[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

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Originally Posted by H

Honestly, I had completely forgotten Iconic Masters even existed when I had first posted, let alone was about to get spoiled.

My comment wasn't really directed at you though.

The continued non-printing of Port is really suspicious. What are they saving it for, really? It's got to be something. Perhaps we'll see a set with Port and Imperial Recruiter at some point.

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Probably the will reprint Port in Masters 25

Can someone enlighten me why the price of meddling mage has near tripled in 2 days? What did I miss?

Modern Humans.

Looks like Ancient Ziggurat spiked to $10 too.

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Originally Posted by Claymore

Looks like Ancient Ziggurat spiked to $10 too.

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Holly shit, listing mine right now.

Seems grading is getting counterfeit too [emoji23]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4115729410.jpg

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Originally Posted by jandax

Seems grading is getting counterfeit too [emoji23]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4115729410.jpg

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What am i missing? looks real

I think that's he point. :wink:

Mind adding some context jandax? Where's the photo from/how do you know it's fake? That kind of stuff.

Was browsing an auction site and came across that listing, from a phone screen it looks like brown packing tape over a toploader. I snickered and chortled and posted it here disguised as a joke with the hopes someone would enlighten us as to what it really is. Just looked ridiculous when you are used to seeing graded things locked up like so:


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Take it easy,
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Timetwisters are almost bought out at MCM. There are still couple of Betas under 1000e. They are really bargains compared to Ancestral Recall and Time Walk Betas.

That clarifies things! Didn't know one could get something pre-graded, makes sense considering that there are a ton of <8 graded cards on the market yet it doesn't seem worth it to do if it's not a 8.5 or better


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Originally Posted by raudo

Timetwisters are almost bought out at MCM. There are still couple of Betas under 1000e. They are really bargains compared to Ancestral Recall and Time Walk Betas.

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What happened to make Timetwister increase so much?

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Originally Posted by ScottW

What happened to make Timetwister increase so much?

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I think raudo explained it as he mentioned it:

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Originally Posted by raudo

They are really bargains compared to Ancestral Recall and Time Walk Betas.

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That is just my educated guess though.

All the crazy movement on RL and old-school stuff appears to be 'the norm' now based on the inactivity of this thread... :rolleyes:

I don't think so. Have you seen how much an Unlimited Twister is?

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Originally Posted by ScottW

I don't think so. Have you seen how much an Unlimited Twister is?

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I guess it's worth clarifying what you're asking!
You quoted raudo's comment from a month ago, but you appear to be inquiring about a spike to Unlimited Timetwisters from 11/30. Is that accurate?

If that is the case, I assure you the $5,000 price tag is not going to stick. I suspect speculators are moving on the Unlimited copies now. Based on the graphs in MtG Stocks, it appears Alpha copy's floor has long since settled, while Beta's is still finding itself (Beta is showing as more valuable than Alpha, which is unusual and to me an indicator that Beta's price is still recovering from a buyout). If Unlimited is twice as high as Beta, then my guess is that a buyout *JUST* happened, and the graphs support that it occurred 5 days ago.

That's what makes the most sense to me, unless there's suddenly a new format that only uses Unlimited cards and Timetwister is just the first to spike. :wink:

There are still UNL Twisters at MCM thirteen copies under 1000e including near mint ones. If you need one I suggest to go there fast. :)

For the topic, I have been waiting Erhnam Djinns and Ifh-Biff Efreets to come down from the spike but it looks like they are never coming back.

Just bough a playset of UL Birds of Paradises as they are still cheap and useful in Old School :cool:

Some comments on reddit seemed to say that Timetwisters were bought out with black friday deals, so one maniac is trying to force the price up after the market was bought out.


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Supposedly, foil Unstable basics are Masterpiece rarity (1 in 3-4 boxes), so their pre-order price of about $20 is spiked to $50-75. Source being a source of Ben Belweiss or whatever of SCG.

Timetwister is a weird buyout, since its barely vintage playable, and thats 50% of the formats it is played in

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Originally Posted by rlesko

Timetwister is a weird buyout, since its barely vintage playable, and thats 50% of the formats it is played in

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Only P9 that's Commander playable.

legal or playable?

