Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
It looks to me like Thalia is going to hurt you a lot more than help you. If you're expecting Maverick, then Thalia is definitely going to work for them more than you. It's only saving grace would be killing other Thalias from your opponent. I'd play Bitterblossom in her spot.
Edit - I'd also switch the Elspeth for a second Sorin and the Darkblast for a second Top.
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
@Slaughtercult:
I'd agree with igri that this just isn't the deck for Thalia. I'd probably switch her out for some mother of runes (mothers of runes?) or Bitterblossoms.
Your deck seems kinda slow and top heavy, what with the planeswalkers, lingering souls and equipment, and no moxen. That's not necessarily a problem, if you don't expect a lot of fast combo. However, I would up the number of mana sources a bit. I played a somewhat similar list at the unofficial danish legacy masters this last saturday (89 players; I went 5-2, for 11th place. Report coming up sometime), playing 21 lands and 3 chrome moxen, and that was fine. If you don't like moxen, I'd go up to 23, maybe even 24 lands. Also, your mana would probably be better with + 4 fetches, - 1 swamp, -3 plains. This makes it much easier to cast early hymn.
If you think you will see lots of stoneforge mystics, Cabal Therapy is improved significantly, since you often get a free hit that way. You could cut some or all of the Inquisitions for therapy. It depends, though. If you are new to legacy, inquisition is easier to play than therapy.
I played 2 Vindicate main, and 2 SB, and I liked them a lot. Having answers to any kind of permanent is awesome in a format like legacy. At least cut the oblivion ring for a vindicate, it is just plain better a lot of the time. Yes, there is Emrakul, but that isn't going to matter very often.
I'm not sure why people want warmth over circle of protection: red. Yes, cop:r requires mana, and can be shut down by pithing needle or phyrexian revoker, but warmth is shut down by sulfuric vortex, which is played a lot more, imo, and the burn player can still possibly get there with creatures, 4-damage spells and random stuff.
Whatever you end up with, good luck!
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
Hey guys,
I've posted a deck in the N&D forum that I'd love to get some feedback on:
CLICKY
I understand that it's not very Deadguyish, but this archetype seems to have considerably developed in the direction of my take on BW.
Any crits are greatly appreciated (it'd probably make sense to post directly into my thread as to not derail into an off-topic discussion here).
Cheers!
klau[S]
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
after some testing last night, i revised my list and am happy with it.
4 Dark Confidant
4 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
3 Liliana of the Veil
1 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
1 Batterskull
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Lingering Souls
2 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
4 Swords to Plowshares
1 Umezawa's Jitte
3 Zealous Persecution
1 Arid Mesa
1 Bloodstained Mire
4 Marsh Flats
4 Plains
4 Scrubland
5 Swamp
4 Wasteland
i wanna add red to the board for things like pyroblast, would the splash be worth it? Playing one less plains and one less swamp and adding a badlands and a plateau. On paper it looks good but makes me more susceptible to wasteland.
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
I wouldnt add red to the deck tbh. TBh i think you are playing to many basic plains in your deck :P A double plain draw would be almost a force mull if there is no other lands in that hand.
If Dread of Night and night of souls betrayal starts to catch on in more decks the vindicates is gonna get into my board again. Thought 3 mana is alot but can catch everything. Zealous Persecution also means you dont have to sword the little guys from example Maverick but rather persecute the small guys away.
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
Hey guys this is my current list:
4 Scrubland
4 Wasteland
1 Arid Mesa
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Fetid Heath
4 Marsh Flats
2 Plains
2 Swamp
3 Chrome Mox
4 Dark Confidant
4 Stoneforge Mystic
2 Mirran Crusader
3 Tidehollow Sculler
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Vindicate
2 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Thoughtseize
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Bitterblossom
2 Liliana of the Veil
2 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Batterskull
1 Sword of Feast an Famine
1 Umezawa's Jitte
I'm going to take part in a local event with a basically maverick-meta. any suggestions about improvement?
I thought about testing lingering-souls and zealous persecution, would you reccomend replacing the mirran crusader / tidehollow sculler with lingering souls particularly in a g/w-matchup? I couldn't test it so far.
