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Eva Green (and White) by Sylvain Durand
1 Forest
1 Plains
2 Bloodstained Mire
2 Windswept Heath
3 Bayou
3 Polluted Delta
3 Scrubland
3 Swamp
4 Wasteland
2 Tombstalker
3 Nantuko Shade
4 Dark Confidant
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Pernicious Deed
3 Smother
3 Swords to Plowshares
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Sinkhole
4 Thoughtseize
4 Vindicate
Sideboard:
4 Extirpate
4 Planar Void
4 Engineered Plague
3 Krosan Grip
Does Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and/or Volrath's Stronghold seem like a fit for this deck? I single Urborg can turn those unused Wastelands into counters for Shade. With all the creatures in this deck, Stronghold seems pretty strong. Especially if you have to go into the long game.
that's not eva green anymore,
eva green is a tempo based version of suicide, the best suicide version probably.
the list u posted is probably deadguy or deadguy rock and dont belong in this threat.
the list sure looks strong but its not eva green, if i was you i would post it in the deadguy threat.
Yup, I agree, that list is definitely Deadguy alright. Althoguh I question some of the pilot, such as Smothers, the lack of Accel, the lack of Top, and Sinkhole(which seems to be the weakest link in Deadguy from what I've seen)...Quote:
Originally Posted by electrolyze
what do you guys think bout fulminator mage? seems pretty damn good 3 mana for 2/2 and you can sac it like a wasteland
its a really bad grizzly bear or a bad sinkhole, it dont gives you tempo and more land destruction is not really needed, especialy nonbasic land destruction is not so good because you already have wasteland what would be enough to kill 1/2 lands.
Technically it's both a bad sinkhole and a bad grizzly bear. Not that I'm particularly defending the card as I think it's still crap, but given that it can nail the land at any time at instant speed, even as a combat trick with damage on the stack, makes it somewhat more appealing.Quote:
Originally Posted by electrolyze
That said, the guy belongs more in Deadguy than in Eva Green, if anywhere.
I think its a bad sinkhole or a bad grizzly bear. it would be IMO better as a CIP effect
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I'd like some advice on how to sideboard against CounterSlivers. In my first tournament with Eva Green, I played against Slivers twice (unusual, for sure, but I lost both times), and now I'm expecting at least one Sliver build in a small local tournament this weekend.
My decklist is the same as on the first page except for Extirpate over Leylines in the board.
This is what I've been thinking so far:
- Engineered Plague: Slivers aren't really too impressed with a single Plague on the board with all of their pump effects. I dropped it once or twice against them and it hardly made a difference.
- Choke: Usually affects all of their lands, but if they get an early Aether Vial, again it doesn't slow them down all that much.
- Umezawa's Jitte: I think you probably want those. Jitte is still useful when Snuff Out would have become dead because of a Crystalline Sliver.
Also, what to board out?
- Snuff Out: Is useless if they get a Crystalline. But Plague isn't really strictly better here (though maybe Jitte is).
- Seal of Primordium: Seems like an obvious choice because it only hits Aether Vial, but then again, if I decide to bring in Choke, this might be good enough to keep them in.
Thoughts?
I would bring in choke and jitte for sinkhole and snuff out. Although an option is to cut choke from the board, if you expect slivers, and run either crime/punishment, EE, or Pernicious Deed. Those cards are very bad for them. So is dystopia if you want to try that over choke or the yard hate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amaroid
only one idea:
- 1 polluted delta
+ 1 shriekmaw
can bč suitable?
I would strongly advise against going below 17 permanent black sources in the deck. Additionally if you wanted to run shriekmaw in a certain metagame, you would probably want to run more than just 1. I really don't see the point of singletons in this deck.Quote:
Originally Posted by kikkofrio
I already made - 1 swamp +1 bayou. Is it wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by nitewolf9
I don't see shriekmaw as a single card, but the fifth removal and the 17th creature.
Is there something of good from shadowmoore?
I've been playtesting this deck (more or less the original build in the first post) with great succes. In real life, however, I do not have acces to goyfs and I'm therefore running a budget version with Quirion dryads. It turns out, it is not awful. it could easily attack as a 4/4 turn 3, after a ritual and two BB spells, and as a 5/5 or 6/6 turn 4. Also, the possible antisynergy with goyf/stalker is not a problem. The obvious drawbacks are that a small dryad is very easy to get rid of, and the fact that only the first played dryad will have any probability to grow.
Of course, this is a budget alternative to goyf, and I don't really suggest that it should be played in an opted version of the deck. Either way, does anyone have any inputs in the subject? Experience with trying and furter tips? What else could be played instead of goyfs in a budget version? Or is it just so, that goyf is the reason for Eva Green's existence, and if you don't have them you should just run monoblack sui in the first place?
A lot of quiestions...
Goyf is really in a class of it's own, which is why 1:1 replacements are sort of hard to think of and usually going without it involves shifting the mana base and creature composition around to account for the fact that there isn't a giant undercosted fatty for 1G in that slot. The only other creature to offer comparable size for the mana is Tempting Wurm, which you could try but I suspect is not going to be a very strong play much of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Henrik
Tarmogoyf was the reason this deck came into being. If you do not have access to goyfs I do not feel that the green splash is worth it at all. While I would suggest trying to acquire a set as soon as you can if you plan on continuing to play magic I do understand that 200 bucks for a set is more than a little steep. If suicide black really is your cup of tea, mono black is probably the way to go. The only issue there though is that without enough fetchlands tombstalker is weakened. And if you run fetch lands...why not splash? One option is to try the red splash again as moon effects are still pretty strong:Quote:
Originally Posted by Henrik
4 tombstalker
4 nantuko shade
4 hypnotic specter
4 magus of the moon
4 dark ritual
4 thoughtseize
4 hymn to tourach
4 sinkhole
4 snuff out
3 price of progress / terminate / whatever
4 wasteland
4 polluted delta
4 bloodstained mire
3 badlands
6 swamp
board:
4 plague
4 blood moon
4 leyline of the void
3 jitte
It's a thought and might be a good alternative if you are goyfless. Like I said though, you should probably try to pick up a set over time, it is a good investment.
Well, that was the expected answer, and I suppose I agree with you. For now, I will be playing monoblack sui or deadguy versions that include stalker/top. Almost as much fun.
And yes, I intend to get hold of a playset goyfs in time, just not right now.
Thanks for the responses.
@nitewolf9
Have you played Eva Green at any tournaments within the last month? If so, what were the results?
I have played it twice in the last month and a half in the local tournament here in NoVA and I top 4'd each time (we split). It was the original list on the first post of this thread, same sideboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by kabal