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Hello,
So I played the MKM series Legacy main event in Paris this week-end (194 players).
Finished 13th with Golgari Fit after 9 rounds (record 7-2).
I'll write a report when I have more time.
List can be found in one of my former post.
Regards,
Ralf
Awesome. Congrats on the result!
Oh my god, congrats for the pretty nice result! Iam really looking forward to your report!
Sorry I've just realized that the list posted here was not completely accurate.
So while waiting for the report, here is the list that I registered.
Golgari Fit
4 Verdant Catacombs
2 Misty Rainforest
1 Polluted Delta
1 Wooded Foothills
5 Forest
4 Swamp
2 Bayou
1 Karakas
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Bojuka Bog
4 Veteran Explorer
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Grim Flayer
1 Courser of Kruphix
1 Eternal Witness
1 Ramunap Excavator
1 Tireless Tracker
1 Fierce Empath
1 Titania, Protector of Argoth
1 Ishkanah, Grafwidow
1 Carnage Tyrant
1 Massacre Wurm
4 Abrupt Decay
2 Crop Rotation
1 To the Slaughter
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Cabal Therapy
3 Hymn to Tourach
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Nissa, Vital Force
Sideboard :
SB: 1 Thragtusk
SB: 1 Massacre
SB: 1 Nihil Spellbomb
SB: 2 Golgari Charm
SB: 1 Duress
SB: 1 Faerie Macabre
SB: 2 Lost Legacy
SB: 1 Diabolic Edict
SB: 1 Sorcerous Spyglass
SB: 1 Sylvan Library
SB: 1 Reclamation Sage
SB: 2 Surgical Extraction
I like your list, I haven't been liking Dark Confidant much lately so I'm looking to move to something similar. Glad it worked out.
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How many copies of it would you bring?
Let's analyse:
1) This card handles everything/every CMC (land/PW included) which is very nice in Golgari colors (decay doesn't deal with manlands and any CMC >3)
2) This card means CDA if your opponent does have a basic left in his library (you play a card to replace one of your oppo's permanent by a basic)
3) This card can be "counter spelled"
4) This card handles Jace (just to name one of our worst enemy when not playing G/B/R)
It will be played, IMHO.
Get ready.
It's an automatic 4-off for non-Junk and at least 2-3 for any Junk list. Perhaps 4-off for Evo Leap lists too.
Don't over estimate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Echelon
Point 3. is why you will still die to Delver decks.
But if your statement is correct. Start buying "snares"...
It nevet has been a problem with StP/PtE so it won't be a problem for the new card.
I would not dare comparing CMC 1 cards with a CMC 2 card. There is A world of differences between them especially when it gets to be tempo'ed out of a game...Quote:
Originally Posted by Echelon
Don't get me wrong. Delver is why you play AD in the first place (when you don't have access to good CMC 1 spot removal which sometimes is not enough if your STP/PTE is countered).
Answering literally everything other than Storm is extremely relevant. I will be playing these over Diabolic Edict, I'll become weaker to Emrakul and TNN but stronger against pretty much everything else. It probably also straight up replaces Maelstrom Pulse, so that makes three easy slots.
My removal slots in a stock list would then be:
1 Karakas
2 Crop Rotation
1 Abrupt Decay
3 New card
1 Golgari Charm
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Collective Brutality
Plus 3-4 Hymn and 4 Therapy.
In other news for you Ralf, how did you find Grim Flayer to be?
You'll have my thoughts in the report so I won't spoil too much. I'll also post almost 25 sideboard tables that I had prepared for the event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brael
I was well prepared tbh. Shame I didn't hit top 8.
Concerning Grim Flayer. He took the place of my wall of blossoms to better fight combo decks. Providing a clock and card quality at the same time because our draw engine is usually a tad too slow in those MUs.
I wasn't disappointed by him to be honest and his filtering ability did pull its weight.
But this card is weak tbh when you look at the deck.
A necessary evil maybe.
Sorry for the incoming wall of text.
As promised, here is a report of Paris MKM series.
9 rounds – 194 players. Finished 13th.
The list.
