Fate Reforged Thread

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Originally Posted by Barook

We Kamigawa names now! I wonder if there are any decks that could utilize it.

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Dega! Bob, SFM, DRS, Mirran Crusader. <3 this guy

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Originally Posted by maharis

Dega! Bob, SFM, DRS, Mirran Crusader. <3 this guy

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For what it's worth, it combines also well with Avalanche Riders.

So, this guy, Faithless Looting, + X (could Entomb, Liliana, whatever)?

I was thinking artifacts - dropping stuff like duplicant into the yard and running thirst and Dack.

Dega is always a trap - Grixis is just better

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Originally Posted by Barook

For what it's worth, it combines also well with Avalanche Riders. So, this guy, Faithless Looting, + X (could Entomb, Liliana, whatever)?

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Good call. Ravenous Baboons and Fulminator Mage are other land destruction options.

I think I like Mom to protect him. I see he's not Imperial Recruiter eligible, haha.

Balefire Liege is a thing.

Braids! Sac her every turn, bring her back, ???, profit?

Humble Defector with Homeward Path should be good. We should be excited. But compare it with Treasure Cruise for a moment. It is not even on the same planet in terms of power level.

How the fuck have we simply accepted that Treasure Cruise and a Dig through Time are just part of the game? They are well beyond reasonable.

Humble Defector is great sideboard tech for monored burn against Leyline of Sanctity.
Then you can draw three cards per turn, and.. oh wait. Still can't win.

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Originally Posted by M+1

Humble Defector is great sideboard tech for monored burn against Leyline of Sanctity.
Then you can draw three cards per turn, and.. oh wait. Still can't win.

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How about going oldschool with Disk or Anarchy?

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Originally Posted by Finn

Humble Defector with Homeward Path should be good. We should be excited. But compare it with Treasure Cruise for a moment. It is not even on the same planet in terms of power level.

How the fuck have we simply accepted that Treasure Cruise and a Dig through Time are just part of the game? They are well beyond reasonable.

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Unless the opponent has some ways to get rid of it, it's +2 cards for each activation. TC is dumb, but might get banned in the next update, who knows.

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Originally Posted by maharis

Good call. Ravenous Baboons and Fulminator Mage are other land destruction options.

I think I like Mom to protect him. I see he's not Imperial Recruiter eligible, haha.

Balefire Liege is a thing.

Braids! Sac her every turn, bring her back, ???, profit?

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you have to think bigger... this card isn't worth playing at all....he doesn't fit into burn, and there are no red ago decks. Dragon stompy can't use him. He's not strong enough to combo around. he's just another standard card that falls to the wayside.

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Originally Posted by Barook

Unless the opponent has some ways to get rid of it, it's +2 cards for each activation. TC is dumb, but might get banned in the next update, who knows.

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Or run both?

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Originally Posted by Cire

There are a lot of utility creatures that this could bring back like: Stingscourger. But I am more interested in being CWAZY: Master of Cruelties? Could be an instant kill if no blockers?

Some other fun - high cost, low power creatures:

Brass Herald - Give your guy a +1/+1 plus search for other humans?
Duplicant - Remove a blocker, and attack with that said blocker!
Gigantomancer - make both your guys 7/7's
Trostani's Summoner - Get 9 power worth of tokens.
Vedalken Dismisser - Be really annoying.

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A few other fun things to do:

Sekki, Seasons' Guide
Triskelion
Ignition Team
Hornet Queen
Auriok Salvagers

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Originally Posted by M+1

Humble Defector is great sideboard tech for monored burn against Leyline of Sanctity.
Then you can draw three cards per turn, and.. oh wait. Still can't win.

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*coughcoughHOMEWARDPATHcoughcough*
Maybe this could see play in painter?

Alesha works with all kinds of wack-a-mole cards.

The Phantom line from Judgment (up to and including Phantom Nishoba - hubba hubba)
Crovax the Cursed - lol
Guiltfeeder
Minion of the Wastes - jib jib jib! (probably master of cruelties is just better, but)
Savage Firecat
Sutured Ghoul
Wall of Blood --- so, that's interesting. Much like Kaalia of the Vast and Slumbering Dragon, this ability doesn't care about defender whatsoever; you just put the thing in already attacking, and the game gives no fucks. +1 for judgebreaking while also playing aggro.
Belfry Spirit (not terribly impressive, I just like Haunt.)
Big Game Hunter nice emrakul, jerk
any number of cards with "Shade" in the title or creature type
Norin the Wary
Ebonblade Reaper
Fiend Hunter
Faceless Butcher
Order of Whiteclay --- comboooooo
Peacekeeper

..... man Gatherer says there's a bunch of creatures with power <= 2

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Originally Posted by Finn

Humble Defector with Homeward Path should be good. We should be excited. But compare it with Treasure Cruise for a moment. ...

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Because they are such different cards, it's not all that clear to me.

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Originally Posted by Barook

But you are correct, Alesha + Master = instagib

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I am pretty sure that this does not work at all. I think that both effects are triggers that go on the stack at "announce attackers". Once Master of Cruelties is on the battlefield, the time for its trigger to go on the stack has come and gone.

Oh wait. Scratch that. I thought it was a delayed IF. In fact, I thought there was such a thing. Gatherer says that the trigger goes on the stack during declare blockers. My bad.

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Order of Whiteclay --- comboooooo

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This one I think does not work. (God, let me be right about this one.) It does not have haste.

Alesha can even make a Peacekeeper fight :laugh:

more thoughts:

Sower of Temptation
Siege-Gang Commander
Knight-Captain of Eos
Doran, the Siege Tower
Solemn Simulacrum
Stonehorn Dignitary (soft combot lock with a sac outlet)
Acidic Slime
Prime Speaker Zegana (Draw 4 I think)
Silverblade Paladin (attack for 10 power)
Mindclaw Shaman (I'll cast that TC thank you)
Karmic Guide (Start some combo. . . or just get another creature out?)

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Originally Posted by Cire

Alesha can even make a Peacekeeper fight :laugh:

more thoughts:
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Has anyone mentioned Imperial Recruiter,Mulldrifter or Bone Shredder?

On the theme of more bad ideas, there are The Mimeoplasm piles.

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Originally Posted by Finn

This one I think does not work. (God, let me be right about this one.) It does not have haste.

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Oh fuck, untap symbol checks summoning sickness. God I hate untap symbol.

lim-dul's paladin

You bring it back, get in for 4 or 6 trample if they block. Then in your next upkeep you let it die and draw a card. Then you do it again. God I love janky engines.

So, just to recap, we are trying replace Reanimate->Griseldick with Triskelion, a 2cc trigger, and a 2cc creature that doesn't have haste?

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Originally Posted by iamajellydonut

So, just to recap, we are trying replace Reanimate->Griseldick with Triskelion, a 2cc trigger, and a 2cc creature that doesn't have haste?

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You must be the life of the party :tongue: