Discard and counterspells, it make sense :)...
but how can it be faster than Show&tell, they got lotus petal and ancient tombs... many good manaboosts to go off in T1 or T2...
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Discard and counterspells, it make sense :)...
but how can it be faster than Show&tell, they got lotus petal and ancient tombs... many good manaboosts to go off in T1 or T2...
This is just because of the redundancy of the deck. Reanimator has many cards that do basically the same so it usually does not need long time cantripping into bussiness before going out.
Greetins,
Iñaki.-
Just wanted to share what happened this weekend in our local tourney...
I had the balls to face Deathrite Shaman decks, so I decided to sleeve this up:
4 Underground sea
4 polluted delta
2 misty rainforest
2 verdant catacombs
1 overgrown tomb
3 island
2 swamp
4 entomb
4 careful study
4 reanimate
3 exhume
2 show and tell
1 animate dead
2 griselbrand
1 jin gitaxias
1 sphinx of the steel wind
1 blazing archon
1 Empyrial archangel
1 elesh norn
1 tidespout tyrant
1 sheoldred, the whispering one
4 brainstorm
3 ponder
2 thoughseize
3 daze
4 force of will
Sb:
1 Inkwell leviathan
1 Iona, shield of Emeria
1 show and tell
2 echoing truth
2 submerge
3 pithing needle
2 deathmark
1 engineered explosives
2 flusterstorm
The MD is almost the same as with Alsan with 5-7 cards difference in the SB
Swiss:
Jund 2-1
G1: BS to hide entomb and reanimate from his IOK. Then both entomb grisel and reanimate on T3. My Daze met his liliana. Demon went all the way after.
G2: My deathmark meet his deathrite shaman. Then forced him to pop his tormod's. Just as I though coast was clear, he had surgical. BOOO!!!
G3: FOW for his T1 tormod's in order to bluff that I'll either entomb or Careful study. Show and tell Griselbrand on T3. Started swinging and went all the way.
Gobs 2-0
G1: His Lackey started swinging and bringing down the other gobs. Rishadan port delayed me for 1 turn, but i managed to animate dead an entombed elesh norn on G3.
G2: He plays chalice @1. Echoing truth for it then double entombed Elesh and sphinx before he plays it again. I Show and Tell Shoeldred and his gobs started dying. Brought back Elesh on my through Sheoldred on my turn to seal the deal.
Burn 2-1
G1: I mulled to 5. Went down to 9 before I was able to revive Sphinx with Animated dead and was able to lifelink once before he dropped sulfuric vortex. By then, it was too late for him.
G2: I got burned to death. Not much action on my part except for bringing back sheoldred
G3: FOWed his turn 2 relic. Went down to 11 before I entombed Iona, and exhumed the angel naming RED.
UW Rest in peace 0-2 (this guy had RIP main, energy fleld, terminus and CB)
G1: Turn 2 RIP then my SNT got countered.
G2: I was able to SNT Empyrial archangel but he brought down Energy field. He got his RIP-Helm of obedience combo 2 turns after.
5 peso 2-0(courtesy of the pilot)
He's my teamate and we agreed that he'll have a portion of whatever prize I'd win
Ended up first after 5 rounds.
Top 4:
Elves 2-0
G1: Turn 1 entomb, turn 2 reanimate
G2: He was 1 turn away from a Natural order to progen, but I was able to Careful study and reanimate elesh norn. The preator went all the way.
Finals:
UW RIP 2-1(I never expected to win, but I did)
G1: T1 CS to Reanimate Griselbrand. Swung once before he played energy field. After that, it took me to reanimated 2nd griselbrand(1st one was STP'ed) an archangel via SnT, getting around counterbalance and an exhumed Tidespout tyrant to win.
G2: I played thoughtseize then responded to his Brainstorm with daze to prevent him from hiding his cards. I nabbed his BS and proceeded to entomb the demon. To his luck, he topdecked RIP and I wasn't able to recover after.
G3: T1 entomb for Griselbrand , then T2 reanimate with FOW to protect it from his Spell pierce. Grisel started swinging for 2 turns, bringing my opponent down to 6 and played Engineered explosives for 2. He tutored detention sphere via enlightened at my EOT. He played it on his turn and I used the demon's ability to find FOW. I took 7 life 3 TIMES AND FOUND NO FOW(damn!!). Detention sphere resolved and targeted the demon. I bounced it via echoing truth at his EOT with 2 daze as protection (he has only 1 untapped island). Echoing truth resolves and griselbrand swung on my turn for the win.
It was a grinding, intense and epic(for me) battle. I'm glad I won a match where the odds are stacked up against me.