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Originally Posted by rlesko

Timetwister is a weird buyout, since its barely vintage playable, and thats 50% of the formats it is played in

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93/94 is becoming more and more popular

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Originally Posted by raudo

93/94 is becoming more and more popular

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No doubt. My thought was that pretty much all the other power is more powerful and translates over to vintage better (if you ever wanted that sort of thing). Not to mention theres a red timetwister. Recall seems like a much better buy as well as black lotus.

In 93/94 there are no FoW. So you can take your broken stuff back from the graveyard, draw seven, play moxes and get the loop rolling. In some cases 93/94 Twister is even the best card from p9 imo.

Anyone noticed the Rishadan XXXX foils from Mercadian Masques going mental?

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Originally Posted by raudo

In 93/94 there are no FoW. So you can take your broken stuff back from the graveyard, draw seven, play moxes and get the loop rolling. In some cases 93/94 Twister is even the best card from p9 imo.

Anyone noticed the Rishadan XXXX foils from Mercadian Masques going mental?

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Sorry, let me clarify.

Wasn't saying the card is not much better in 93/94 than other formats it is legal.

However, my point was that there are power cards that are legal in 93/94 that also have more relevance outside of 93/94, such as Ancestral Recall

So what is the situation with silver border cards now legal in EDH? Any buyouts?
Blacker Lotus not yet spiked, I wonder why?

It’s only legal for a month and a half.

In my honest opinion I think this indicates that some day they will be legal in some format. So maybe I tank some in just in case..

Some cards did spike, like Jack in the Mox and Frankie Peanuts.

Blacker Lotus "requires" you to tear it into pieces, so maybe that's why it didn't necessarily move.

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Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew

the $5,000 price tag is not going to stick

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Unlimited Timetwisters finally dropped below Alpha and Beta copies. Although Beta copies still seem to be valued higher than Alpha, which is very odd and unlikely to be a permanent thing.

Bazaar appears to be finding a new average value. It has spiked and dropped a few times but is settling at a few hundred dollars more than previously.

Arabian Serendib Efreets are currently quite cheap compared to other Arabian Night cards. They are as 4 off in lions share of 93/94 best decks. When the carbage like Old Man of the Sea spiked Efreets stayed still. I wonder for how long?

City of Brass is another 4 off card in the Deck and others. You can get lp condition under 100e currently.

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Originally Posted by raudo

Arabian Serendib Efreets are currently quite cheap compared to other Arabian Night cards. They are as 4 off in lions share of 93/94 best decks. When the carbage like Old Man of the Sea spiked Efreets stayed still. I wonder for how long?

City of Brass is another 4 off card in the Deck and others. You can get lp condition under 100e currently.

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Well, City of Brass is an Uncommon, it makes sense that their price is lower than Serendib's.
Also, Old Man of the Sea has never been reprinted, but Serendib Efreet is in many editions that are playable in most OldSchool communities.

The difference between U2 and U3 is not that much in AN. There exists about 20k of each U2 and 30k each U3. If the price rises are more due to 93/94 than reserve list (which I presume) expect the Serendibs and Cities rise slowly but surely.

Old Man is an unplayable piece of garbage no matter the format (I'm guessing including in 93/94) that will set you back ~150 $/€.

City and Serendib are perfectly playable cards that will set you back ~200 $/€ for an AN copy, and a few cents to a couple bucks for a recent edition.

Yea, most people don't play swedish rules. And there exists FBB And FWB of Efreet, so you can get the proper artwork rather easily. Renaissance City of Brass exists as well

I wonder if there exists any old school player who doesn't want to pimp his deck, playing swedish rules or not.. :)

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Originally Posted by raudo

I wonder if there exists any old school player who doesn't want to pimp his deck, playing swedish rules or not.. :)

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All my duals are FBB; I don't play white border cards so no Revised and no Unlimited, and Beta duals are too expensive for me nowadays to upgrade 24 of them. So I have FBB efreets as I'll never play Swedish rules.

Academy Rectors, Time Spirals and Yawgmoth's Wills have doubled.

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Originally Posted by raudo

I wonder if there exists any old school player who doesn't want to pimp his deck, playing swedish rules or not.. :)

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My personal deck building guideline is that when a card exists in UNL then I don't care about using REV as they both have white borders. When it comes to my opponent's I don't care what versions they use just enjoy the game.

Anyone know a reason Strip Mine (Tower) is on it's second spike? (MtGStocks has it sitting at $387.47 right now... :really: