Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
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Originally Posted by
emidln
It's not reasonable to side for Pyrostatic Pillar. Make them discard it or kill them before they play it. Drawing a Chain of Vapor or Echoing Truth is just the worst.
-4 Chant Effects
-1 Ad Nauseam
+3 Inquisition
+1 Truth
+1 Ill-Gotten gains
That's what I've been trying recently.
Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
Against Burn, or Blue-Red Delver?
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I was going to answer this and then decided I'm done spoon feeding you. Come to a conclusion for yourself for once.
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I dont see Inquisition of Kozilek doing anything against Burn.
My bet : RUG Delver.
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Bringing IGG in against blue deck which will bring hate in doesn't sound that bright. On the other hand, I might just be stupid.
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IGG loop without life-loss.
RUG Delver is full of Lightning Bolt, Forked Bolt and can clock fast with a Turn 1 Delver, Turn 2 flip.
The whole reason bringing IGG instead of Past in Flame arent still very clear.
Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
Chant effects have little to no use against dude based decks, since all their hate is 2cc creatures, hence IoK and bounce.
I could be wrong, I haven't played MtG for about 2 months now, but that's my observation.
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IGG is pretty good against burn when they are tapped out. An early IoK against burn is worth at least 3 life, which equates to 3 cards off AdN.
Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
Against mono red burn IGG loop is an option. Against UR, keep it as a wish target for if you resolve a chant effect.
I'd bring in IoK against mono red burn and U/R burn very fast. It hits every card in their decks sans FoW and fireblast if they run it.
Against mono red burn, your best bet is either EtW for 10+ dudes on turn 1 or AdN turn 2 or a turn 3 kill via PiF/IGG. And against mono red burn I just board out chants so fast it isn't funny, as the only way for chant to be live is if they suspend rift bolt and you have the mana to silence/chant them with the suspend trigger on the stack as a psuedo counterspell. Chant with kicker isn't really an option. Overall, it's just a race.
Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
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Originally Posted by
Dark Ritual
Against mono red burn IGG loop is an option. Against UR, keep it as a wish target for if you resolve a chant effect.
I'd bring in IoK against mono red burn and U/R burn very fast. It hits every card in their decks sans FoW and fireblast if they run it.
Against mono red burn, your best bet is either EtW for 10+ dudes on turn 1 or AdN turn 2 or a turn 3 kill via PiF/IGG. And against mono red burn I just board out chants so fast it isn't funny, as the only way for chant to be live is if they suspend rift bolt and you have the mana to silence/chant them with the suspend trigger on the stack as a psuedo counterspell. Chant with kicker isn't really an option. Overall, it's just a race.
Well it's good to know that there's someone who reads this thread that can make correct decisions on their own.
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I'm not sure why you guys are concerned with your burn matchup. Just kill them. Ad nauseam from 14 on turn 2 while respecting fireblast if you haven't duressed isn't really that bad. As for U/R, I've found it helps to not respect permission from them if you can't reasonably afford to as they play anywhere from very little to none. For example, if you can wait two turns against a flipped delver in order to play around permission with your ad nauseam but with your life at 8, you should probably just go for it with 6 additional life. This might already be a common thing and I might be restating the obvious, and if so I'm sorry.
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cuthbertthecat
i'm not sure why you guys are concerned with your burn matchup. Just kill them. Ad nauseam from 14 on turn 2 while respecting fireblast if you haven't duressed isn't really that bad. As for u/r, i've found it helps to not respect permission from them if you can't reasonably afford to as they play anywhere from very little to none. For example, if you can wait two turns against a flipped delver in order to play around permission with your ad nauseam but with your life at 8, you should probably just go for it with 6 additional life. This might already be a common thing and i might be restating the obvious, and if so i'm sorry.
win on all the turn ones!
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Originally Posted by
cuthbertthecat
I'm not sure why you guys are concerned with your burn matchup.
I inquired about what to do versus blue-red and we got a bit sidetracked.
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Originally Posted by
RaNDoMxGeSTuReS
win on all the turn ones!
Pretty much. What're they gonna do, cast their Fire+Lighting Force of Will on Ad Nauseam?
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Originally Posted by
thefringthing
I inquired about what to do versus blue-red and we got a bit sidetracked.
Believe this discussion was finished two pages ago.
Also, sold my pimped TES deck.
Playing RUG for a while.
Later.
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Originally Posted by
RaNDoMxGeSTuReS
Believe this discussion was finished two pages ago.
Also, sold my pimped TES deck.
Playing RUG for a while.
Later.
That's significantly less cool. Did you sell the duals yet, and would you be interested in shipping them to me if you haven't? Also, I think you're gonna regret that sale pretty soon.
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Does anyone know what the Massachusetts meta looks like? I'm going there in 2 weeks with T.E.S. for the SCG open and I was curious if anyone had some insight. Thanks.
Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
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Originally Posted by
RaNDoMxGeSTuReS
Believe this discussion was finished two pages ago.
Also, sold my pimped TES deck.
Playing RUG for a while.
Later.
I'm trying to sell my pimped TES deck too... so I can buy power, but that's a different matter.
Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
I split the finals of a mox sapphire tournament yesterday with the 5 chant, 4 sideboard inquisition list. The only thing I really learned from it was that Sneak+Show is a pretty winnable matchup, both games I killed him the turn after he cheated a fatty into play, doing so in game 2 around chalice on zero and leyline of the white.
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I played T.E.S. in a local yesterday, took 1st, and won my 40th dual land. I beat Sneak Show, Dredge, Maverick, and Maverick. (Small Event)
But with my current sideboard I haven't cast Infest in over a month. I think I may be using that slot as the wishable Duress in the near future.
Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
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Originally Posted by
Bryant Cook
I played T.E.S. in a local yesterday, took 1st, and won my 40th dual land. I beat Sneak Show, Dredge, Maverick, and Maverick. (Small Event)
But with my current sideboard I haven't cast Infest in over a month. I think I may be using that slot as the wishable Duress in the near future.
i'm really noob to the deck (just a couple tournaments played with it) and this community, but is awesome and really funny to me, thnx for the thread. I had a lot of troubles trying to beat sneak show... any advice? show and tell for emrakul t2, with at least 2 counters in hand, or just a lot of tricks. i think that i don't really know how to play t.e.s against alotofcounters.deck correctly (we have chants and discard, but sometimes is very difficult). Something like cruel edict in the wishboard helps?
Thnx a lot and sry for my english :P