4 Verdant Catacombs
2 Misty Rainforest
1 Polluted Delta
1 Wooded Foothills
5 Forest
4 Swamp
2 Bayou
1 Karakas
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Bojuka Bog
4 Veteran Explorer
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Grim Flayer
1 Courser of Kruphix
1 Eternal Witness
1 Ramunap Excavator
1 Tireless Tracker
1 Fierce Empath
1 Titania, Protector of Argoth
1 Ishkanah, Grafwidow
1 Carnage Tyrant
1 Massacre Wurm
4 Abrupt Decay
2 Crop Rotation
1 To the Slaughter
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Cabal Therapy
3 Hymn to Tourach
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Nissa, Vital Force
Sideboard :
SB: 1 Thragtusk
SB: 1 Massacre
SB: 1 Nihil Spellbomb
SB: 2 Golgari Charm
SB: 1 Duress
SB: 1 Faerie Macabre
SB: 2 Lost Legacy
SB: 1 Diabolic Edict
SB: 1 Sorcerous Spyglass
SB: 1 Sylvan Library
SB: 1 Reclamation Sage
SB: 2 Surgical Extraction
60 cards / 15.
Golgari fit.
I knew I wanted something very stable that had means to defeat combo decks. I’m not saying it has good MUs against combo decks but playing a pure golgari deck, gives you the stability to reliably cast HTT by T2. Period.
I’m no beginner with Nic Fit variants (I’ve played all of them in sanctioned events) and I’ve contributed a lot to this community (especially in the past).
Electing an aggro/control deck for such event was a safe shot. I expected the meta to be relatively fair and we all know that Nic Fit is usually comfortable with such expectations.
On to the “big” choices:
1) The high-end curve.
I have elected 4 HEC. Obviously, each one of them has a purpose:
- Ishkanah -> to better fight flying creatures or stalled boards
- Titania -> to better fight S&T
- Tyrant -> to better fight permission decks (U/x control)
- Massacre Wurm -> to better fight aggro decks (gobelin, D&T etc…) What a slaughter.
- Nissa -> the best mono green PW.
Ice on the cake, Ishkanah and Titania do not fear karakas. Worse, you can loop them using your own karakas (to evil deeds)…
Massacre fits only because of the golgari nature of the deck.
2) The middle ground.
- Ramunap + GQ -> to have a chance against big eldrazi and gives you an alternative when you don’t want to give basic lands to your opponent
- EW -> pure value
- Courser -> MD lifegain and card advantage. Perfect body that can help you to transition to the endgame
- Tracker -> draw engine but slow one. Can take over a game if left unchecked.
- Empath -> tutor for your endgame
- Ooze -> one of the best anti tempo creature ever. Suck graveyards like a kid on a chups…
- Grim Flayer -> the weirdo. Beater and quality at the sametime. Usually perfect against combo deck as his power would match a tarmo and provide an endless steam of hate cards. What else?
Tracker is good. But it is really slow and usually doesn’t provide any ETB trigger. It is a creature that I rarely GSZ on an empty board for. When you have a land engine in place, the card is wonderful, otherwise, the go-to will usually be Courser or EW.
Many middle grounders synergise very well together.
And when you have enough mana Empath will give you the finisher you need in your MU (Wurm or Tyrant).
3) The removals suit.
4 Abrupt
1 Toxic
1 Pernicious
1 Pulse
1 To the slaughter
No way I lose to Tempo decks. This meant 4 decay. Period.
You don’t want to be caught in something like : I got double delvered G1. Same G2. Ever. Ever.
The mix of sweepers (1 toxic/ 1 perni) is mainly because of “delve” creatures all over the f.cking place in the meta right now. Not to mention numerous pithing effect in the meta
Then, the x for 1 card:
- Pulse is pretty self-explanatory -> it is the 5th decay with ice on the cake if your opponent has copies of the same card on the battlefield. It also handles PW like a boss.
- To the slaughter -> The “delirium” nature of the deck and the fact it is “instant” made me chose it over “virtu’s maneuver” (and the infinite loop it can provide with EW). I needed another instant to fit my delirium bill as I had already too many ritual spells in my deck. I also wanted an edict effect in the list for huge flying demons (karakas, To the slaughter, Ishkanah, 2 crop; you see where I’m heading) and another card to deal with PW.
4) The utility slots.
1 Karakas
1 Bojuka
1 Phyrexian
1 Ghost quarter
5 forest
4 swamp
2 bayou
7 fetches…
I wanted my manabase to be very resilient and very stable. 9 basics is a lot but the deck is outrageously mana hungry (activating Ishkanah is no joke). I tested with 4 bayou first but went down to two for more resiliency (expecting a wasteland meta as well). Yes I was losing some % to cast HTT by T2 but as I said I expected the meta to be largely fair.
Playing 2 crop (more is too greedy to my taste/testing) grants you the ability to have access to powerful effects that I shall no longer present. Those have obviously been chosen to fight unfair decks (anything cheating creatures in play or dumb cloudpost manabase).
Reanimator naming black on Iona just to get creampie with crop on Karakas is gross but you get the idea.
