[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

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Originally Posted by apple713

Untill it gets a mass reprint

It will be healthy for modern

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I doubt so. Let's say they reprint Wasteland in m15 as a mythic (not very probable they would print it as a rare, see Tarmogoyf). It would become modern legal and the price would spike overnight straight up to the sky. I honestly believe the same would happen even if it were reprinted as an ordinary rare.

The only way I can see Wasteland going down (when reprinted) is if they would massively reprint it at least 2-3 times. And that just won't happen, we all know how keen WoTC are in the matter of reprinting high value cards. Don't underestimate the number of players playing modern.

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Originally Posted by prateta

I doubt so. Let's say they reprint Wasteland in m15 as a mythic (not very probable they would print it as a rare, see Tarmogoyf). It would become modern legal and the price would spike overnight straight up to the sky. I honestly believe the same would happen even if it were reprinted as an ordinary rare.

The only way I can see Wasteland going down (when reprinted) is if they would massively reprint it at least 2-3 times. And that just won't happen, we all know how keen WoTC are in the matter of reprinting high value cards. Don't underestimate the number of players playing modern.

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It should be an uncommon as it was originally. Rarity is used for mostly for limited.

Wasteland is a great card in legacy because everyone is greedy. How popular is blood moon/ magus in modern? That would be a good indicTion of wastelands sucess there.

Wasteland is also an important card to balance the format. They could unbann vesuva is they reprinted wasteland

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Originally Posted by apple713

It should be an uncommon as it was originally. Rarity is used for mostly for limited.

Wasteland is a great card in legacy because everyone is greedy. How popular is blood moon/ magus in modern? That would be a good indicTion of wastelands sucess there.

Wasteland is also an important card to balance the format. They could unbann vesuva is they reprinted wasteland

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Wasteland is already pretty good in a format where we have the original duals.

Taking two bolts to the face for free due fetching up shocklands doesn't sound too hot, especially when you lose them to Wasteland afterwards.

Dust Bowl would probably more appropriate card for Modern - still slow and requires a bunch of resources, but doesn't fucking suck like all the shitty Wasteland variants Wizards has printed lately.

Edit: I just had a bad feeling and looked up Karakas on SCG - for how long has it been 120$ on SCG? It's out of stock, at least the Legends version.

I wouldn't be suprised if it became one of the next targets of speculators, especially more white decks (especially D&T) around. The price is way too stable for that.

I believe River of Tears is the next card that will increase in value. It's the best U/B dual land for the Modern Faeries deck, and has only been printed in Future Sight. All the other Faerie cards have already seen a price burst, so I guess it's only a matter of time till people realize how good it is.

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Originally Posted by Sigar

I believe River of Tears is the next card that will increase in value. It's the best U/B dual land for the Modern Faeries deck, and has only been printed in Future Sight. All the other Faerie cards have already seen a price burst, so I guess it's only a matter of time till people realize how good it is.

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Sunken ruins would like to have a word with you

Are you kidding? Sunken Ruins doesn't cast turn 1 discard, and is garbage with Mutavault. You might wanna run 1, maybe 2 Sunken Ruins, whereas River of Tears is a clear 4-of.

River of tears went up to like 8-10 bucks a couple of days ago

Where? It's still pretty cheap here https://www.magiccardmarket.eu/River....c1p15171.prod. Guess one should buy some when they're still low then! :D

Hooray for sweepers!

Looks like another edition of "From the Vault: Worthless Shit".

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Originally Posted by Barook

Hooray for sweepers!

Looks like another edition of "From the Vault: Worthless Shit".

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I've always been curious as to who the targeted audience is for FTV stuff. Serious collectors would want the originals (Beta Wrath of Gods), players normally don't care too much as long as it's tourney-legal, and casual kitchen table players probably won't want to spend $35 on something that can be had for far less? Maybe I'm wrong as there's obviously a market for this stuff, I'm just having a hard time understanding who actually spends their hard earned money on this stuff.

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Originally Posted by Arsenal

I've always been curious as to who the targeted audience is for FTV stuff.

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Speculators? :confused:

Who else would it be aimed at, considering the amounts of worthless crap they include in every FtV stuff, aside from the money rare? The first two FtV had a decent power level going on, but then it went all to hell.

They are presumably for collectors but value junkies and speculators are the ones buying them up before anybody else can get them.

It doesn't matter how you feel about them or how much you hate the foiling process or how boring the cards are. The fact is, if you can get these at retail, you are going to make some money.

Actually, I take all that back. These are just for anybody with 35 bucks to burn who lives near a store willing to sell them at retail. Everybody knows you can resell or trade them and make some easy value. I've seen all kinds of people go crazy trying to preorder these - from super trade sharks to average FNM schlubs.

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Originally Posted by Barook

Hooray for sweepers!

Looks like another edition of "From the Vault: Worthless Shit".

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Damnation could use a reprint but it seems inevitable that Wrath of God will be in this set even though it doesn't need to be. Foil 7th is the hotness for foil though ftv will be new border.

They did Disk in relics. Maybe Akroma's Vengeance?

Trying to think of a sweeper that needs to be reprinted and all I can come up with is Rolling Earthquake (please god).

What sweepers are really worthwhile for this product anyway? Damnation might be the only expensive sweeper that comes to mind.

Wrath of God
Hallowed Burial
Supreme Verdict
Black Sun's Zenith
Earthquake
Jokulhaups
Nevinyrral's Disk
Oblivion Stone
Armageddon
Death Cloud


Seems pretty weak for a theme. Not like these cards aren't gettable, really searched for.

Pernicious Deed needs a new art reprint.

I would sell Judge Vindicates and stuff before this Sees further spoiler...

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Originally Posted by Shawon

Pernicious Deed needs a new art reprint.

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The Judge FOIL is Hot




Edit: I see chances for cheaper Sinkholes and Wastelands in there

Yoooo Ravages of War. Does Karn Liberated count as annihilation?

Burning of Xinye is also one of the more expensive sweepers. Ravages of War is out of question due to price reasons.

They could jam in Emrakul as well (he has an Annihilator trigger, after all).

@Lemnear: Why exactly Vindicate? It already got a foil Judge promo - twice.

We might get cheap crap like Pyroclasm or Desert Twister. Otherwise, that one guy at Wizards who rubs his dick when including terrible low-value cards into FtV sets would go limp.

FTV: Ravages of War + Overwhelming Forces get hype!

Actually, Apocalypse could use a new makeover as well... *checking right now if it's on RL*

EDIT: Darn, it's on RL. *shakes fist*