I've played it before. It's the real deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tammit67
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I've played it before. It's the real deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tammit67
I believe Hunting Pack is a running joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tammit67
It has to be.
I have too, in solidarity. The token plan is much worse when it comes out later than EtW does, and the list of cards that answer one but not the other isn't long enough to sacrifice speedQuote:
Originally Posted by RaNDoMxGeSTuReS
Sssshhhhhhhh hunting pack is supposed to be to new super secret tech in the nourishing lich thread. Don't spoil it!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by joemauer
That still doesn't excuse abhorrently poor play. An anomaly perhaps, but playing like that and making Top Eight it would certainly be reasonable to assume there were a plethora of factors accumulating in his favor (good match-ups, benefiting from opponents' even worse play, breakers etc.). This is assuming he was inexperienced with the deck to begin with. It's hard to argue that though after watching that painful coverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by RaNDoMxGeSTuReS
Took down a, now biweekly due to popular demand, Big 1.5 tournament earlier today at my neighborhood store in south Minneapolis and won a Taiga with the GP list I used minus the post-GP IoK change (-1 Duress, -3 Pyroblast, +4 IoK in the board). I didn't get a chance to try out one of the various new Maverick-in-mind SB configurations I had in mind because only thirteen people showed up due to the AVR release falling upon the same day at Monster Den's sister store, Monster Den not advertising the tournament to its fullest extent, and some people leaving a week early for Pro Tour Barcelona, and I figured a five Chant, Echoing Truth list would do better against the smaller field. Highlights included casting a turn one Ill-Gotten Gains on the play against an unfortunate Rifter opponent (a matchup incredibly in my favor, even with the twelve cards he boards in against me games two and three) and then having said Rifter opponent mulligan to two the following game (I'm sorry, Blake), making up for it the next round by playing very tightly against a round two Canadian Thresh opponent, successfully baiting Force with Ad Nauseam at eleven life (not that I hoodwinked him or anything as he was kind of forced to counter it due to the mana I'd had at the time of casting) and then Chanting into a Daze-proof BW->Tendrils the same turn game one, utilizing Leyline of the Meek for my own ill-gotten gains and just ignoring a Leyline of Sanctity at four life in a surprisingly very tense game three against the Leyline, Opalescence deck by making fourteen Goblins, and running very well in the finals against a pink shirt-clad Sir Ryan Broverturf with Canadian Thresh (recent SCG Legacy Open winner and the guy I played in the last round of the GP), winning off of a Diminishing Returns with no mana floating because I chose to Chant pre-DR game one and an Ad Nauseam at seven life with three black floating game two.
The Mav sideboards I had in mind went with the 4 Chant, 3 Duress, 1 IoK maindeck protection plan Bryant's running so that only seven cards are needed for sure to be boarded in (basically assuming the Mav opponent isn't playing Chant/MBT).
Config #1: boarding in four bounce spells (three Chains and a Wipe Away or two Chains, one Echoing Truth, one Wipe Away) and three IoK, leaving the flex SB deals-with-permanents slot (once you consider seven SB slots are already basically set in stone as Wish targets: Tendrils, Empty, IGG, Dim Returns, PiF, Shattering Spree, and Grapeshot) as Silent Departure or potentially Infest/Virtue's Ruin.
Config #2: boarding in three bounce spells (two Chain, one Wipe), three IoK, and a Thoughtseize/probably not, but maybe Cabal Therapy (enabling Wishing for a trump for FoW game one), said flex slot being, again, Silent Departure or potentially Infest/Virtue's Ruin.
Config #3: making the Silent Departure a Deathmark and siding either that or Grapeshot (if Grapeshot, Deathmark could also just be Silent Departure) in game two along with the orthodox three bounce spells (two Chain, one Wipe) and three IoK; this would for sure make room for Infest/Virtue's Ruin (which I suppose could also be in consideration for the card to be boarded in, not Deathmark/Grapeshot).
Deathmark could also always just be the one CMC Wish-able board disruption over Departure in these configurations.