Eventually, crop on tower will give you absurd wins when you have THE hand. Cheating a Nissa by T2 happens. Not frequently (enough to our taste for sure) but when it does…you get THAT smile on the face (yeah you know, “Oh sorry dude, that was insane”)
The “Shit Show”:
Let’s now start with the run.
Round 1: I had a bye. 3 wins 1 loss at a trial on Saturday.
Round 2: Elves!
Game 1:
My opponent started. he led with forest + GSZ @ 0. I thought Maverick or Elves. I kept a very slow hand without any HTT nor CT/vet. I prayed for Maverick but eventually he played a fyndhorn elves. I knew the game was over. I got Hoof'd like a champ T4.
IN
1 Massacre
2 Golgari Charm
1 Edict
1 Duress
1 Sorcerous
1Sylvan
OUT
-1 Karakas
-1 Bojuka
-1 Tyrant
-1 Ishkana
-1 Nissa
-1 Empath
-1 Titania
Game 2:
I'm on the play. 5 lands, 1 Golgari charm, 1 Diabolic edict is my opening hand. I ponder for a minute. There is a hate card that can turn the tide but no action at all. I thought a lot about it and kept it. I figured out that I would draw action after all and chances to have a better 6 were low.
I landed and passed for the first 4 turns. Then my opponent went for it on T4 -> glimpse + massive draws + gaea + Hoof. I golgari charmed in response of Hoof's trigger and edicted the lonely Hoof (there was no nettle sentinel on the board). He saved a bunch of elves with his 2 symbiotes.
I GSZed for Flayer and eventually attacked for 4 while making sure I wasn't going to draw blank. He conceeded when Wurm landed on the battlefield.
Game 3:
I open a strong hand but I'm on the draw. 3 lands, 1 decay, 1 cabal, 1 deed, 1 GSZ. If I can make it to T3, I would be in a great shape.
I think he led with GSZ @ 0 again. I drew crop for the turn and landed a cabal naming NO. That draw was bonker.
He had 2 Fyndhorn / 2 symbiote / 1 visionary / 1 Crop.
He proceeded to play 1 symbiote + 1 visionary to prepare a strong T3.
I drew veteran T2 and pondered:
There was a very very light chance he could killed me T3 with only a symbiote + visionary + dryad so I landed veteran and flashbacked the therapy. As he didn't play his crop in response (after searching for 2 forest), I figured he might have drew Gaea on visionary (which he did). I named Symbiote and decayed the one he had on the table. He bounced the visionary. I passed the turn.
He led his T3 with a glimpse freshly drawn. He put many elves on the table while keeping 5 cards in hand.
I drew another GSZ for the turn. I wiped his board on T3 with deed @ 1. GSZed for another vet and passed the turn with 3 mana untapped.
He led his T4 with a lot of elves again. Down to 2 cards. He passed the turn and I cropped into Tower EOT.
I drew HTT for the turn. Tower the veteran +GSZed for witness into deed his board again.
From there he drew blank for a few turns and I smashed his face to victory.
Win 2/1
Round 3: Man of Steel
Game 1:
My opponent starts and put an Ankh of Mishra with a mox and a sol land (City of Traitor). Wow...
I keep a good hand with 2 Decay, 1 GSZ, 1 cabal, 3 lands. I draw Deed for the turn.
I play cabal with swamp on the first turn naming Lodestone golem (taking 2 with Ankh). His hand shows another Ankh, a chalice, a ballista and a land (darksteel). I pass the turn.
He then plays his darksteel city after playing Chalice on 1, sac'ed it for his darksteel, lands another Ankh and passes the turn.
I draw a land, play a forest (taking 4), decay an Ankh and pass the turn.
No land on his turn and he just plays the ballista on 1.
I draw veteran, play another forest (taking 2), decay the chalice, play the freshly drawn veteran, flashback the cabal in the yard naming Karn (taking 4 with Ankh) which missed (he drew Ancient tomb) and pass the turn.
He draws, plays his tomb, goes full tap and plays Karn, make a token with it (obviously...freshly drawn) and attack for 1 (I'm at 7).
I draw Courser, play deed, wipe his board @ 2 (ping me for 1 with the ballista, I'm at 6), play a land, pass the turn.
He draws, plays a land and makes another token with Karn (2/2 with darksteel), passes the turn.
I draw Ishkanah, play Courser, reveal a land on top of my library, play the land (gain 1 life, back to 7), reveal a GSZ, pass the turn.
He draws, activates Karn (I give him an inventor's fair, can't recall what I exiled), plays a Synod (token is now 3/3), passes the turn.
