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So I haven't seen this discussed yet in this thread:
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From Reddit:
Disciple of the Vault is the alternate kill card here, in case your opponent can't be decked (Emrakul, etc).Quote:
For those who can't see it, here's the combo:
Have those three in play.
Target Saheeli with Liquimetal Coating.
Use Saheeli's -2 on herself.
Keep the copy.
Repeat steps 3 and 4 until your opponent gets decked out.
Given how cheap this combo is, is there a Legacy shell here?
Too easy to disrupt. Any Lightning Bolt gets in betweenQuote:
Originally Posted by BenBleiweiss
It's cute, you can probably win some games with it, but I really doubt a three card combo is really all that viable.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenBleiweiss
Not to mention there are plenty of common main and sideboard cards that just ruin this, from Pithing Needle, Phyrexian Revoker, Abrupt Decay, Krosan Grip, etc...
Why do that over something like Painter Stone? Three card combos, even cheap ones, normally see less traction than two card combos.
Yeah, not to mention none of those things is really good on it's own, besides the 'Walker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dice_Box
Kambal is strong because he is _not_ symmetrical and taxes the opponent even if he doesn't try to storm combo. Searching removal against him by using cantrips isn't pleasant.
Question is if he is playable from the casting cost and colors standpoint.
D&T probably doesn't need him, after Prelate and stuff.
Kambal not dying to Massacre is probably his biggest plus side over most of the other hatebear options. New recruiter doesn't find him though.
The only reason is because there was a lot of talk about the use of Liquimetal Coating in Legacy back when it was spoiled (for instance, as land destruction with Gorilla Shaman). It never gained traction, but I could see it being used in the same way that Painter's Servant can use Elemental Blasts to tip the game as an aside to the main plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dice_Box
no 3 card combo will ever make sense in a world where you can Exhume/SnT Griselbrand
If you're running a full set of the coating I think you can get away with playing 4 Dack Fayden?Quote:
Originally Posted by H
If you can find a way to slot in that third card, I could see something like this working. I see the deck working in a Grixis shell with Tez and Daretti. Add Welder and you could have some fun. I am just not sure if the secondary advantage of Land disruption is enough though.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenBleiweiss
Not to knock it, I love the idea, it's just if your not playing a control role you need to be playing a tempo role to make LD effective. I guess you could go down to the control route, using things like Bridge, Opal and Thopter Sword. But then it becomes about getting all the moving parts to line up, an issue the current builds of Tez have yet to get right.
That said, it sounds fun if made to work.
Edit:
DACK.... Ohhh.
Best I can come up with is:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dice_Box
4 brainstorm
4 ponder
4 fow
4 daze
4 bolt
4 snap caster
4 Saheeli Rai
4 Dack Fayden
4 Liquimetal Coating
4 Altar of the Brood
20 Lands
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Probably just better to run Delver at that point though? I think you need something to search up the combos. . . maybe Reshape?
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I think this card could be pretty interesting.
Disciple should be the better piece here if we're not using an ETutor package? Hits people, chumps, can carry equipment and if the Gorilla Shaman+Liquimetal fun is done, pings people for that.
Coating+Ancient Grudge sounds fun too.
I'm not sold on any of the CARS yet, but there's an element to them where they are basically equipment with zero equip cost. That's interesting, and perhaps makes them marginally better than equipment in decks with small creatures. They're narrow, though, in the sense that running CAAAAARRRSSS requires you to run creatures in that sweet spot where they reliably can drive the CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR but not so big that they get smaller when they do (Clown Car style).Quote:
Originally Posted by HSCK
CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRS
Pheh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cire
When Liquidmetal Coating first came out, I paired it up with Gorilla Shaman in Vintage. It was funny as hell when it got going. Nuking lands for free, killing weenies for a small down payment. Still, Mox Monkey is better played in a format with Moxes.
Right on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zombie
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I don't hate this card. It's not flashy or anything, but it's got a remarkably powerful enters-the-battlefield effect. Blinking this lady is such amazing value, I expect it to start being an EDH staple. Could even see play in weirdo decks like Aethermage's Touch or some nonsense.
That's fine, but it seems like the vehicles that have been spoiled so far aren't that much better than creatures with similar casting cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaximumC
Yeah, but that's the same problem with equipment, right? I mean, only the broken ones see play there, so the comparison might well just prove CAARRRS are bad anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by rufus
That's boring, you could always play Leonin Elder and aetherflux and go for the hadouken to the face.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenBleiweiss
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Let's get there fellahs!