[Deck] GW/x Maverick

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I'm totally being the early adopter here and I went and bought 4 Skylasher on preorder.

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I think Skylasher is just a Sideboard option for Maverick, because Scryb Ranger+CoS is just better.


What do you Guys think about Huntmaster of the Fells. Is he worth to play in Punishing Maverick? I think he can finish Games alone. Just play him. Wait a turn. He transforms. If the Opponent cast more than 2 spells you get tokens and life. Then just wait your turn, and the opponent lose life and maybe a creature.

Have you ideas to play against Helm of Obdience Combo decks? I think preboard the mu is just horrible. We can just play Qasali to destroy there Enchantments. I just think that Armageddon makes the MU better. But 2 cards in 60 are not so much. Have you other Ideas? Maybe Krosan Grip, because its counterproof, but in my sideboard the Oring is in the Krosan Grip slots, because Oring is good against more Decks, than krosan Grip.

I agree the idea with Rest in Peace. It shuts down RUG, Dredge, Tin Fins, Reanimator, some Storm, good in Mirror Match. I try it over the Surgicals and Purify the Grave.

Yesterday I split in the finals with GW maverick.
i played against, canadian, miracle, blade and agent bug. the deck works very well and i dont need any colour splash.

Creature [27]
1 Dryad Arbor
4 Noble Hierarch
3 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Scryb Ranger
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4 Mother of Runes
2 Scavenging Ooze
4 Knight of the Reliquary
Instant [4]
4 Swords to Plowshares
Sorcery [4]
4 Green Sun's Zenith
Artifact [3]
2 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Batterskull
Land [22]
1 maze of ith
2 Wooded Foothills
2 Cavern of Souls
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wasteland
4 Savannah
1 Karakas
2 Forest
2 Plains
60 cards

Split top four of the Philadelphia Legacy Series, Season 3 Champsionship. 44+ players with 6 rounds swiss.
I basically just splashed black for Deathrite Shaman and some extra weapons against combo.

23 Land

2 Savannah
2 Bayou
1 Scrubland
1 Forest
1 Plains
4 Windswepth Heath
3 Verdant Catacombs
4 Wasteland
1 Horizon Canopy
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Karakas
1 Maze of Ith
1 Dryad Arbor

26 Creatures

2 Noble Hierarch
3 Deathrite Shaman
3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4 Mother of Runes
4 Knight of the Reliquary
2 Aven Mindcensor
2 Qasali Pridemage
2 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Mirran Crusader
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Scryb Ranger

11 Other Spells
4 Swords of Plowshares
4 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Sylvan Library
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Sword of Feast and Famine


Sideboard
2 Thoughtseize
2 Lingering Souls
2 Engineered Explosives
1 Garruk Relentless
1 Life from the Loam
1 Mirran Crusader
1 Batterskull
1 Path to Exile
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Oblivion Ring

Round 1: Show and Tell (not sure which)
Lose in 2 games
match count: 0-1
Round 2: Team Italia (with Deathrite)
He got game loss for deck registration error and I won game 2.
matches: 1-1
Round 3: Esper Stoneblade
Win in 2 games
matches: 2-1
Round 4: Punishing Fire Jund
Win in 3 games
matches: 3-1
Round 5: Thalia Zoo
Win in 3 games
Matches: 4-1
Round 6: ANT
Win in 2 games.
Matches: 5-1

Top 8: UR Delver
Win in 3 games
Top 4: Split

MVPs:
Thalia
Knight of the Reliquary
Gaddock Teeg

LVPS:
Thoughtseize
Mirran Crusader

Notes:
The Scrubland was in because I couldn't get a 3rd Savannah before the tournament started, but they helped to make casting Thoughtseize easier.
Mirran Crusders were not impressive when Jund has access to both Bolts and Punishing Fire, so I think swapping out Crusaders for Stoneforges is better.
Thoughtseizes were not quite good enough against Show and Tell. It might actually be better to cut the Seizes for a 2nd Oblivion Ring and a CAvern of Souls in the sideboard. That would make the mana better by cutting the Scrubland since you don't need black on turn 1 anymore.