I draw GSZ, reveal another land on the top, play the land (gain 1 life, back to 7), reveal another land. GSZ for Witness, reveal Tracker, take back the deed, deed @ 0 (Token, synod), kill Karn with courser.
He concedes as I am so far ahead.
He is not playing a classic brown version of Man of Steel but I stick to my sideboard plan:
IN
1 Sorcerous
2 Golgari
1 Sage
1 Thrag
1 Sylvan
1 Edict
OUT
-3 HTT
-2 CT
-1 Bojuka
-1 Tyrant
Game 2:
My opponent starts. I keep a strong hand again with 2 GSZ, 3 lands, 1 crop, 1 x.
This game was the quickest one in my entire tournament. I got raped T1.
He opens on Ancient Tomb followed by a mox (discard a land). He then plays Grafdigger's cage and Thorn of Amethyst.
That start was brutal. I didn't draw any decay for the cage within the next 3 turns and died to a Lodestone Golem cast on his T2.
Game 3:
10 mins left on the clock. Game 1 was very long.
I start with an average hand: 1 vet, 1 GSZ, 3 lands, 1 decay, 1 golgari charm
I believe we exchanged blows for blows during a few turn. At some point my board is 1 Courser + 1 Tireless (4/3) against 1 Karn, 1 Etched Champion, 1 ballista, 1 Ravager.
I play massacre that I drew a turn or two before and he decided to sac' his board (saving the champion) to kill the Tracker.
Golgari played its second mode's role like a charm (pun intented) and Tracker got to live for extra porn...
The value provided by him was too much and my opponent scooped when the end of the round was called (I could kill him before the last turn anyway).
Win 2/1
Round 4: Death and Taxes
Game 1:
The first game is uneventful. My opponent mulligans to 5 and concedes on turn 4 when the wurm hits the battlefield.
IN
2 Golgari
1 Sorcerous
1 Sylvan
1 Massacre
1 Sage
1 Thragtusk
OUT
-3 GSZ
-2 CT
-1 Bog
-1 To the Slaughter
Game 2:
I keep a slow hand because it contains a golgari charm.
My opponent proceeds to play a SFM every turn starting turn 2.
I decay Jitte at some point, kill a thalia in response to the equip of batterskull and died to a flickerwisp attached to SOFI.
Game 3:
The last game is uneventful. I mulligan to 5 and died the turn before I could wipe is board and comeback in the game.
Bad beats are bad beats. Overall my winrate is positive against D&T but this demonstrates that no MU is 100% win.
Loss 2/1
Round 5: Goblins
I have lost my notes on that one.
But both matches went pretty straight forward:
1) Gather mana while discarding/killing his ultra fast wincons
2) GSZ into Empath to get Massacre Wurm
3) Play Massacre Wurm FTW.
I did "oneshot" him by the way in the first game while landing the Wurm...
Win 2/0
IN
2 Golgari
1 Sylvan
1 Sage
1 Massacre
1 Thrag
OUT
-1 To the Slaughter
-1 Bojuka
-1 Tower
-1 Ishkanah
-2 CT
Round 6: Stoneblade
Game 1
The first game reached a point where I wiped his board with Massacre Wurm. He than proceeds by landing Jace + TNN + batterskull.
I topdecked like a champ -> "To the slaughter". Game. Period.
Game 2
One of the most uneventful game ever.
I played a sorcerous spyglass T2 while my oppo had an island + a flooded strand in play. He then showed me his hand which contained no other land/neither cantrips. So I just named the said fetch and won the match...
IN
2 Golgari
1 Sorcerous
1 Sylvan
1 Edict
1 Massacre
1 Sage
1 Thragtusk
OUT
-3 GSZ
-4 CT
-1 Bog
Win 2/0
Round 7: Grixis Control
I got slaughtered both games.
The first one I died to HTT + Snapcaster into HTT followed by a Jace. I managed drawing lands for 5 turns (thanks to Jace) in a row (with already something like 7 on the board) while my opponent went runner, runner, runner...
The second game I was in a good shape with 3 "must answer" threats for him that I could land in 2 turns:
1) Sylvan -> FOW
2) Deed -> FOW
3) Titania -> FOW
Oh well, shit happens (god hands also).
I fucked it up pretty hard, here, locking me out off the top 8. My sideboard attempts was really bad and all I remember was siding out "Cabal therapy" which cost me the game. You have to respect FOW in this MU.
Loss 2/0
Round 8: UB Death Shadow
I won the first game, lost the second one.
The last game was interesting as I think everything was decided by my keep/decision.
My hand was above the average (Veteran + CT) and a Tyrant.
I knew I would lose to a combination of Thoughtseize+reanimate from my opponent.