My sb is somewhat clunky. I’m looking for a better card than deathmark to combat hatebears. Will abrupt decay be a viable SB?
Lucky performance? Hmm... better lucky than good
Thanks for reading
Thx for ur report too!Quote:
Originally Posted by aljiichiban
EE is awesome for RIP+Energy field
Congrats man :). My side is right now 3 submerge, 1 Angel of despair, 1 Iona, 1 coffin purge, 1 show and tell, 1 flusterstorm, 1 Echoing truth, 2 Duress, 2 Engineered explosives, 2?.
Did you find useless, as I did, the leviathan?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alsan
I did not find use for inky in my last tourney. But I'll keep him in the Sb for the meantime since a 7/11 Island walk, trample and shroud beater is not easy to be dealt with.
I was thinking of making changes in SB:
-2 submerge, -2 deathmark, - 1 EE, + 3 Abrupt decay + 1 duress + 1 Echoing.
Then replace either island/swamp with another Overgrown tomb(I don't have Bayou). So there will be 2 B/G duals in MD that can be fetched by 4 polluted, 2 misty and 2 verdant.
Reason for the changes are:
- Abrupt decay takes care not only of hatebears but also Counterbalance, RIP, Detention sphere, energy flux.
- Our needles can have more room to name other stuff (karakas, maze of ith, sensei, Sneak attack, macabre, crypt, relic)
- will have more room for SB slots.
thoughts?
Reanimator Tendril
http://www.twitch.tv/scglive/b/363601431 starting at 8:56:40
YouTube Deck Tech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-pUigFILlE
Reanimator Tendrils
Greg Mitchell
34th Place at StarCityGames.com Legacy Open on 2/3/2013
Legacy
2 Children of Korlis
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Griselbrand
1 Island
1 Swamp
1 Marsh Flats
2 Misty Rainforest
4 Polluted Delta
2 Scalding Tarn
3 Underground Sea
2 Chrome Mox
4 Lotus Petal
4 Brainstorm
4 Dark Ritual
4 Entomb
3 Goryo's Vengeance
1 Intuition
4 Shallow Grave
3 Cabal Therapy
4 Ponder
2 Reanimate
1 Tendrils of Agony
4 Thoughtseize
Sideboard:
3 Pithing Needle
2 Cabal Ritual
2 Chain of Vapor
1 Echoing Truth
2 Extirpate
1 Lim-Dul's Vault
4 Show and Tell
The above deck has its own thread... Check the developmental section (TinFins I believe)
I feel like building Reanimator, is it any good in today's meta?
Hello! I have a doubt about the match up against omnitell: I would like to know what side in and what side out!
It's the best deck in the format, but only for as long as people aren't aware of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Froggy
So using this logic my Moubtain Goat.dec is also a DTB? :P and yes, I'm kidding :)
I took down a local tournament this weekend with Reanimator. It was about 40+ people and it is a developed, and sometimes combo heavy meta. I figured I would share my list with anyone interested:
Creatures:
x2 Griselbrand
Tidesprout Tyrant
Angel of Despair
Iona, Shield of Emeria
Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
Empyrial Archangel
x2 Hapless Researcher
Instants:
x4 Brainstorm
x4 Force of Will
x4 Daze
x4 Entomb
Sorcery:
x2 Careful Study
x2 Show and Tell
x4 Exhume
x4 Reanimate
x2 Cabal Therapy
x1 Thoughtseize
x3 Gitaxian Probe
Sideboard:
Show and Tell
x2 Wipe Away
Echoing Truth
x3 Surgical Extraction
x3 Pithing Needle
Cabal Therapy
Inkwell Leviathan
Sphinx of the Steel Wind
Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
Blazing Archon
Here is a quick recap of my matchups and subsequent record:
2-0 vs BUG midrange variant
0-2 vs. Esperstoneblade
2-0 vs Affinity
2-1 Against Zombartment
Round 4: My opponent and I drew into the t8 (I beat him in the finals).
Top 8:
2-1 vs SnT Dreams Halls Variant
2-0 against Esper stoneblade. This was the same opponent I lost to earlier, but we had some great games agasint eachother.
2-0 Against hightide. Landing Iona in both games ftw.
All and all it was a great day. I won myself a NM Tundra, and I can't wait to go play there again. If anyone is interested in more specifics, I would be glad to recall whatever I can. Cheers!
I don't get it. Gitaxian Probe in a Reanimator decklist? Is not worth the cabal therapies, it uses life as a resource as Griselbrand + Tseize + Reanimate does. Can you explain?
