Neat. A 4 color fit deck with Atraxa and Leovold got 11th at the classic today.
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Neat. A 4 color fit deck with Atraxa and Leovold got 11th at the classic today.
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...?DeckID=109768
Hey that's me :D. I might post a report tomorrow but I am exhausted tonight. Although I will say Atraxa, leovold, Nissa Vital Force and kaya were all gas every time I saw them.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbone2016
Also got to resolve Big daddy sorin against miracles and plus him up reveal elspeth sun's champ and then the next turn plus up reveal kaya. That game was very over.
@mstephenson: Congrats on the result! Looking forward to that report!
http://i.imgur.com/xZpzPdd.png
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not to take away from Homeboy doing work.
updated bug fit
@Ricardio: 2 5-drops, 2 6-drops, a 7-drop and only 1 DRS?
Seems incredibly risky.
That 4c list is sweet, I play a very similar (of course) list without blue but it's hard to justify spending 100$ to acquire Leo and Atraxa online [emoji26]
E. Ricardio we should play some games sometimes! How do you like the biomancer?
The cost is ridiculous on each ATM. Hopefully that dies down.Quote:
Originally Posted by rubblekill
That's sounds good, bud. I have liked it this far. Makes everything an amazing clock. I was also thinking about alter ego.
Master bio and then master of the hunt is a combo lol
I didn't see Kaya in the posted list. Is it a 61st that SCG left off?Quote:
Originally Posted by mstephenson
Edit: While I'm here, I'll post a brief report about a 4-round event I played locally today. I am playing Brael's list from page 387 (The list he's locked into for league) but with E. Wit over 2nd Tracker (forgot to bring one) and added a 2nd MB Deed for 61. Overall went 2-2. I'll try to get better at remembering afterwards what happened for reports in the future.
Rd 1: Burn 2-1; Sorin, LoI was key in G3. Shriekmaw + Stronghold is gas against Eidolon in G2. I think I got lucky, I had a soul read multiple times with Therapy and the guy was new to Legacy/deck.
Rd 2: Elves 2-1; G1: I whiffed on Therapy for NO T1, flashed back for both Hoofs in his opener. Grindy game untl he concedes to Mentor and 2x Top. G2: Grindy until he NO's for hoof, lots of maneuvering for DS activations on both sides. G3: his mana development was poor, Mentor + 2x Top closes door in turns.
Rd 3: My buddy on Vial Goblins (he plays it in an aggro-control manner) Quick 0-2; Both games, he is able to establish quick clocks and Gempalm stunts DS, while Port keeps me from getting Deeds down in time.
Rd 4: Merfolk 0-2; G1, he lays the lord beats pretty fast and i try to stabilize with a Courser + Meren + Arbor, but I misplayed by not Therapying his force before Meren and he forces Meren. G2 Lord beats plust a Spreading Seas on a land. Can't find deed in time to stabilize.
Yay, someone was willing to try my list. It sounds like you have a very aggro oriented meta. I find myself losing to burn from time to time, but I would say it's about 50/50, Eidolon is definitely their best card against this build. But, their other creatures get shut down fast so I like naming Eidolon with Therapy.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDHackbert
Vial goblins is interesting, I've actually lost a couple times to the goblins decks. Basically they get to cheat mana, and short our mana development which is tough to fight. I think the same issue applies to Merfolk, the decks are just able to establish themselves faster. Our CA doesn't really start digging into more removal until turn 3 or 4, so until then we're operating at a deficit.
Something else I noticed is that all 4 rounds involved decks that have enough basics to get value off of Veteran Explorer. That can be a tough environment, because we need Vet to be 1 sided. If that's a typical tournament for you, I would definitely change the SB so that you can remove all 4 Vets.
How was Mentor for you? I've found that half the time it just automatically ends games, but the other half of the time it doesn't do much.
