Commander 2014 thread

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Originally Posted by Zupponn

If it could target players too, then it would be insane.

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"INSANE" is an overstatement. Useful? Sure. Flame Rift into Impact Resonance would be twelve damage to the dome at 4cc, but I'm pretty sure that's as good as it gets unless there's a Bargain effect that deals damage instead of sucking life.

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Originally Posted by TsumiBand

Weird that it's an equipment without an equip cost :/ I mean I get it, but it is useless on its own, even for incidental bonuses (like "this bad Cat Warrior gets +2/+2 for each Equipment attached to it" or whatever lousy thing no one is playing anyway)

I want to like it, but seeing as how it needs to have something to copy and it isn't as variable as something like Sculpting Steel (which I don't think sees any Legacy play? I don't think) I question its usefulness. It'll be a bit win-more-ish, I think - I mean if it were important to have multiple copies of good Equipment cards, wouldn't your average SFM shell already carry multiples? It similarly 'cheats' copies into play (causing them to cost :1::w: instead of :1: as this card does) but most lists are content to have just one instance of each relevant Equipment.

The Trinket Mage thing is maybe a good idea, but then it kind of begs the question as to why you don't just run SFM yourself (imo).

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so the reason Masterwork of Ingenuity is good is because you can't always just drop a bunch of batter skulls into play. But with masterwork you can.

T1 land mox -> SFM
T2 Sol land -> batterskull masterwork masterwork.

opponent is probably conceding after that unless he has a terminus on top.even if he does, bounce masterwork to hand, and replay for 1 mana... SFM is only necessary to get original into play.

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Originally Posted by apple713

so the reason Masterwork of Ingenuity is good is because you can't always just drop a bunch of batter skulls into play. But with masterwork you can.

T1 land mox -> SFM
T2 Sol land -> batterskull masterwork masterwork.

opponent is probably conceding after that unless he has a terminus on top.even if he does, bounce masterwork to hand, and replay for 1 mana... SFM is only necessary to get original into play.

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So you're suggesting Batterskull Stompy where you spam Batterskulls? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Barook

So you're suggesting Batterskull Stompy where you spam Batterskulls? :confused:

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its actually something being discussed on our thread

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Originally Posted by Barook

So you're suggesting Batterskull Stompy where you spam Batterskulls? :confused:

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Worked for Godo MUD

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Originally Posted by iamajellydonut

"INSANE" is an overstatement. Useful? Sure. Flame Rift into Impact Resonance would be twelve damage to the dome at 4cc, but I'm pretty sure that's as good as it gets unless there's a Bargain effect that deals damage instead of sucking life.

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I was thinking Price of Progress you for 8, then Impact Resonance you for another 8 would be really strong. Plus there would have been some game where someone takes a hit from Emrakul and then domes them for 15.

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Originally Posted by Zupponn

Plus there would have been some game where someone takes a hit from Emrakul and then domes them for 15.

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Once you sac all your permanents (assuming you have less than eight), you'll have no mana to pay for Impact Resonance as you can't float mana between steps.

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Originally Posted by Zupponn

If it could target players too, then it would be insane.

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That would make it basically a buffed Berserk althought it does not work in Infect.

But attacking for a bunch with Tarmogoyf and then playing this to shoot a deathrite and 3 more in the face? yay..

http://media.wizards.com/2014/c14/aa...j7p2zy504e.png

It only took them years to print this hatebear.

Sure, sucks with Aether Vial, but does alot of work against anything that wants to put creatures into play. Also makes creatures permanently go away in combination with Flickerwisp.

Alright, gonna ask the question any rules-idiot is going to ask: what happens if your opponent resolves Show and Tell, with them playing Emrakul, the Aeons Torn and you play Containment Priest?

Finally, the S&T hatebear we've all been waiting for. I realize that this has flash, but does it also interact favorably with being put in with S&T by exiling itself as well as your opponent's creature?

EDIT: Got ninja'd.

Nice, so what does this hit? (sorry, just finished a hard week @ work and a bit brainfucked) Sneak Attack, Show and Tell, all Reanimaton, GSZ, Natural Order, Aether Vial, anything I'm missing?

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Originally Posted by Shawon

Alright, gonna ask the question any rules-idiot is going to ask: what happens if your opponent resolves Show and Tell, with them playing Emrakul, the Aeons Torn and you play Containment Priest?

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IIRC Show and Tell'd stuff all enters play simultaneously so the Containment Priest ability isn't active when Cthulhu enters the battlefield.

So it hoses Dredge and Show strategies. Not bad for Death n Taxes decks as a sideboard or even maindeck option.

UHHHHH Hmmm, just thought of this.

If you flash this in response to Natural Order slash Green Sun's Zenith against Elves, since Containment Priest's exile clause is a replacement effect, will Craterhoof Behemoth being searched for not only exile itself, but since the replacement effect prevents it from entering the battlefield, does that mean Choof's ETB never triggers?

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Originally Posted by Barook

http://media.wizards.com/2014/c14/aa...j7p2zy504e.png

It only took them years to print this hatebear.

Sure, sucks with Aether Vial, but does alot of work against anything that wants to put creatures into play. Also makes creatures permanently go away in combination with Flickerwisp.

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That card does a whole lot of work. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in boards from UWR/Miracles/DNT(main?) and others at the GP

Full commander list was spoiled, we got an anti-reanimate/SnT/Oath 1W 2/2 creature with flash. SB i guess.
Red list has Welder, Flametongue Kavu, Daretti, Dualcaster, Faithless looting etc... it's total value.

Also volcanic offering is insane. It's 4R for destroy 2 nonbasic lands and 2 creatures you don't control. Sure you choose only 1 target of the two, but still, it's like a one-sided wildfire for 4R.

Then Green got a 2G enchant permanent that transform the enchanted permanent in a forest.

Solemn simulacrum and all medallion got reprinted. Not sure they hold any value. SKullclamp got reprinted. Spine of Ish Sah, Myr Battlesphere, Wurmcoil Engine, Steel Hellkite, Pentavus, Nevinyrral disk, Bosh, Bog, The Karoo cycle of lands all got reprinted too.

Red deck is best value imho.

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Originally Posted by Gheizen64

Also volcanic offering is insane. It's 4R for destroy 2 nonbasic lands and 2 creatures you don't control. Sure you choose only 1 target of the two, but still, it's like a one-sided wildfire for 4R.

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As I read it, they can target the same permanent you chose.

So what are the things that Containment Priest hoses in this format, exactly?

Sneak n Show:
- Show and Tell
- Sneak Attack

Dredge:
- Ichorid
- Narcomoeba

Reanimator:
- Reanimate
- Exhume
- Show and Tell
- Animate Dead

Elves:
- Green Sun's Zenith
- Natural Order

Vial Decks (Goblins, Death N Taxes):
- AEther Vial

BUG Shardless:
- Any creature that would be played off a Cascade trigger (Tarmogoyf/Dark Confidant coming into play after Shardless Agent)

Nic Fit:
- Chord of Calling (not played much but still)
- Birthing Pod (again, not seen often but in a handful of Nic Fit decks)

Anything significant I'm missing here?

JUDGE!

How does Containment Priest interact with Dryad Arbor? Both when fetched and when played as a land for the turn?