If you're running Deathrite Maverick, wouldn't you want 1-4 Abrupt Decay somewhere in your 75?

What are people's opinions of a slight blue splash for geist of st traft? seems like a good clock in combo situations as well as a good creature in general for fair matchups, especially with MoR backup.

Hey guys,
I won the LCL (liga catalana de legacy) last saturday. We were 110 players.

My current list (a bit updated to metagame):

4 [TE] Wasteland
1 [US] Gaea's Cradle
4 [A] Savannah
1 [U] Forest (3)
1 [7E] Plains (3)
4 [ON] Windswept Heath
3 [FUT] Horizon Canopy
1 [LG] Karakas
2 [AVR] Cavern of Souls
1 [DK] Maze of Ith
3 [UL] Mother of Runes
4 [WWK] Stoneforge Mystic
3 [ON] Weathered Wayfarer
3 [CFX] Knight of the Reliquary
3 [B] Birds of Paradise
2 [TSP] Scryb Ranger
3 [DKA] Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2 [LRW] Gaddock Teeg
2 [MBS] Phyrexian Revoker
2 [JU] Sylvan Safekeeper
1 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
1 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
4 [DS] AEther Vial
4 [A] Swords to Plowshares
1 [DS] Sword of Light and Shadow

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [LRW] Gaddock Teeg
SB: 3 [NPH] Surgical Extraction
SB: 4 [LRW] Oblivion Ring
SB: 2 [8E] Choke
SB: 3 [ZEN] Mindbreak Trap
SB: 2 [RTR] Rest in Peace


Pairings and results:

R1: punishing jund 2-0
R2: esper blade 2-1
R3: goblins 2-0
R4: death and taxes 2-0
R5: sneak show 2-0
R6: merfolks ID
R7: red blade ID
Top8: merfolks 2-0
Top4: goblins 2-1
Final: RUG 2-0

The deck was really strong, just losing 2 games in the whole day.

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Originally Posted by Arsenal

If you're running Deathrite Maverick, wouldn't you want 1-4 Abrupt Decay somewhere in your 75?

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I would try it out next time.
But, in theory, you would rather have your artifact/enchantment removal double up as a threat(Qasali Pridemage). It does have benefits over Oblivion Ring thought, like knocking out Counterbalance without problems or being able to destroy most creatures for only 2 mana.

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Originally Posted by ironclad8690

What are people's opinions of a slight blue splash for geist of st traft? seems like a good clock in combo situations as well as a good creature in general for fair matchups, especially with MoR backup.

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I'd splash blue for Spell Pierce and consider GoST a side benefit. :wink:

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Originally Posted by M@verick

Hey guys,
I won the LCL (liga catalana de legacy) last saturday. We were 110 players.

My current list (a bit updated to metagame):

4 [TE] Wasteland
1 [US] Gaea's Cradle
4 [A] Savannah
1 [U] Forest (3)
1 [7E] Plains (3)
4 [ON] Windswept Heath
3 [FUT] Horizon Canopy
1 [LG] Karakas
2 [AVR] Cavern of Souls
1 [DK] Maze of Ith
3 [UL] Mother of Runes
4 [WWK] Stoneforge Mystic
3 [ON] Weathered Wayfarer
3 [CFX] Knight of the Reliquary
3 [B] Birds of Paradise
2 [TSP] Scryb Ranger
3 [DKA] Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2 [LRW] Gaddock Teeg
2 [MBS] Phyrexian Revoker
2 [JU] Sylvan Safekeeper
1 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
1 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
4 [DS] AEther Vial
4 [A] Swords to Plowshares
1 [DS] Sword of Light and Shadow

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [LRW] Gaddock Teeg
SB: 3 [NPH] Surgical Extraction
SB: 4 [LRW] Oblivion Ring
SB: 2 [8E] Choke
SB: 3 [ZEN] Mindbreak Trap
SB: 2 [RTR] Rest in Peace


Pairings and results:

R1: punishing jund 2-0
R2: esper blade 2-1
R3: goblins 2-0
R4: death and taxes 2-0
R5: sneak show 2-0
R6: merfolks ID
R7: red blade ID
Top8: merfolks 2-0
Top4: goblins 2-1
Final: RUG 2-0

The deck was really strong, just losing 2 games in the whole day.