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
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Originally Posted by
rifobob
Hey guys this is my current list:
4 Scrubland
4 Wasteland
1 Arid Mesa
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Fetid Heath
4 Marsh Flats
2 Plains
2 Swamp
3 Chrome Mox
4 Dark Confidant
4 Stoneforge Mystic
2 Mirran Crusader
3 Tidehollow Sculler
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Vindicate
2 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Thoughtseize
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Bitterblossom
2 Liliana of the Veil
2 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Batterskull
1 Sword of Feast an Famine
1 Umezawa's Jitte
I'm going to take part in a local event with a basically maverick-meta. any suggestions about improvement?
I thought about testing lingering-souls and zealous persecution, would you reccomend replacing the mirran crusader / tidehollow sculler with lingering souls particularly in a g/w-matchup? I couldn't test it so far.
Why would you cut Mirran Crusader when he has protection from half of the Maverick list? Zealous Persection is looking really good right now and Tidehollow Sculler isn't standing out in this list when you already have 8 dedicated discard spells.
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
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Originally Posted by
rifobob
Hey guys this is my current list:
4 Scrubland
4 Wasteland
1 Arid Mesa
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Fetid Heath
4 Marsh Flats
2 Plains
2 Swamp
3 Chrome Mox
4 Dark Confidant
4 Stoneforge Mystic
2 Mirran Crusader
3 Tidehollow Sculler
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Vindicate
2 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Thoughtseize
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Bitterblossom
2 Liliana of the Veil
2 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Batterskull
1 Sword of Feast an Famine
1 Umezawa's Jitte
I'm going to take part in a local event with a basically maverick-meta. any suggestions about improvement?
I thought about testing lingering-souls and zealous persecution, would you reccomend replacing the mirran crusader / tidehollow sculler with lingering souls particularly in a g/w-matchup? I couldn't test it so far.
I would reconsider those four bitterblossoms. With fetches, Bob and two thoughtseize, the bitterblossoms may be a bit too much life loss. especially four of them. Personally, I would play the fourth lingering souls before the first bitterblossom.
You probably also want a second jitte before the first batterskull, since matches between decks with lots of creatures and stoneforge mystic often degenerate into fighting over Jitte.
Sideboard, Perish/Nature's Ruin are obviously some good.
Finally, when you do get to play, try to keep an eye on how the mana base works for you. You might want a couple extra lands.
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
Perish is better then Nature's Ruin thought. Perish beats thrun while nature's Ruin doesnt :P
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
Hi there!
I started to follow the forum a few weeks ago, before Brazilian Legacy Season start, and now I feel I can share some useful information, begining with a report from yesterday's Legacy Qualifier.
After a disappointing 3-4 at past LQ with Maverick, I looked after another deck which could beat both Maverick and UW Blade (currently the most played decks here). Then I saw these new BW lists with hand-disruption + strong board presence (in form of Blossoms/Lingering Souls + equipment) and I decided to give it a shot.
With only 1 week for testing, I aimed to beat those decks, and after some successful results and tweaks, I registered this on Sunday (if you want to skip the report, at the end I made some comments):
4 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Squadron Hawk
3 Dark Confidant
4 Cabal Therapy
2 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Bitterblossom
3 Lingering Souls
4 Swords to Plowshares
2 Vindicate
2 Sensei's Divining Top
3 Mox Chrome
3 Liliana of the Veil
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
4 Scrubland
4 Marsh Flats
2 Bloodstained Mire
2 Fetid Heath
3 Swamp
1 Plains
4 Wasteland
SB:
2 Perish
3 Zealous Persecution
2 Disenchant
3 Hymn to Tourach
2 Leyline of the Void
2 Surgical Extraction
1 Diabolic Edict
(I'm sorry, but I won't describe my SBing. Due to lack of testing, I tried lots of configs, and some of them surely were wrong)
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Small tournament, 46 players, 6 rounds. The two finalists qualifies to Legacy Nationals.
R1 - Burn (2x1) 1-0-0
G1: Won the roll. I started strong with Land+Mox, STM to SoFI (I put him on combo on how he analyzed on his mull at 5). He goes mountain, bolt on STM, showing he was on Burn. I hit a PoP with a Therapy and I see a weak hand, so I drop my Bob without any concern. He couldn't keep the pressure and Bob+SoFI finished the job.
