[BFZ]Battle for Zendikar spoilers thread

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Originally Posted by Vicar in a tutu

Where is this enchantment "alleged" or hinted at? Source?

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thread @ salvation

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Originally Posted by Finn

Interestingly, you end up with a mana battery type of effect while you are acquiring parts. In addition to making you very hard to even hit with ground pounders, you can arrange the deck to cast bigger spells. Once infinite, you only need 1. Feel free to cash the others in for mana at will. This card seems to give such powerful control of the game in a variety of ways that I can't believe it works as spoiled. Even at 4 to cast it seems absurd.

What this card needs now is a way to get to enough mana to get it going quickly. What we need is a mana producer in black. It should be a card that can also conveniently exile shit from your opponent's graveyard. And it needs to be generally powerful.

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Deathrite Shaman?

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Originally Posted by Barook

I wonder what the rest of such a deck would look like: StP? Thoughtseize? E-Tutor? More discard?

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Off the bat. . . . (Hint, it is not good)

4 Death Rite Shaman
3 Blood Artist

4 Thoughtseize
4 Swords to Plowshare
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Impact Tremors
4 Enlightened tutor
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Dark Ritual
3 BFZ enchantment
3 Rest in Peace
3 Helm of Obedience

17 Lands

It is good that WotC try to print Fetches and Shocklands, but omg super extremely rare mega full art premium foil mythic rares aren't the answer. They will just cost >100 EUR and will never be seen again.

Concerning that silly enchantment - how about combining it with Astral Slide? Cycle stuff (Street Wraith, for all I care), exile your opponents' creatures and poof, they're stuck in the graveyard.

Might open up possibilities for some weird ass control combo deck. Cycling would assure you'd assemble your lock/combo pieces and, as Cire suggested, Blood Artist could be part of the win condition. Astral slide would allow you to protect it from any removal, so that's nice. On the other hand, 3 CMC enchantments might be too slow for legacy. Hmm, we'll just have to wait and see.

swamp + leyline of the void + 2x dark ritual + altar of the brood + new enchant = T1 win in mono black :)

T0: play leyline
T1: swamp (B), play dark ritual (BBB), play altar of the brood (BB), play dark ritual (BBBB), play the enchant (B) --> one card of the opponent is exiled, use the mana to put a 1/1 into play and mill one card from the opponent deck, sac the token (1), put into the graveyard one card to generate another token and mill another card... etc... Repeat that as many times as needed to mill the opponent.

Did I break the format?

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Originally Posted by Richard Cheese

Also don't forget that Pull from Eternity and Misthollow Griffin are already a thing, and abilities like Suspend and Cascade really just treat exile as another zone.

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And Sisters of Stone Death, Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver, Bottled Cloister, etc., etc., ...
As soon as they keyworded removed from the game this was an inevitability.

Also, looks like the Awaken keyword may stem from Liege of the Tangle.

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Originally Posted by MGB

Now Exile is just another Graveyard? There is no finality to exiling things anymore.

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There's always AWOL. :tongue:

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Originally Posted by Tylert

swamp + leyline of the void + 2x dark ritual + altar of the brood + new enchant = T1 win in mono black :)

T0: play leyline
T1: swamp (B), play dark ritual (BBB), play altar of the brood (BB), play dark ritual (BBBB), play the enchant (B) --> one card of the opponent is exiled, use the mana to put a 1/1 into play and mill one card from the opponent deck, sac the token (1), put into the graveyard one card to generate another token and mill another card... etc... Repeat that as many times as needed to mill the opponent.

Did I break the format?

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Mono Black already has a t1 kill via Leyline with less effort: Helm of Obedience: Swamp, Rit, Rit, Helm+Activate.

altar of the brood is a good replacement for Blood Artist in my deck above - now every combo card could be gotten with enlightened tutor :eek: (Or you could replace tremors, and find something else in Lightning Bolt's place to keep the deck only BW)

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Originally Posted by Cire

altar of the brood is a good replacement for Blood Artist in my deck above - now every combo card could be gotten with enlightened tutor :eek: (Or you could replace tremors, and find something else in Lightning Bolt's place to keep the deck only BW)

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It's also cheaper, easier to cast mana-wise and you still completely blank their creature removal, unlike Blood artist.

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Originally Posted by Cire

altar of the brood is a good replacement for Blood Artist in my deck above - now every combo card could be gotten with enlightened tutor :eek: (Or you could replace tremors, and find something else in Lightning Bolt's place to keep the deck only BW)

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And maybe even play Planar Void and go mono-black ... well, black-blue. This is legacy after all.

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Originally Posted by rufus

And maybe even play Planar Void and go mono-black ... well, black-blue. This is legacy after all.

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Planar Void doesn't combo with Helm, though, unlike RiP which does.

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Originally Posted by Barook

It's also cheaper, easier to cast mana-wise and you still completely blank their creature removal, unlike Blood artist.

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Yep, Agreed - but again we don't even know the real text or casting cost of this enchantment yet - it could be 5CMC :laugh:. And if it is 2B, then . . . . we made a mediocre Mardu Combo deck.


Also another card that is semi-spoiled (full text unknown) but it appears to be

2G
Mythic
Landfall - put a +1/+1 counter on ~
Phantom Ability from Judgment
2/2

The weird layout and the god-awful frame make those new full-art shocks look like shit. About as unpimp as it can get unless you want expensive cards for the sake of being expensive instead of looking good.

http://i.imgur.com/Zukfiyb.jpg

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Originally Posted by Barook

... look like shit. About as unpimp as it can get unless you want expensive cards for the sake of being expensive instead of looking good.

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Welcome to the wonderful world of promos!

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Originally Posted by Barook

The weird layout and the god-awful frame make those new full-art shocks look like shit. About as unpimp as it can get unless you want expensive cards for the sake of being expensive instead of looking good.

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Summer Magic says hello.

And if people's infatuation with Summer duals/basics is any indication, it doesn't matter how bad these new "chase fetches" look, because people will want them badly just because they're super-rare.

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Originally Posted by Barook

About as unpimp as it can get unless you want expensive cards for the sake of being expensive instead of looking good.

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I generally agree with this statement, based on the border. But I reserve my final opinion for seeing them in person in foil.
The one thing I can say in support of this cycle, regarding pimpness is that some people prefer uniformity over all.

So someone with a 5 color EDH who wants all their shocks and fetches to match now has the option. :tongue:

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Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew

I generally agree with this statement, based on the border. But I reserve my final opinion for seeing them in person in foil.
The one thing I can say in support of this cycle, regarding pimpness is that some people prefer uniformity over all.

So someone with a 5 color EDH who wants all their shocks and fetches to match now has the option. :tongue:

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I'm hoping the textbox and border look cooler in person.

Either way I'm really looking forward to all of the new arts since I've loved the steam vents and godless shrine so far. Hallowed fountain was OK but not great.

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Originally Posted by MGB

Summer Magic says hello.

And if people's infatuation with Summer duals/basics is any indication, it doesn't matter how bad these new "chase fetches" look, because people will want them badly just because they're super-rare.

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There is a difference between something being a rarity because it shouldn't have existed and something being a rarity because Wizards decides to make the product artificially scarce. Its like the difference between sought after collectibles (upsidedown biplane stamp) and collector sets that the post office releases all the time.

So far it looks like this set have zero Legacy playable cards. Even hard to find modern playable cards.