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I've really wanted to see someone post a "Green and Taxes" list in here. Congrats on the victory! What were the best and worst cards in your maindeck/sideboard in your experience?

I have tested the deck for long, so I think the 75 are the correct ones. I didnt use "mindbrak traps" during the tournament because the pairings, but i think they are necesary in order to beat unfair decks like all spells, storm, belcher, tim fins...
I specially liked my last addition to the deck, sylvan safekeeper, because it combines perfectly with aether vial, kotr, wayfarer...

Yeah, Sylvan Safekeeper seems reasonable. You can tutor for it and it has strong interactions with Wayfarer and Knight.

Why Birds over Hierarch though? Also what do you use Cradle for?

Cradle is the best land of the deck. It assures you equiping and attacking surprisingly in the same turn. Birds fits better with swords-equipment and becomes one of the main beaters in the deck.

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Originally Posted by M@verick

Cradle is the best land of the deck. It assures you equiping and attacking surprisingly in the same turn. Birds fits better with swords-equipment and becomes one of the main beaters in the deck.

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I test the maverick with aether vial, but sometimes i am not agresive enought, you does'nt feel it? I run a Batterskull in place of fire and ice because of this, the only cards in your list that can hurt is the knight and the birds/scryb with equipments, or i just talk shit? And the Sylvan Library dont miss it?
And why you dont use Bojuka Bog on side? With the Wayfares seems to be a good call.

I have no problem on killing my opponent. We have 7 win conditions (3 knights and 4 stoneforge). Fire-ice is betther than battserkull for long, and it combines perfectly with gaea´s cradle, like the other equpments. I miss sylvan library, but I guess that revoker or safekeeper do it better in the current metagame, and also fit better with vial and thalia.
Wayfarer- bojuka is only a good mix against dredge, and this is a pairing when I always side out wayfarers. To win decks like all spells, reanimator, ant... we need a kotr to do the bojuka useful.

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Originally Posted by M@verick

Hey guys,
I won the LCL (liga catalana de legacy) last saturday. We were 110 players.

My current list (a bit updated to metagame):

4 [TE] Wasteland
1 [US] Gaea's Cradle
4 [A] Savannah
1 [U] Forest (3)
1 [7E] Plains (3)
4 [ON] Windswept Heath
3 [FUT] Horizon Canopy
1 [LG] Karakas
2 [AVR] Cavern of Souls
1 [DK] Maze of Ith
3 [UL] Mother of Runes
4 [WWK] Stoneforge Mystic
3 [ON] Weathered Wayfarer
3 [CFX] Knight of the Reliquary
3 [B] Birds of Paradise
2 [TSP] Scryb Ranger
3 [DKA] Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2 [LRW] Gaddock Teeg
2 [MBS] Phyrexian Revoker
2 [JU] Sylvan Safekeeper
1 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
1 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
4 [DS] AEther Vial
4 [A] Swords to Plowshares
1 [DS] Sword of Light and Shadow

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [LRW] Gaddock Teeg
SB: 3 [NPH] Surgical Extraction
SB: 4 [LRW] Oblivion Ring
SB: 2 [8E] Choke
SB: 3 [ZEN] Mindbreak Trap
SB: 2 [RTR] Rest in Peace


Pairings and results:

R1: punishing jund 2-0
R2: esper blade 2-1
R3: goblins 2-0
R4: death and taxes 2-0
R5: sneak show 2-0
R6: merfolks ID
R7: red blade ID
Top8: merfolks 2-0
Top4: goblins 2-1
Final: RUG 2-0

The deck was really strong, just losing 2 games in the whole day.