G2: He leads with T1 burn in face, T2 Pyrostatic Pillar. I cast STM into Jitte, which he burns while burning my face again. I cast Lingering Souls to a dangerous 6 life, to his 12. He drops another Pillar. I manage to get him on 6 life, to see him topdeck Chain Lightning. Fireblast burned me skipping the pillars.
G3: I hit Goblin Guide from Therapy, seeing a one-lander and lots of heavily-costed burn. I dropped a Hawk. He miss the land drop, I drop another Hawk, hit, and Therapy his 2x Rift Bolt I saw before. I think he burned me once, but then I finish stripping his hand with Therapy on his 2x Fireblast + Hymn to Tourach and the hawks do the trick.
R2 - GW Maverick (1x0) 2-0-0
G1: Boy, this was a long game. There was a moment where he had a Thalia+SoFI in it, a Noble and a Ooze (no creatures in graveyards), and I'm with STM, some spirit tokens, and a SoLS in my hand. I messed a whole turn by dropping Mox+Top forgetting (both me and opp) about Thalia's ability. The judges corrected the game state and I lost a turn because of it. I clog the board with hawks and spirits, and hit hard while gaining some life from the SoLS and chump-blocking his beaters. He complains about his sword not being SoLS.
G2: I keep a sketchy hand with 3 STP, 1 Lily and no creatures. I STP his accel, then he Nobles and skips his land drop, I STP it again. He finds the land and goes with Mom (I drew a Zealous the turn before). I dropped Blossom. He dropped Thalia. I wrath him with Zealous, and started the beating. Some turns later, my board was full of flyers and he has only a few beaters. Time was called, and we couldn't kill each other.
R3 - GW Maverick (2x0) 3-0-0
G1: He goes for turn 2 Noble, I drop Blossom, he goes with Reliquary. I make a Lily, we discard, and miss a Therapy, seeing an Elspeth. He drops Elspeth, which makes a soldier, and I chump-block his Knight trying to kill Lily. I Vindicate Elspeth. I keep my Lily alive with my faeries, and make some Hawks to clog the board. After he drawing some blanks, my board is very superior to his, and he concedes.
G2: This wasn't very much of a game, as he mulls to five, and I have multiple removals to his creatures.
R4 - NO RUG (2x0) 4-0-0
G1: This one I can't remember, too. I put him on Canadian, because of his lands. But until turn 3 he hadn't done much. I did some flyers, he counters a STM I guess, he slams a huge Goyf. I went to the clog+chump plan and did some spirits. He attacks, and he NO for the big hydra. Fortunately I had a Lily which saved the day.
G2: This one was not close too, as I Perished 2 Goyfs and he couldn't keep up with my pressure.
R5 - GW Maverick (2x1) 5-0-0
I was looking for IDing the next two rounds, but this opp had to win only one match to qualify to Wizards WCQ. Damn shitty ranking.
G1: I keep a sketchy hand. He accels his first turn. I drop a Marsh Flats and didn't crack it. When he makes "land go", I realize my mistake. I attempt to crack the fetch, and he lands Aven Mindcensor. I didn't find the land, and missed a Therapy to see 2x Ooze in his hand. He drops one of them, I miss a land drop. He drops the other one while beating me hard. I find a filter land, but it's too late to recover.
G2: Pretty much the same as R3,G1: Lily+clogged board seals the game. I go ult with Lily, separating Elspeth (with 12 counters, but no emblem)+Reliquary in one pile, and 4 lands in another one. He choses to keep his business, and I perish his Knight to win.
G3: He goes for T1 Mom, T2 Thalia. If I recall correctly T3 he missed a land drop, for me wrathing his board with Zealous. He drops Sylvan Library and I start to make some spirits. He goes for Witness + fetch
to refresh his library top, and another Mom. I have another Zealous, and swing for a good amount of
damage. He drops Reliquary + Maze of Ith to slow me down, but I drop a pair of Hawks to go for lethal
next turn. He couldn't find the removal for the flyers and I won in the last of 5 turns.