Thinking about running a Sneak Attack build:
- Drop Meren and Sidisi (they're good against matchups we already win)
- Move Primeval Titan to sideboard for Miracles
+1 Nissa, Vital Force
+1 Ob Nixilis, Reignited
+1 Liliana, the Last Hope
All help stabilize the board, provide card advantage, wreck Miracles.
Nissa and Liliana can rebuy Sneak targets, Nissa also rebuys Sneak Attacks
Lower mana curve
Meren's primary synergy in the sideboard (Shriekmaw, for Eldrazi) can be swapped for Blood Moon, as discussed last page.
Thoughts?
Mentor was good at closing the door on the elves player when i had double tops, and i had already stripped them with therapies. It was so-so in other situations where i had to scramble to make enough tokens not to die, but usually did.
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Sounds like a plan! I've been curious to see how Liliana, the Last Hope is in Nic Fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Navsi
I have made the switch to put Meren in the side and have Nissa VF main. So far enjoying it although I've only had a few games in my most recent league. But I have seen her -3 come up often since Deed is so juicy to grab back.
Typically if I want to hard cast a 6-drop then I usually prefer Inferno Titan, and I will very often go ahead and use a Fierce Empath the turn before to grab it if I don't have Sneak Attack available. So personally I'm fine with removing Primeval Titan from the main. Not too sure about having him in the side specifically for Miracles though. I've a feeling that there is better single card tech for that matchup.
Blood Moon does sound nice against the stuff that Meren is good against - let me know how it pans out.
Once I get home I will try to post my meager record since Eternal Weekend. It's something along the lines of 11-12 in matches. Sad that I'm under 50% win rate but I'm still finding myself making mistakes. And I feel the online meta is harsher for nic fit. I had a solid win against Elves last night that made me happy though.
Prime Time did feel like the weakest of the Titans in the Sneak n Fit shell. When you're behind Inferno or Grave are amazing at bringing you back, and both do more than adequate jobs of closing a game as well. I guess Prime Time is something like Meren number 2; it fetches up a land and Stronghold which means you can recur a Titan every turn and destroy your opponent while actually killing your opponent (which Meren doesn't actually do admittedly).Quote:
Originally Posted by square_two
I already cut Sidisi as well from my list (the list that Sean Brown posted on MTGGoldfish had 61 cards), it didn't feel that essential besides acting as a sac outlet and a catch-all tutor. I think Ob is non-essential for this deck though, Nissa and Lili have fantastic synergy, while Ob fills a similar role as Meren I feel. Great in grindy matchups (Shardless...) but not that great outside of that. I like Meren on the board then, but the deck is already vulnerable to grave hate.
But holy hell this Sneak n Fit list is fun. Being able to pull wins out of nowhere with a surprise Emrakul is always enjoyable. Take my comments with a grain of salt, only had like 3 games so far with this. The weekly legacy tournie for me is on Thursday though, I'll try it out then for sure.
Definitely! Heck I've clinched games by sneaking in Deathrite Shaman to drain at instant speed :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by truthfulcake
Ob went in because I feel like the deck is a little lacking in both hard removal and card advantage engines, and he brings both. Most of the other removal in the deck is unable to hit large creatures, since we are not able to play Swords or Path. He could definitely be dropped, though. I do think he's better than Meren into a lot of match ups, since he's a lot harder for Miracles to deal with and has more immediate impact on the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthfulcake
That was my list he posted, Prime Time felt great all day, as the recursion engine of Tower/Stronghold was really strong.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthfulcake
I'm also moving Meren out to the sideboard and cutting Nissa to the main. I would like to try Blood Moons in the sideboard though.
But yeah the deck is gas and is a lot of fun to play.
Those are valid points, but then I still have to find something else to cut (I'd rather not go to 61 cards). Maybe the Sakura Tribe Elder? I get the ramp factor is essential though, but it feels like the weakest card at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Navsi
It's a pretty swish list, I was very impressed by it. I was actually already considering putting some number of Blood Moons in the board for Drazi (I want to have some fun with Glissa, but Blood Moon is better admittedly). I'm gonna throw some Leylines of the Void in the board though, but there's like 2 reanimator decks minimum in my meta and some number of dredge I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by volrathxp
I like the recursion effect of Prime Time/Land combo, but I'd prefer Meren tbh. Less of a threat but much more value without sacrificing your draw step.
... That's actually pretty neat, I didn't even realise that was something I could do. I really hope to kill someone with that for maximum salt of being killed by a sneak attacked DRS.Quote:
Originally Posted by square_two
Steve also has value in being able to turn off Jitte triggers with an active Meren (block sacrifice for the win).Quote:
Originally Posted by truthfulcake
Really in all actuality, 61 cards isn't going to hurt you with a deck that ramps like we do. It's felt fine in all of my testing (which was pretty extensive heading up to the Classic).
I am going to have to remember this.Quote:
Originally Posted by square_two
Besides planeswalkers, what other cards can we use to maximize atraxa's proliferate? I can think of:
Scavenging ooze
Tireless Tracker
umezawa's jitte
Anything else that works well?
Good ol Steve taking one for the team and killing himself repeatedly to infuriate your opponent. I think he's my cut though, I never ran him before this in my Junk build. Between 4 Vets and 2 DRS I think there's plenty of ramp.Quote:
Originally Posted by volrathxp
I know the difference between 60 and 61 isn't a lot, but my inner spike wants to maximize my win percentages. Plus the deck only runs like 22 lands, I'd rather not dilute that anymore.
You can get cute with some of the Quests from original Zen block. I know one of the blue ones lets you tutor for a card instead of drawing a card. Hangarback walker seems like a better target than Scooze for a proliferate target though value wise, but then you're playing hangarback walker in legacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by zyren
You don't need that many Proliferate targets, really. She's fine just as a 4/4 flying vigilance lifelink deathtouch.
That said, I was running Jitte and Tracker, and should probably have had Ooze. Other options :
Gavony Township (colorless lands in a 4c deck are bad though)
Meren (better at more 4cmc dorks that lose to Karakas)
Ring of Evos Isle / Ring of Xathrid (Other Stoneforge targets are better)
Miscellaneous Energy based cards from Kaladesh - Dynavolt Tower is probably the closest, and it's still garbage.
Deathmist Raptor / Den Protector combo might be worth trying out, although they don't interact well with Zenith.
Plenty of other mediocre guys. Common theme is not interacting with enemy guys and being vulnerable to removal, but there's plenty of card advantage and threats out there. Yisan could be fun. Warden of the First Tree is a guy I've wanted to try before.
It could be fun to proliferate Endless One or Hangarback Walker. I've experimented with both in my build to reasonable success. Walker is extra fun since Atraxa puts you in blue to use a Trinket Mage package already. Both creatures just being X cost are nice in 4 color builds too since you don't need to worry about any mana fixing for them.
On the subject of Warden of the First Tree, I actually tried it out while messing with a Ranger of Eos package. It was worse than Endless One or Walker. I think the same holds true just on it's own merits. While you can GSZ it, and then grow it right away in the mid to late game I'm not a fan of cards like that. It's just investing too much in one body only to eat Swords to Plowshares with no additional value.
I've played Hangarback Walker in multiple Nic Fit builds. I've played it in BUG using Trinket Mage as a way to Mage into a body, I've played it in Pod as Ranger/Mage targets to jump the curve. I've played it in my current build, although I'm currently on Endless One instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthfulcake
When Swords to Plowshares is on a decline, Hangarback Walker is actually pretty good. It's absolutely ridiculous in the Delver matchups and it's a pretty fantastic combat trick alongside Phyrexian Tower (for extra fun, Two Towers it)
Don't forget Spike Feeder, Spike Weaver, and Verdurous Gearhulk for +1/+1 counters. I would be inclined to believe that a Nic Fit list with 4 GSZ, 1 Atraxa, 1 Sigarda, and 1 Hulk would be enough to take away any game of Magic. You could even toss in a single Thrun or Siege Rhino and any superfriends shell with lots of control elements would have a ridiculous amount of aggro to it.