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Hi, gratz for your winning! Do you have video´s to watch? I saw a lot of LCL Video´s in the past...
What was your reason to play weathered Wayfarer combined with aether vial at the moment? I would miss the Pridemages a lot!

Sorry, there are no videos avalaible. With respect to vials and wayfarers, I have always played that version, except the two moths after GSZ got printed.

I tested this version and have question:

How you deal with Umezawa's Jitte ?

How you deal with Punishing Fire ?

Wayfarer are great vs long grindy game when they are taking advantage in future or seeking silver bullets like bog/karakas.

I'm interested in you Punishing Jund MU since you faced one in tourney, can you remember how game goes ?

Lacking more removal then 4 StP is sometimes sad vs opposite Mother of Runes/Dark Confidant.

Drawing Vial in late is devastating :| specially vs heavy removal decks like Jund.

Dealing with jitte is usually not a problem. We have our own one, plus 4 stoneforge. In adittion, we have phyrexian revoker and maze of ith (which is only included because is close to be autowin against esper-blade). I never search jitte as first option, unless my purpose would be dealing with another jitte.

About punishing jund MU, i consisder it hard. From all decks I faced in the tourney, the hardest. But surprisingly I won easily. One game I could face an active confidant for 4 or 5 turns. Mother, scryb and stp stopped his goyfs, and wayfarer supplied me card advantatge enough to compensate his confidant. Later I drew a stoneforge, and with cradle, I equiped and attacked same turn for the win. Second game the mix safekeper-wayfarer, with a thalia, beated him easily. I had vial or BOP (cant remmeber) and I used multiple watelands, until I played a big Kotr who won. The mix Safekeepre- Kotr is perfect against Jund. In fact, I added safekkeper to improve Jund MU.

Otherwise, I usually side out thalias and gaddocks (for O. rings) against decks like merfolks, gobos, mirror, death and taxes... I also include 2 or 3 rings against Jund, in addition to 2xRIP, which are very good in the MU.

I am now playing the Punishing fire build, I want to know your opinions on what would be the best 4 CC to use. I am torn between Sigarda, Elspeth Knight-Errant, Thrun or Bloodbraid elf. If you were to choose only 1 or 2 to play, what would it be and why (Pros and cons please)?

I thank everyone in advance.

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Originally Posted by M@verick

Sorry, there are no videos avalaible. With respect to vials and wayfarers, I have always played that version, except the two moths after GSZ got printed.

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It's nice to see you in top again, congrats! And I'm happy that you left the black splash and returned to the classic version, however with Thalias in the main =)
But nevertheless, beating Jund, especially with punishing fires, is a hard work for this deck. The last times I played it, I even put 2 Oblivion rings to the maindeck, considering that show'n tell decks are also so popular. So a full set of o-rings in sb look reasonable. Rest in peace, however, looks strange to me. Do you side surgical extractions and rips against punishing jund or rip only?

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Originally Posted by diakocjay

I am now playing the Punishing fire build, I want to know your opinions on what would be the best 4 CC to use. I am torn between Sigarda, Elspeth Knight-Errant, Thrun or Bloodbraid elf. If you were to choose only 1 or 2 to play, what would it be and why (Pros and cons please)?

I thank everyone in advance.

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I think Bloodbraid is out of competion, because of the antisynergy with GSZ. I think Sigarda and Thrun are both fine bullets, both in the current Meta I value Sigarda higher, as there are several decks which are completely dead to it, while they still are able to handle Thrun (e.g. Jund and various BUG builds). I also really like Elspeth for the same MUs, but I run straight GW and I'm not sure how easily castable Elspeth is with the Fires manabase.