[Deck] Eva Green - B/g suicide

I played at the mentioned tournament too and became 2end with Nqgr. The Eva Green player was my friend and we decided to play deed over plague because in our meta are nearly no goblins (last week i played against goblins after about 7 month) but many Dragon Stompy decks. Against this deck deed is such an epic tool of destruction. And against dredge as mentioned deed is much better as plague because it kills there token. And against NQG the deed is good too, it destroys all of their important things like balance or goose which can't be killed by snuff out

Has anyone tested eva green VS:

- angel stax?
- aggro loam?
- dragon stompy?
- dreadstill?

today, i played a tourney(the dutch master qualifier, thats a big event here, were you get many cash:laugh: )

here's a small tourney report:

1:

ivo koolhaas - dragon stompy

game 1, i keep a reasonable hand but he managed to get enough beatz under all my threats to kill me fast enough.

game 2, i had a good hand but not many threats so he beated me very fast below zero.

2 - fahad saleh - muc

game 1, he gets a game loss because he didnt wrote his whole sideboard.

game 2, i had to mulligan to 5 and he had too many counters and won the game.

game 3, i had enough threats to lay down my choke safely, and beated him down with a stalker.

3 - veerle - burn

i didnt expect i would win the tourney when i saw this match, becuase i have never won before against burn.

game 1, i had enough discard and a early stalker to beat her before she burned me out.

game 2, she had to mull to 5 and i beated her very quick again.

i was very happy with this, because burn i one of the baddest mu's of the deck.

4 - maarten euser - ugr tempo thresh

game 1, this was a very thight game but i managed to destroy enough lands and beated the crap out of him with a goyf and a shade.

game 2, this was also a very exciting game but i maded a mistake with pumping nantuko shade and the stack, so he could kill the shade with a fire/ ice. and he beated me down with gooses and goyfs.

game 3, this was the best game i had on the tourney, i had very early a wasteland on tropical island and extirpated the tropical island. he had already a goyf on the table but i had snuff out.

5 - kasper euser(his bigger brother) - uwb landstill

game 1, i had enough threats and a nantuko shade fix the job.

game2, this game is almost the same as game one but this time with a tombstalker:laugh:

now, i was 4-1 and definitely in the top 4(for some reason we didnt played a top 8)

the top 4 consited out of,

1 rg(b) aggro loam
1 spanish inquisition
1 dragon stompy
1 me, with eva green

top 4 1st round:

again, against ivo koolhaas with dragon stompy

game 1, i was very good with all my threats and tombstalkers etc. he manged somehow to get a dragon and enough many for the insane hellbent shit.

game 2, he had to mull to 5 and i disrupted him so hard he couldnt win.

game 3, i got broken with a 6/7 goyf and a seal of primordium on jitte:laugh:

finals against roel jans with aggro loam:

game 1, i was mana screwd for a few turns but tombstalker all the way:p lol, and snuff out 2x afcourse.

game 2, this was very exciting, but he had very nuts upkeeps with his crusher so he beated me to the death. if i had topdecked one single chump blocked i would win this game with my stalker.

game 3, i got a first turn hymn and hippie and i getted a second hippie and a shade to beat him to the death.

now im very happy, because this is the first tourney i win and its a very big price i think(50 euro for every match i win and a 1st price is 500 bucks. for the dutch masters)

the decklist i used was the regular list with only extirpate instead of leyline, seriously, this card is so much better then leyline. you people must really try this on a tourney. it gives you so much more options then leyline, and the mu's leyline is good, extirpate is good too.


greetz, bas

Nice work, dude! How many people were at this tournament out of curiosity?

I have been on the fence about leyline vs. extirpate. I'm not sold about extirpate being better but it is really funny to extirpate a trop when it's your opponent's only green source *fog horn*.

Anyway, congratulations on the finish, I'm glad you picked up the deck.

there were not that many people on the tourney, between the 20 and 30 people, but the meta was really competative and there was very much blue based control/ aggro control. but we kicked them all out of the top4/8(there wasnt even one in the t8 i thought).

about extirpate, its just my favoritest sideboard card atm, because it helped me so f*cking many games its not even funny anymore. i think leyline is just too random and if not in your opening hand its really a worse topdeck. you probably tested extirpate too but if you havent done this already, just try it out on a tourney with a lot of loam and blue based aggro control. it really is insane against it.

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Originally Posted by electrolyze

game 3, i got broken with a 6/7 goyf and a seal of primordium on jitte:laugh:

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So how did you find Seal? I bet it was gold in this game! Glad to see the deck is still as hot as ever!

i think seal is really too good not to play in this deck. he solves just so insane many problems and in the minimalest(or something) case, he pumps your goyfs, wich is really good too.

and yes, in the dragonstompy mu, goyf and seal shine as hell. goyf becomes so quick insanely big in her and seal only speed this up for you+the importantest, it kills jitte, chalice, trinisphere(if stilll played, the guy i was playing wasnt playing it but that doesnt matter right now), mox(great when you go on the land destruction tour, powder keg, sword of fire and ice, blood moon, i think this was it:laugh:

it helped me against landstill, counterbalance thresh, enchantress, loam, dragonstompy and infinite other decks.

just started looking into this deck, I was a huge lover of red death and mono black sui.

Has the decklist really not changed since the first post 4 months ago?

I suppose it hasn't. I believe the maindeck is pretty much optimized. I feel that the board is the biggest variable, although I think that the sideboard on the first page covers most of your bases.