It really started as something I just wanted to test out. I had been tinkering with them in place of thoughtseize and ponder. And honestly, I don't think I lose anymore life than I would running 3-4 thoughtseize maindeck. Furthermore, the interaction of the two is just so powerful that I thought it merited more testing. After performing well on cockatrice, I decided to sleeve it up and run it through a tournament.Quote:
I don't get it. Gitaxian Probe in a Reanimator decklist? Is not worth the cabal therapies, it uses life as a resource as Griselbrand + Tseize + Reanimate does. Can you explain?
I did not miss a therapy all day, mainly because I either had the gitaxian probe turn1, or I new I needed to combo and named the only card I knew the other deck could beat me with, e.g. FoW, in all of the relevant match ups. With the redundancy of the deck, it was fairly easy to sacrifice hapless researchers for flashback in a pinch, i.e. if my oponents hand called for it. Futhermore, this way I have 6 ways of seeing my opponents hand t1, and hence knowing exactly how I needed to play the first three turns in order to succeed with my combo.
I will say that I really liked it. What you lose in the card filtering of the ponder, you make up for in CA with therapy and game state knowledge with the probe. And the deck itself is so redundant that with correct mulliganing, it is pretty easy to have the combo pieces in turn 2-3 every game.
Give it a try. I think you will be pleasantly suprised.
Alsan i have some questions of ur list.
1. what's ur side plan with ur list vs BUG,JUND and Sneak Attack? will you re-join the needles for shaman/liliana/Sneak Attack?
2. 1 misdrection will be useful?
3. i want test grave titan vs Liliana in play, replace Sheoldred in the main deck, how do u think?
thanks.
Grave Titan isn't necessary. You really shouldn't stray far from this creature setup
4 Griselbrand
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
1 Tidespout Tyrant
Winning the MOCS didn't make me less of an arrogant, elitist asshole, so I'll just put this bluntly: the lists on the last couple of pages have all been pretty horrendous. Playing less than 4 Griselbrands is just incredibly wrong. I wouldn't fault anyone for playing Sphinx of the Steel Wind or Jin-Gitaxias, because they are reasonable as 5th Griselbrands, but all other options are pretty much garbage. Moving Iona to the board is also defensible, because she's not great in all metagames. If you start to put highly situational creatures like Sheoldred, Empyrial Archangel, Blazing Archona and Angel of Despair into the deck you're just actively lowering your chances of winning for no reason. Tidespout is the most situational creature in my list by far, but you're pretty much forced to play him. I almost never use him, but in the few matchups where you need him he's just insane.
The only problem with this setup is that you're somewhat soft to Karakas. What you do against that is you get Griselbrand into play, draw 14 and protect Tidespout. This doesn't alwasy work, though, so if you expect a lot of Karakas you might want to run 1 or 2 Karakas in your maindeck. However, Karakas isn't really an issue anymore since KotR decks have basically become extinct. The only time you really face it in game 1 these days is against UW players who randomly draw their 1-of.
Needle is solid against both Jund and Sneak and Show.
Misdirection is fine. You can run it as pitch counter 5-6, but I don't think I would ever play it over FoW in this deck. Overall I think it's better in Sneak/Show than Reanimator, because this deck is less worried about Hymns than they are.
i used play the version with 4 griselbrand and also have 4 lotus petal + 4 daze.Quote:
Originally Posted by kikoo
it's fast, but hurt when i got a Surgical Extraction with no counter in hand.
and now i do play 2 karakas in main deck, against other karakas and a lot of Sneak Attack.
Thank your suggestion I will consider it.
3500 posts and now the subtheme of the creature configuration rises again. Most lists of the last pages have been pretty horrendous, as you say, but your configuration is not far from terrible. Back into GP Ghent those kind of decklists performed very well (and very bad, everyone was prepared to fight griselbrand) 'cause all the field was RUG delver and UW Miracles, and Griselbrand crushes those decks. In a REAL metagame, not the one of a GP, where everyone plays netdecks the best deck of that moment, if you're only resilent to Griselbrand you'll be a bye more than a couple of times because he doesn't cover all situations.
But as the winner of MOCS, you'll know that for sure ;).
@cogitoergosum: thanks for the explanation, I'll give it a try. Nice to know other ways to play the deck.
@Zilong: the planning vs BUG / Jund is the same as RUG, if you lose a lot you can always turn back to the Hapless researcher plan. And against Sneak show, pack the Graffdigers cage removal, board 1-2 show and tells, and use your cantrips well. But if you're not playing Blazing archon + Angel of despair, GL trying to win that match if HE casts succesfuly S&T. I have 2 open slots on SB, and as I said before, I'm open to suggestions :). Needle is a worse option than EE, doesn't interact with Cages. Ab.Decay crushes your needled-shaman hopes, remember.
OK, thank u.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alsan