $25 to a local. That's probably closer to a real price though I personally think it should be lower aside from that whole rarity thing. That's it's real reason for holding a price anymore, not playability.

It's nothing special other than a collector's piece. Final Fortune is the best of those cards anyway. The portal Last Chance one should run you less if you feel the need to run more than 4.


Personal Tutor is one I hold onto. It is after all one of the last cheap costed tutors in Legacy. Intuition is better for the most part, but Personal can have it's uses and there's no good replacement for it. It kind of sucks still even with Psuedo-Walk, but it's going to eventually have a target worth ditching that card for and that's when it's going to really go up. I'll wait for it. It also has that rarity factor to buffer the loss over time.

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I think the key is that Personal Tutor is super inflated right now because of noob speculation with Mastery. Kind of how when a new card gets unbanned it shoots up in value 300% for a couple weeks, then everyone realizes it's not that great and it settles back around 120-150% of what it used to go for. If you are speculating P Tutor for sale I'd pull the trigger three days ago, it's only going to go down, if you think it's going to get broken one day you can always buy them again once the hype dies down and all the kids who bought stacks on speculation are looking to ditch them at half what they paid to move on to their next failure. Really though I wouldn't get my hopes up too high, anything worth running Personal Tutor in a deck for is worth running as a 4 of, and at that point Intuition and Lim-Dul's Vault are just infinity times better most of the time in my book. (Can't believe no one's brought up Lim-Dul's Vault for Mastery yet, just more proof that the Legacy community is very narrow minded when it comes to forum hype.)

I think the floor is going to fall out on Mastery soon though. People are starting to actually test it and realize that 4x Mastery does not instantly make every single deck in existence better. I've seen 100 people say it's too good and needs to be banned, and I've seen all of one deck list so far where it actually seemed to make the deck any better (and about 50 crappy ones).

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/def...05282c9dd4.jpg

It may not be a bad idea after all to reserve a playset for yourself. I've stockpiled on Personal Tutor after Mystical was banned. Now will be the best time to sell those before one of these shit gets banned

I want it for the art. I love how you can see her nip.

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Originally Posted by KevinTrudeau

Due to the ICP Time Walk, Personal Tutor has shot up to around $45, which is excellent news for me, a proud owner of two. I'm gonna try to trade them (probably indirectly) for Wastelands as soon as I can.

What clearing price do you guys think Tutor will settle at? Warrior's Oath never really came down after that artifact that ends your turn in M12 saw print, so I don't foresee it dropping below $30 long term.

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Depends significantly on the actual impact of Temporal Mastery (and to a lesser extent the other Miracle cards). If Personal Tutor+Temporal Mastery becomes a thing in Legacy and maybe other formats, its price is going to stay up, though it may drop some after the initial rush. If it turns out to be overrated and dies out or becomes so powerful that bannings result in it losing power (whether that banning be Personal Tutor, Brainstorm, or Temporal Mastery itself), then Personal Tutor's price is going to go back down. Too much really depends on how Temporal Mastery and the other Miracle cards actually do in real play, particularly in conjunction with Personal Tutor.

You can add foil Noxious Revivals to that list of enablers that went up.