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Originally Posted by Nihil Credo

Kikkofrio has been testing a blue splash for Daze we've brainstormed about

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How's this been working out? Seems like a pretty cool out-of-the-box idea.

It seems there has been little debate between Vendetta and Snuff Out. Has anybody tried them both and can tell me their impressions?

I would really choose snuff over vendetta, first of all, its still a nonblack creature. Second, your main killable(not right english right?) is goyf, wich is probably 4/5. 3th, I have been in tons of situations the free cost for snuff was way better. In the final of the tournament i won it even was a win/lose situation. I had a shade and 2 hippies and he a tapped and untapped goyf. I had 2 mana open and he was on 8. i really needed the removal to be free.

Its uncounterable by counterbalance most of the time too and i think you will lose more life from vendetta than from snuff because you kill things like, goyf, angel, gathan raiders, slogger, terravore, crusher, etc.

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Originally Posted by electrolyze

I would really choose snuff over vendetta

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You made a strong case. How often do you hardcast Snuff Out(pay the 4 mana)?

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Originally Posted by revenge_inc

It seems there has been little debate between Vendetta and Snuff Out. Has anybody tried them both and can tell me their impressions?

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There sure has been li'l debate about thos 2 cards : Snuff Out is clearly superior to Vendetta.

No kidding. How could a 0cc, "Un-Counterbalance-able" removal for opponent's Goyfs be inferior to a 1cc "Counterbalance-able" in a deck who don't run Confidants in a Metagame where Thresh could be waiting for you around the corner ?!

And the same could be said with Chalice of the Void and decks like DragonStompy (And where a "turn0" Magus with a Bayou+Fetch hand from Eva Green could be problematic...)...

About hardcasting it, i only hardcast it if i can and there are no negative results for me and my creatures(like when you have no many anymore for shade or something and he has burn i wouldnt do it) when i hardcasted it.

Or when i am at a low life total, its just a quest of practicing with it against many decks and you will see when you have to do it and when not.

During the design phase of this deck, nitewolf9 and I talked about Vendetta and Snuff Out. I thought Vendetta might be better, but with the same arguments that have been made here nitewolf9 convinced me that Snuff Out was better. I can't be happier with Snuff Out. It costs 0 mana and that's the best reason to run it, but getting around Counterbalance, Chalice of the Void, and losing less life than Vendetta are all good reasons as well.

If I were to build the deck without Nantuko Shades, what would some replacements be? I'm a bit low on cash this month.

Anyways, this deck looks a lot like Sui Black with green for hot stuff like Goyf and Seal.

How is the Thresh (UGr, UGw, UGb) match? Stalker beats out CB+Top, but I just want to know how you guys do at beating that and if there are any tips.

I will soon try this deck out in a tournament as well (finally got hold of all the missing cards, such as goyf and fetches). I will play the list on the first post.

I would like to hear some expert advice on how to use the sideboard. More precisely, please answer these two quiestions?:

- In what Matchups do you board in Jitte, and what goes out?

- How du you board against *****? Do you board in leylines, or are you satisfied with only boarding choke? Or is it vice versa? What goes out?

Other sideboarding advices in commonly seen, competative matchups are welcome.

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Originally Posted by chokin

If I were to build the deck without Nantuko Shades, what would some replacements be? I'm a bit low on cash this month.

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I'm not really sure if there is any suitable replacement for nantuko shade, but you could try something like shriekmaw.

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Originally Posted by Henrik

- In what Matchups do you board in Jitte, and what goes out?

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Jitte is for pretty much anything with lots of burn (sligh/burn), goblins, survival, black-based aggro control (e.g. other sui decks), and generally as placeholders anywhere you would have dead/subpar cards.

Against goblins you take out 4 sinkhole and 3 seal for 3 jitte and 4 plague.
Against survival I think you cut disruption (sinkholes) for jittes and more disruption (sinkhole/3 hymns) for yard hate, at least that's an idea to try. You could also stick with just cutting seals for jittes.
Against the other decks I think you just need to figure out what the weakest links are and replace them.

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Originally Posted by Henrik

- How du you board against *****? Do you board in leylines, or are you satisfied with only boarding choke? Or is it vice versa? What goes out?

Other sideboarding advices in commonly seen, competative matchups are welcome.

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Against threshold it really depends on the build they have. If it's 4 or 5 color you probably want to keep in LD and cut seal and a single snuff out for 4 choke. Against the 3 color builds, you probably cut sinkholes for chokes, and you could also bring in jitte if you're feeling saucy. I wouldn't bring in leylines because they are too conditional. Granted, you get one in your opening 7 and it's very strong. Otherwise it's a dead topdeck, and you really can't afford to mulligan for one in this matchup.

I believe there is other sideboarding advice in this thread so I would suggest reading through it to get a feel for things. The opening post also has alot of information and you should also read the tournament report.

[QUOTE=chokin;233709]If I were to build the deck without Nantuko Shades, what would some replacements be? I'm a bit low on cash this month.

Anyways, this deck looks a lot like Sui Black with green for hot stuff like Goyf and Seal.QUOTE]

The deck IS sui black with green for goyf lol...

If you needed to run a budget critter rather than shade, you could run either Stromgald Crusaders from Coldsnap or Order of the Ebon Hand from Fallen Empires. Both are really good on their own (i maindeck Order in my version of the deck) and have protection from swords to plowshares which is HUGE in this format; Neither will run you over $2 a piece, which is always a plus.