[Deck] Dragon Stompy

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Originally Posted by piroko139

I haven't missed Magus at all. I made the call to cut Magus because of the prevelance of Delver and Pile both having Bolt, so Magus would die to gusts of wind whenever I played it. Blood Sun often locked out harder than Blood Moon, and the cantrip isn't nothing.

I haven't considered no creatures, but if I were to cut all creatures, then I'd have to cut Karn too, since it basically wins through attacking.

I have been enjoying 3 Karn and will likely continue to test it in the near future. I occasionally miss the 4th Chandra, but Karn has been impressing me basically everytime I play it. I am currently testing a 2nd PnK to push the token even further, but I'm not sure if that's correct or not.

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I totally agree with the first part about Magus, I also prefer Blood Sun over Magus.

Why would you have to cut Karn if you were to cut all the creatures? If people want to trade "resources" (cards / mana) for your "free" Contruct Tokens, let them. Over time we can create multiple tokens.
My filosophy for going "creatureless" was that it would blank opponents removal spells. The tokens don't cost us actual cards. Having creatures combined with Bridge is still a nonbo but I guess that is part of this deck. :smile:

I am currently thinking of running 8 Planeswalkers 4 CtoD, 2 Karn, 1 Chandra, Pyromaster, 1 Jaya Ballard, and maybe go up a Karn.
Together with a Burning Wish package.

Jelmer

Hello to all.
I would like to start playing this deck.
I would like some advice on the side in and side out vs tiers deck.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by caprino

Hello to all.
I would like to start playing this deck.
I would like some advice on the side in and side out vs tiers deck.

Thanks

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Do you know what version of the deck you want to play?

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Originally Posted by Valleysdai

Do you know what version of the deck you want to play?

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I test last list win legacy challenge mtgo
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1056774#paper

Is more competitive classic version or moggcacher version?

One question....scab clan side in vs ant and?
Vs sneak and show is hard matchup right?

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Originally Posted by caprino

One question....scab clan side in vs ant and?
Vs sneak and show is hard matchup right?

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My main is quite different from that and my sideboard has very little in common.

From what I can see it could be worthwhile against burn

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Originally Posted by Valleysdai

My main is quite different from that and my sideboard has very little in common.

From what I can see it could be worthwhile against burn

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Write you list. Thanks

I heard the Open this weekend has a list sporting Hanweir Garrison and Prophetic Flamespeaker. HRMMMMMM

If anyone can link the videos after they go up...

3rd Justin Gebing
http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/120398
Standard Bridge list: -1 Chandra, -1 Confluence, +2 Karn

14th Sean O'Brien (pretty sure that's nedleeds, right?) http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/120439
This is the list you asked about frogger

This isn't Sean's first list using Flamespeaker. Link


Congrats to both!

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Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew

3rd Justin Gebing
http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/120398
Standard Bridge list: -1 Chandra, -1 Confluence, +2 Karn

14th Sean O'Brien (pretty sure that's nedleeds, right?) http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/120439
This is the list you asked about frogger

This isn't Sean's first list using Flamespeaker. Link


Congrats to both!

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Thanks Ace! I've been rocking Flamespeaker + Equip lately. I've won a few games vs combo decks (like Food Chain) where I connect once with Flames + Jitte, and then close out next turn.
Actually, I got 3rd-4th out of 28 legacy-ers this past Sat, and won a Badlands (in addition to a Volc last year; note: both tap for R):

4 Chrome
8 Sol Lands
10 Mountain
2 Zoetic Cavern
4 SSG

4 Chalice
4 Blood Moon
4 Magus
4 Walking Ballista
4 Prophetic Flamespeaker
4 Imperial Recruiter
1 Revoker
1 Manic Vandal
1 Viashino Heretic
2 Jitte
3 Sofi

SB:
4 Thorn of Amethyst
3 Faerie Macabre
3 Sword Light and Shadow
1 Goblin Settler
1 Stingscourger

Our T8 was mostly red decks, and I beat Burn to get to T4. T4 was: BR Rean x2, Goblins, and me; 0 Brainstorms or DRS. All mountains all the time, baby.

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Originally Posted by ZTurgeon

Don't cut Chrome Mox. The reason people run 4 is because they won't let us run 12. The card is what the deck wants to do. It is a bad top deck, and you just side 1-2 out in matchups where that would matter (mostly pile and miracles) but otherwise that card leads to the most busted openings, which is what the deck's bread and butter is.

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I will admit with my last post I was still feeling a bit salty from top decking so many Moxes when I really needed threats or lock pieces.