R6 - Goblins (ID) 5-0-1, 1st in Swiss.
I'm not sure about Goblins matchup, but I guess it's unfavorable, as neither hand-disrupt nor clogged board works against them.
Quarterfinals - Yet another GW Maverick (2x1) 6-0-1
G1: I go for T1 STM for Jitte, and he accels. I drop Hawk, and he drops his Jitte. I legend Jitte, only to see him dropping his second one and a Mom. I took a hit with Jitte, it kills some dudes of mine, but using Top I find a Vindicate for it. He drops Scryb Ranger, another Mom, and even with a SoFI token I couldn't profitably attack (I punted this game by forgetting about this, and attacking through his protected Scryb). He drops two giant Knights, and they started the beating through my tokens with Mom's help.
G2: I resolved an early Blossom, and it generates 2 faeries until he breaks it with Qasali. I dropped the second one I topdecked. He drops STM for Batterskull, which I didn't had any answer. He beats once with the germ, but he taps for a Knight and I topdeck Disenchant. Lily joins the party. He tries to kill Lily, but I manage to mantain her on board for disrupting his hand. After finding a Perish with the Top, I let him finish Lily, I perish his board and we're up to G3.
G3: I started with T1 Hawk (Mox), and he didn't have a T1 play. I make a fresh-drawn Blossom and started the beating. He lands T2 Sylvan Library, which I Vindicate only to see him casting another one. He lands Qasali, and curiously breaks the mox (instead of Blossom), leaving me with no white source and STP+Zealous in hand. He draws an extra-card with Sylvan Library, finding STM and grabbing Jitte, which for I had no answer. He connects Jitte once with a Reliquary, but after him going nuts with Sylvan Library+Surgical Extraction in my Wastelands, he was very low on life. I attacked for lethal, he tried to gain life with Jitte, but I had the Zealous Persecution to seal the game.
Semi-Finals - The same NO RUG (0x2) 6-1-1
This one was terrible.
G1: On the draw, I keep a bad one-lander with IoK + 2 Therapy. He casts a Noble, FoWs my IoK, and follows with Sylvan Library. I miss Therapy (named NO, should've named Goyf), and he lands Goyf, which beats me to death as I never drew another land.
G2: I keep a hand w/o disrupt, and he smashes me with CA provided by Sylvan. He also Dazes one SoLS, kepting me from equipping and gaining some life which would give me an extra turn against big hydra.
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Despite the bitter taste of not qualifying, I was pretty happy with the deck's performance. Here are
some considerations I'd like to share:
- Squadron Hawk were amazing all day. They aren't as expensive as Lingering Souls, nor slow as Blossoms. I loved the 4 Hawk-3 Blossom-3 Souls config, and I never felt I lacked creatures. Also, I was skeptical in Liliana at first, but she was nuts every time I had them. I can't consider running less than 3.
- Jitte was great all the time. I'll try to fit another one, at least in SB. I wasn't impressed with the swords, though.
- This list simply wrecks Maverick. Yes it's true, despite some of my opps disagreeing with me. I wouldn't mind facing them every time. On the other hand, the deck folds to a resolved Jitte, and if 2 of my opps had SoLS instead of SoFI, I'd be in great trouble. I guess the deck needs more than Disenchant/Vindicate to deal with those equips. I will test Manriki-Gusari, not sure if it's good or just too cute.
- The SB needs tweaking, but as I hadn't tested that much against other archetypes, I don't know what I can shave/put. Will test more against other archetypes to see if there's any other problem matchups.
I'll be glad to hear any comments/suggestions/criticisms.
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
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Originally Posted by
barrozo
- Squadron Hawk were amazing all day. They aren't as expensive as Lingering Souls, nor slow as Blossoms. I loved the 4 Hawk-3 Blossom-3 Souls config, and I never felt I lacked creatures. Also, I was skeptical in Liliana at first, but she was nuts every time I had them. I can't consider running less than 3.
This isn't really true. If you're considering what you pay per 1/1 spirit, even on the first cast, it's less than the 2 mana Hawk costs. Plus, one Souls is equal to four Hawks. I'd rather pay five over two turns than eight over three. You should play four Souls before any Hawk.
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Originally Posted by
barrozo
- Jitte was great all the time. I'll try to fit another one, at least in SB. I wasn't impressed with the swords, though.
Definitely agree with this. I'm always happier to have Jitte than Sword of XY. And a single Jitte doesn't cut it anymore. There are way too many SFM in the format and the first one gets legend ruled quite often in my experience.
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
Do like your list, thought not a fan of the Squadron Hawk, sword of Light and Shadow nor the tops or just having 3 bobs or lack of hymn / Batterskull.
Think Zealous Persecution should probly be maindecked atm.
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
I agree Sq Hawk aren’t a must-have in any list, but I’ll continue with them while Maverick is the most played deck. If I were to cut them, probably I’ll go with Bob, Lingering Souls, Blossom and Vindicate/IoK in their slots.
As for Hymn to Tourach, I’d rather have them in SB against combo. I don’t feel the need to strip opp’s whole hand in every matchup, when taking just the right cards will already disrupt their plan. That’s where Therapy shines.
Also, I didn’t like Batterskull in my tests. It was more clunky than good. The deck already provides lifegain in form of Jitte and “infinite” body in form of token generators. And a 4/4 ground beater is not that exciting in a world full of equipped germs, goyfs and over-sized knights.
I’m considering to maindeck Zealous Persecution, but I don’t know what to cut. Maybe Vindicate?
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
Myself i moved my vindicate to the board. Havent been living til you do some major Zealous Persecution blowouts :D
Lingering Souls, Bitterblossom, Elspeth, liliana and sorin has been some of the strongest cards for me.
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
Hi !
This the list i play for the moment with good results (5/47 last week) :
5 Swamp
4 Plains
4 Marsh flats
2 Wasteland
3 Scrubland
1 Arid mesa
3 Chrome mox
2 Umezawa jitte
1 Batterskull
4 Stoneforge mystic
4 Dark confidant
4 Bitterblossom
4 Inquisition of kozilek
4 Cabal therapy
4 Lingering souls
4 Vindicate
3 Zealous persecution
4 Sword to plowshare
SB :
3 Timely reinforcements
3 Perish
1 Manriki gusari
3 duress
1 Tormod's crypt
1 relic of progenitus
3 surgical extraction
Explanations :
Only 2 wasteland -> Mana denial is not the main objective and i prefer a solid mana base
Batterskull -> I think to remove it but it's a nut's vs Dredge
2 Umezawa jitte -> We want life all the time and it's a good card vs many Tiers 1
4 Vindicate -> This card is very important in many matchup, we want it all the time
Cabal + Inquisition -> Cards are synergistic. With it we know the hand of opponent and cabal is very good with bitterblossom
Zealous persecution -> A nut's vs maverik and RUG Delver, and sometimes an alpha strike with tokens
Sideboard :
3 Timely reinforcements -> Vs delver.deck ( a bad matchup for the deck), burn
3 Perish -> Vs Bant, maverik ...
1 Manriki gusari -> Vs stoneBlade
3 duress -> Vs combo
1 Tormod's crypt -> Vs combo, dredge reanimator ...
1 relic of progenitus -> Vs combo, dredge reanimator ...
3 surgical extraction -> Vs combo, dredge reanimator ...
I m thinking to test Liliana but i m not convinced for the moment :tongue:
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
HI DEADGUYS!!!!
I'm playing deadguy ale / bw stoneblade for a long time, and this is the list i'm currently run:
4x mother of runes
4x dark confidant
4x stoneforge mystic
2x mirran crusader
4x hymn to tourach
2x inquisition of kozilek
2x thoughtseize
4x swords to plowshares
4x vindicate
3x bitterblossom
2x sensei's divingin top
1x batterskell
1x umezawa's jitte
1x sword of fire and ice
4x marsh flats
4x polluted delta
4x scrubland
3x swamp
1x plains
1x karakas
4x wasteland
1x urborg, tomb of yawgmoth
SB:
2x perish
1x diabolic edict
1x disenchant
2x enlightened tutor
1x pithing needle
1x cop: red
2x duress
2x surgical extraction
1x extirpate
1x grafdigger's cage
1x ethersworn canonist
I know many people recently build this deck around lingering souls, liliana of the veil and cabal therapy, but simply, i don't like cabal therapy being conditional. It's my personal playstile - i like thoughtseize and IOK better. Lingering souls is realy Ok card, but mirran crusader with moms in play and loads of equipment simply wins you game. As we all know, deck has massive card advantage and card quality (hymn, bob, blossom, sfm, SDT, SOFI), and almost everything you play is strong play, and blue opponent must answer EVERY card you play or he's in trouble. Mother of runes shuts down their removal, or they must spend two cards to kill your creature, they must answer on your bob, they must answer to stoneforge mystic or she will cheat batterskull in play, and for the end bitterblossom kills them. I really don't want to explaining vindicate, wasteland, hymns and other discard against that matchup. Also, deck is nightmare to maverick players, especialy against postboard (perish, disenchant), and even preboard resolved mother of runes or mirran crusader can win you game alongside with vindicates against equipments. I DON'T want to say that maverick is easy matchup - it isn't, but we have mainboard answers on their threats. The real PROBLEM Is Thalia. The worst matchups are against hyper fast combo and aggro decks, but hyper aggro is very underplayed recently. Sword of fire and ice and few slots in sideboard are meta choice, so feel free to discuss my deck ;)
I would appreciate any advise and comment
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
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Originally Posted by
wizard_of_gore
HI DEADGUYS!!!!
I'm playing deadguy ale / bw stoneblade for a long time, and this is the list i'm currently run:
4x mother of runes
4x dark confidant
4x stoneforge mystic
2x mirran crusader
4x hymn to tourach
2x inquisition of kozilek
2x thoughtseize
4x swords to plowshares
4x vindicate
3x bitterblossom
2x sensei's divingin top
1x batterskell
1x umezawa's jitte
1x sword of fire and ice
4x marsh flats
4x polluted delta
4x scrubland
3x swamp
1x plains
1x karakas
4x wasteland
1x urborg, tomb of yawgmoth
SB:
2x perish
1x diabolic edict
1x disenchant
2x enlightened tutor
1x pithing needle
1x cop: red
2x duress
2x surgical extraction
1x extirpate
1x grafdigger's cage
1x ethersworn canonist
I don't think you have enough creature hate. 4 Vindicate (I love Vindicate) is 1 too many. 3 is the right number imo - #4 should be replaced by something like Ghastly Demise.
SB Duresses are far better off as Canonists #2/3, since your MD is already rather well equipped against Control - those slots will be used as Combo hate.
Also what's your plan against swarm Aggro - I think the SB should adress that issue. I'd sneak in 1-2 Engineered Plague - also fitting your toolbox approach.
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
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Originally Posted by
ArCoNisS
Only 2 wasteland -> Mana denial is not the main objective and i prefer a solid mana base
While it's true that we shouldn’t focus mana-denial as a strategy, Wasteland used wisely can gain a valuable tempo. With your list not having double-colored mana requirements besides Zealous, your mana base should be quite steady. I don’t see a reason to not run 4 Wasteland.
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Originally Posted by
wizard_of_gore
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I like Mirran Crusader, but only two are enough? And have you considered Elspeth? Jumping a Crusader must be the nuts. Also, how is your mana-base working for you, since you have to cast WW and BB? I’d consider a Fetid Heath.
Re: [Deck] Deadguy Ale (B/w Confidant)
Mana base is really stable, even with double WW. Double white is not realy we want to force - it's only for crusader, and i rarely fetch for scrubland in early game. I considered elspeth for sure, but i don't know what to take out?
@klaus
As i mentioned, hyper aggro deck is problem for that deck, but against midrange creature decks i never had problems with dealing with them. Duress in sb is also for combo matchup alongside with canonist and two enlightened tutors to fetch them. I tested against TES, ANT and similar storm decks, and postboard i really don't have problems against combo in general with basic discard statement i already have in mainboard (+ sb). Of corse, it's not so favorable, but i would say it's 50:50, maybe even more for us, if we are speaking about slower combo deck.