As I was on the play, I named TS.
Of course he had 2 TS and 2 reanimate in his opening hand.
Needless to say that the Tyrant closed the game pretty fast against my "a bit salty" opponent.
IN
1 Spellbomb
1 Duress
1 Edict
1 Faerie
1 Sage
1 Thragtusk
1 Sylvan
OUT
-1 Karakas
-1 Nissa
-1 Wurm
-1 Empath
-2 GSZ
-1 Titania
Win 2/1
Round 9: Gobelin
Nothing particular.
My opponent flooded a bit during G1 even after 2 veteran triggers. Wurm closed the first game.
The second game was a bit more intense but a timely deed followed by a Kruphix put me right back into it.
IN
2 Golgari
1 Sylvan
1 Sage
1 Massacre
1 Thrag
OUT
-1 To the Slaughter
-1 Bojuka
-1 Tower
-1 Ishkanah
-2 CT
Win 2/0
Hope you enjoyed the report.
If you have any questions please feel free to shoot.
Regards,
Ralf
@Ralf.
A couple comments on your list since we're running things that are somewhat similar (colors, land counts, removal, etc)
I've been playing a Twilight Mire as one of my lands. I've really been liking it because it occasionally lets me open on Forest but still have a T2 Hymn.
I've had much better results than you with Tireless Tracker. I'm probably going to switch to something similar to your list, but I want more Trackers. Courser of Kruphix has been very bad in my experience, among other things it makes it very easy for opponents with a Jace the Mind Sculptor to know exactly when they should +2 to lock you out of the game. So I've been finding that Courser takes what is already a strong card against us, and makes it even stronger against us. Fierce Empath feels bad as well (and if it goes, so does Massacre Wurm). So between those 3 cards you could make room for a playset of Trackers. Otherwise, the only real thing I would change, is to swap Nissa out for a 4 CMC creature to GSZ on the 5 mana openings. It will make the strong mana hands much stronger.
Courser might be not great against Jace but the deck is not bad against Jace as a whole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brael
It has been fantastic in many other MUs. Tireless is very good but draw too much attention from your oppo. It sticks rarely. And I'm talking about games where you have Tireless and Courser out...
Wurm was MVP this week-end but I'll come to it in my report. Closing games faster than anything else. It is very good in fair games. Especially when you play 3 games.
I would make changes to my list after this week-end but you will be surprised when the full report is out.
Don't forget that my deck was heavily metagamed. That's the beauty of playing a GSZ toolbox. You can tweak the creatures you wanna play to your expected meta.
US meta is known to be even fairer so I don't see the list doing less good over there.
Europe is less fair definitely.
Regards,
Ralf
PS: if someone wants it I've got 20+ sideboard tables at the ready. Just PM me.
Went 1-2 drop tonight beating Canadian thresh and losing to depths and seismic swans. Turbo depths feels close to unwinnable. I saw Ralf has 2 crop rotations and a Karakas...and I'll pick up Assassin's trophies. Diabolic edict in the board i suppose too? Still seems miserable. Losing to Swans was silly...g3 I didn't see blood moon coming and simply didn't fetch basics. Suggestions?
2 swamp
3 forest
1 wastes
3 verdant catacombs
4 Llanowar wastes
4 Ancient Tomb
1 phyrexian tower
2 overgrown tomb
1 eldrazi temple
1 dryad arbor
1 oath of ghouls
4 Leyline of the Void
2 helm of obedience
1 diabolic intent
4 veteran explorer
2 phyrexian revoker
1 scavenging ooze
1 tireless tracker
1 rhonas the indomitable
3 deaths shadow
1 Varolz, the Scar-Striped
4 thought not seer
1 kalonian hydra
4 cabal therapy
4 green Sun's Zenith
3 abrupt decay
2 sylvan library
SB:
4 engineered plague
2 innocent blood
4 Thoughtseize
1 carpet of flowers
2 choke
1 eternal witness
1 xantid swarm
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Probably the only Legacy deck I think may run this.. finds Pernicious Deed, Abrupt Decay/Assassin's Trophy etc...
Is it just me, or is this a fairly decent reanimator card? T1 faithless looting, t2 tutor for reanimate. It seems like nic fit is a tad too fair to really use this, I mean diabolic intent is already a card.Quote:
Originally Posted by streetMage
It's just you. You either don't have creatures in your gy and it's useless or you do and you'd rather it be a reanimate/exhume/animate dead. However...it does assemble deaths shadow plus Varolz and leyline of the void plus oath of ghouls :tongue: .Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Safety
Edit: It does work with LED...so possibly reanimator yes.