I did however drop 1 Chrome Mox so I'm now running 3 main, this allowed me to run 3 Trinispheres main to my previous 2.

I'm also going to test a 2 Crystal Vein/2 City of Traitors split so I can stop boring my buddy's COT. I'm not buying another 2 of those cards right now.

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Originally Posted by Gwathnar

I will admit with my last post I was still feeling a bit salty from top decking so many Moxes when I really needed threats or lock pieces.

I did however drop 1 Chrome Mox so I'm now running 3 main, this allowed me to run 3 Trinispheres main to my previous 2.

I'm also going to test a 2 Crystal Vein/2 City of Traitors split so I can stop boring my buddy's COT. I'm not buying another 2 of those cards right now.

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It feels salty to topdeck lands when you need business, too, but you don't cut some because you had some bad variance, you just accept variance for what it is and move on. The acceleration from Chrome Mox is an important aspect of the way this deck functions; you should absolutely run the full 4. Casting a turn 1 lockpiece is the core principle of this deck...

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Originally Posted by Hanni

It feels salty to topdeck lands when you need business, too, but you don't cut some because you had some bad variance, you just accept variance for what it is and move on. The acceleration from Chrome Mox is an important aspect of the way this deck functions; you should absolutely run the full 4. Casting a turn 1 lockpiece is the core principle of this deck...

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I am testing a build with 2 chrome mox, instead of the full 4, I've made them mountains that stand out (I use snow mountains but these are unglued) I've kept track during testing of whether I'd have preferred it to be a chrome and out of about 10 times only once did I want it to be a chrome mox.

The benefit is that I am now more consistent and have more threats (they don't get imprinted with chrome mox).

I'm in a S&T heavy meta, do you have any secret tech against them?

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Originally Posted by Hanni

It feels salty to topdeck lands when you need business...

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This
http://mtg.wikia.com/wiki/File:Zoetic_Cavern.jpg

I'm also going to link our LGS streaming channel here, since I've got a few videos on Mono R Stompy (and As Foretold... and other random decks):

Dragon Stompy vs Czech Pile

Just for new players to get a sense of how the deck plays; just the creature, non-Chandra version. I saw caprino was curious here.

EDIT: It's impossible for me to get an image on here. Stupid thing. Trolling is hard for me.

The OP in this thread is so out of date. Would be nice if someone could update it.

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Originally Posted by caprino

Hello to all.
I would like to start playing this deck.
I would like some advice on the side in and side out vs tiers deck.

Thanks

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There is a series of posts a few pages back from Zturgeon, a fantastic pilot of this deck, where he goes over some of his deckbuilding logic and sideboard strategies.

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...Stompy/page175

I would go with a list similar to his right now. There are some advantages though to the moggcatcher build. I would say that in the current meta the moggcatcher build will be better against grindy decks as a way to give your deck more late-game consistency. Similarly, the very planeswalker heavy prisony lists will have the same effect.

Zturgeons approach I think is the best for the meta right now. The popularity of new miracles and Czech pile has settled and the meta is more evenly split between grindy decks, tempo, and combo. The rabblemaster build maximizes the impact of each individual card while taking a more aggressive stance so that you can end the game quickly vs. decks that have better card selection and inevetability.

Sneak and show is a truly awful matchup. Against inexperienced pilots you can sometimes win with bridge if they don't board correctly, but if they're smart or play a cunning wish build, it's absolutely one of our worst matchups. Board to kill them as quickly as possible while slowing them down with a relevant lock piece.

So how many are going to Birmingham?

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Originally Posted by jandax

So how many are going to Birmingham?

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I will be and I'm using my tried and tested build. My only worry is omnishow

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Originally Posted by Hanni

It feels salty to topdeck lands when you need business, too, but you don't cut some because you had some bad variance, you just accept variance for what it is and move on. The acceleration from Chrome Mox is an important aspect of the way this deck functions; you should absolutely run the full 4. Casting a turn 1 lockpiece is the core principle of this deck...

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No doubt but in my testing I don't feel the full 3 is needed.
I've either got the mana monkey in hand or a Mox on turn 1 so I can either Blood Moon, Chalice or Trinisphere lock my opponent (depends what they are playing).

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Originally Posted by Zupponn

The OP in this thread is so out of date. Would be nice if someone could update it.

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I am surprised that there are no Blood Sun nor Chaos Warp in latest GP builds (even in SB).
Are they not so widely played, or simply not powerfull enough ?

Florian