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This might sound like a broken record in BG legacy forums, but how does everyone feel about Tasigur in this deck? It's been argued as Gofy 5-7, in decks that run it. We've all seen its strengths: 4/5 for 1B on turn 2-3, Immune to Abrupt Decay, Counter balance/top. I'm interested in the thoughts and opinions of my fellow Cure-ers
Anyone test temur battle rage?
While tasigur is excellent vs BUG decks, he isn't immune to CB/Top.Quote:
Originally Posted by fonzdizon
He is CMC 6, meaning a terminus counters him :)
Has anyone actually played this recently? Sounds like a good budget deck for a friend who wants to get into legacy.
Just wondering if people are running updated lists something different than posted in the past few pages.
I believe the deck that most people play with is the deck posted by kc.hogan on the top of page 16. However, I would consider the deck-list posted by ironclad8690 on page 17 to be viable as well, but I would put in chalice of the void over summoners pact for control. However the lack of activity on this forum has led to other deck-lists not being tested and thus no feedback on how consistent other "Cure" variants are, Shakara's list on page 17 that splashes white for Swords and Stoneforge seems fun, but I haven't seen any feedback on his deck-list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syntex
Have you considered adding rain of gore into the deck?Quote:
Originally Posted by ironclad8690
To what end? To fight the mirror? Or Nic Fit?
Rain of Gore only works if the effects' controller gains life. In case of Invigorate and such are you the one casting it and thus its controller. Your opponent gains life but does not control the effect, hence Rain of Gore doesn't work.
Possible new card for this deck:
Tainted Remedy 2B
Enchantment
If an opponent would gain life, that player loses that much life instead
Permanent False Cure for 2B instead of BB. Worth playing as 5th copy of Cure?
Unfortunately, this prevents Kavu Predator from triggering, I believe, since the opponent never really gains life.Quote:
Originally Posted by gibbousm
You could go all-in on this card with Skyshroud Cutter and Invigorate, but that might just be worse than infect.
This card is really exciting! Suddenly instead of a somewhat-bad creature-based combo deck, this gets to be a possibly-less-bad spell-based combo deck. How about a hybrid turbo-depths / Cure deck?
3 Vampire Hexmage
3 Skyshroud Cutter
4 Chalice of the Void
4 False Cure
4 Living Wish
3 Life from the Loam
4 Tainted Remedy
4 Reverent Silence
4 Refreshing Rain
4 Mox Diamond
3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Bayou
1 Swamp
1 Forest
4 Verdant Catacombs
1 Bloodstained Mire
2 Barren Moor
1 Tranquil Thicket
3 Dark Depths
3 Thespian's Stage
// Sideboard
1 Skyshroud Cutter
1 Vampire Hexmage
1 Dark Depths
1 Thespian's Stage
4 Abrupt Decay
1 Shriekmaw
1 Tranquil Thicket
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Brain Maggot
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Tormod's Crypt
Obviously this deck is incredibly raw, but it looks sweet. I think the sideboard needs to be cleaned up a lot and there's a bit of a nonbo between Tainted Remedy and Reverent Silence, but hopefully that's ok. For a more-focused False Cure build, I think you might want Infernal Tutor since it works so well with all the combo pieces? Not sure. What do you guys think?
Is brain maggot really the best anti combo wish target? I think a kavu predator makes sense as a target, especially if u have chalice out.
Mesmeric Fiend has the marginal upside of not being an Enchantment?Quote:
Originally Posted by kinda
I think tainted remedy also turns off false cure :/
I actually think Tainted Remedy could be a real deck, but I don't think the Depths shell is the way to go.
I think we definitely want to play white, there are a lot of cards that are somewhere between no-brainer and potential role player (Swords to Plowshares, Last Breath, Wall of Shards, Replenish, Enlightened Tutor, even that new Nyx card). I haven't built the deck yet but I do think it's out there.
Another thing that might work is a Veteran Explorer/Nic Fit shell. That gets us access to Academy Rector, and even potentially Primal Command. You gain 7 life, search up Skyshroud Cutter and put it on the stack domes them for 12.
You're right there, it's pretty bad. Nedleeds was suggesting cutting that, Ooze, Crypt, and Tranquil Thicket for Karakas, Iona, Faerie Macabre, and Reclamation Sage. I still think there are too many slots devoted to the Wish package, but I haven't tested with the deck enough to know what's necessary. Kavu Predator probably does deserve a slot.Quote:
Originally Posted by kinda
It sure does. It also shuts of Kavu Predator. There are a few nonbos within my build.Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfstorm
I think that False Cure / Tainted Pact isn't even close to being compact or cheap enough to compete as a linear combo deck with things like Omnitell and Storm, so my thought is that it's necessary to hybridize it with something. Of all the combos I could think of, Depths is attacked by the most disjoint set of cards while being in-color. That being said, maybe it's just too bad at doing either half.Quote:
Originally Posted by maharis
The Primal Command interaction is interesting, but you basically have to "go off" with Explorer to get to 5, then also have Tainted Remedy in play. Also most NicFit decks don't actually have that many cards at the 5+ slot for curve considerations.
The false cure/pact nombo seems like a non issue. You only need 1 to go off...the other is back up. Predator is obviously more of an issue but as a 1 of wish target or 2 of gsz target when u don't have pact it still seems very good. I'm curious how consistent the hybrid list is. I'll test when I get a chance.
Sorry, you're the one with the SCG open trophy and I'm just some schmuck. Should've explained myself better. :smile:Quote:
Originally Posted by phazonmutant
I just feel like the combos don't shareany common pieces, so you could end up in a situation where you draw your Hexmages and Cures/Remedies and lose before you can do anything about it.
Putting this in a Nic Fit shell allows you to play a game where you control the game/board before having a fundamental turn with a combo finish. Maybe Primal Command won't work, but it's an option. (Also, by the way, is Dark Petition, because with Spell Mastery you can find and resolve either Cure or Remedy). Scapeshift variants of Nic Fit play this way.
I don't know how good a 4-color deck would be, but Fiery Justice and Punishing Grove are very interesting with these cards (Those might have been discussed, I haven't read the whole thread).
Though I did see your suggestion of a BUG version, and I'm sort of surprised no one's tried something like Cure, Snap-Cure, go off.
You could play 4 x Brainstorm and shuffle redundant pieces back for better cards ... just saying.
Well, pretty much the only thing my hybrid list above does well is kill Blood Moon with Reverent Silence and then kill with Marit Lage. 2/10 would not play again.
Anyone try a more traditional list? Like:
4 Tainted Remedy
4 False Cure
4 Grove of the Burnwillows
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
3 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Xantid Swarm
2 Kavu Predator
4 Invigorate
4 Skyshroud Cutter
3 Summoner's Pact
4 Reverent Silence
4 Bayou
1 Forest
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Thoughtseize
3 Punishing Fire
2 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Deathrite Shaman
2 Windswept Heath
1 Taiga
SB: 3 Refreshing Rain
SB: 4 Duress
SB: 4 Abrupt Decay
SB: 1 Sylvan Safekeeper
SB: 2 Surgical Extraction
SB: 1 Xantid Swarm