There are many other configs possible, obviously including the one Bryant has suggested, especially once you consider this is only considering boarding in seven cards in against Maverick; I don't honestly know which one is best, and unfortunately probably won't know for some time due to a heavy work schedule this month and the Minneapolis GP coming up in two weeks that I need to prepare for.
(I'm a dummy.)
Not really. Top 4 in the standardevent and a fail in legacy. UW delver > TES?
Yeah, I was looking at the wrong tab in the coverage. Internetting is hard, yo.
Planning on going to Jupiter Games NELC thus weekend with syorm. Wanted to know if i could get some sideboard help from fellow sourcers. Current board is:
1 past in flames
1ill - gotten gains
2 echoing truth
3 inqusition of kozelik
1 grapeshot
1 empty the warrens
1 massacre
1 infest
1 diminishing returns
1 shatering spree
1tendrils of agony
1free spot
Sorry for grammar. Sent from cell.
Cell phones are no excuse for shitty grammar. Take an extra three seconds and clean up that garbage.Quote:
Originally Posted by lambert101
Don't play Massacre. It can't beat a Gaddock Teeg. Play Deathmark or Silent Departure.
Also Hunting Pack.
Wow! Sorry for grammar. I didn't realize how bad it was. Is Hunting Pack something seriously being tested in storm? I feel the green is akward to make. Deathmark doesn't help with Mom and Thalia out. Any suggestions for a better board to combat Maverick?
Silent Departure seems reasonable to me if you expect Reanimator and really hate Deathmark. I guess if Reanimator makes a Griselbrand, Silent Departure won't do you any good, though.
I like Virtues Ruin if you are worried about multiple white creatures.I am also pretty sure jupiter has one or two in stock.
Unfortunately, neither would Deathmark.Quote:
Originally Posted by thefringthing
I'd rather face a Griselbrand than a Jin-Gitaxias anyway (and neither gets hit by Deathmark), unless you have Pyroblasts in the sideboard, since otherwise all your removal is sorcery speed. Jin-Gitaxias puts you on a one-turn clock; Griselbrand is in most situations a one-turn clock, but if your opponents gets off, occasionally, short-storming will be enough to get there.
So besides the random/or high tech Hunting Pact, does anyone have a good configuration for beating Thalia.dec? I played against Death and Taxes in addition to Maverick last night and I tried maindeck IoK over Duress and then brought in Duress as needed. What do people think about this?
Board now is:
1 Past in Flames
1 Diminishing Returns
1 Ill-Gotten Gains
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Grapeshot
2 Echoing Truth
1 Infest
3 Duress
1 Shattering Spree
2 Flex Spots
Is there some reason you don't have the 3 Inquisitions in the sideboard?
Replacing Echoing Truth with Chain of Vapor is +EV, I think you have to accept the vulnerability vs Chalice of the Void in order to be more cost effective against Thalia. After that, I'd consider trying 4xEmpty the Warrens in the SB since Maverick doesn't really deal well with a token barrage.Quote:
Originally Posted by lambert101
I know it's a rare occurrence, but bouncing multiple chalice/cannonist/etc has been really clutch for me. Dodging Chalice is especially vital, as most commonly it will land on X=1, and that pretty much stops you cold. If you are relying on CoV, you probably just lose.
We already have 5 slots dedicated to Thalia and Co., and I feel the current boarding plan vs that is plenty effective as is. Sometimes they just get lucky and open two of her and you kind of just have to accept it as variance, but that's about as common as ET'ing a pair of Cannonists :P
Call me a fanboy, but I'm pretty much set on Bryant's list being the most optimal.
Burning Wish for Shattering Spree is still an out to Chalice of the Void at 1, and considering how rare it is to see a Chalice of the Void compared to a "hate bear" I don't think it's worth having to pay the "value added tax" every time you're trying to bounce a Thalia, because there's a worth of difference between 2U and 1U to TES.
Chalice of the Void is a corner case scenario that's still covered by our Wish board, while Maverick is a very real threat. If Faerie Stompy makes a come back I'll eat my words, but I don't know which decks you guys are afraid of that are actually playing Chalice of the Void and pose a serious threat to TES in a 3 game match without winning the coin flip.
Echoing Turth at an SCG is just a "Monsters Under the Bed" complex.