I'm less inclined towards the bigger creatures. Any list with Atraxa in it is going to have access to finishers almost incidentally, and already has a Baneslayer equivalent along with probably Sigarda. I don't feel like dedicating many more slots to solely finishers is really worth it, since 90% of the time Atraxa and a Stoneforge -> Jitte is enough.
Incidentally are there any good ways of bouncing our own creatures that don't suck? Atraxa + Den Protector + Deathmist Raptor has me thinking now. Also good with Eternal Witness and Stoneforge.
Varolz, the Scar-Striped can be used as a zenitable sac engine and recycle the dead vet/strix/...Quote:
Originally Posted by zyren
Merens experience counters.Quote:
Originally Posted by zyren
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Both blue and green have the ability to return creatures to your hand as a cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Navsi
The first that comes to my mind is Temur Sabertooth but I'm pretty sure there's some better options that don't cost any mana.
So I've been having some small success with a Junk list similar to the one that did well at SCG balt. I want to tweak and update it and the sideboard is a trainwreck, but it looks like this:
Maindeck: 61
Lands: 22 (the weird fetch numbers are based around fetches I own, not the optimal ones)
3x heath
1x delta
1x Catacomb
1x Foothills
1x Mire
1x Flats
3 x Forest
3x Swamp
1x Plains
2x Bayou
1x Scrubland
1x Savannah
1x P. Tower
1x D. Arbor
1x Wasteland
Creatures: 16
4x Explorer
1x Deathrite
1x Scavenging Ooze
1x Sakura-Tribe Elder
1x E. Witness
3x Siege Rhino
1x Thrun the Last Troll
1x Meren of Clan Nel Toth
1x Sigarda Host of Herons
1x Thragtusk
1x Grave Titan
Non-Creatures: 22
4x Therapy
2x Sensei's Divining Top
1x Thoughtsieze
1x Innocent Blood
3x Abrupt Decay
3x Deed
1x Pulse
1x Vindicate
1x Dismember
1x Painful Truths
4x Green Sun’s Zenith
Planeswalkers: 1
1x Nissa, Vital Force
board: 15
2x thoughtsieze
2x Choke
3x Surgical Extraction
1x Gaddock Teeg
1x Krosan Grip
2x To the Slaughter
1x Pithing Needleso
1x Garruk Relentless
1x Ob Nixilis Reignited
Most of my testing is done at FNMs but this list has been putting up positive results. Nissa is a house and I genuinely feel like she is the walker that we needed, even more so than my previous champion Ob Nixilis. I'm also considering cutting the Grave Titan for a Tireless Tracker, keeping my top end at 5 and giving me another slot on my Green Sun curve.
As of late i've been finding the D&t match up difficult, even with three Deeds. I tend to get run over faster than I can handle their board. The list itself is pretty stock and I still run into the same problems versus combo, however I do have a positive win ratio against B/R reanimator.
Arguments for RiP vs Surgical Extraction in the board. I dislike Rest in Peace because I find I have to take out too much to accommodate it, but it can win games on its own. My local metagame is really all over the place so I have arguments for both, but it errs on the side of aggro/midrange and combo.
Looking a bit more, I didn't see anything on gatherer that seemed powerful enough. But I only looked at creatures, if there's a spell that has an unsummon as a cost it might be ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Navsi
If you're playing blue, would venser be out of the question?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brael
In terms of spells, there's Aether Spellbomb which we can use to bounce and cycle. Alternatively there's clutch of currents as a one mana option that could also be used to create a creature that combos with proliferate. There's also Far//Away which is a pretty nice 241.
I tried brewing an Atraxa superfriends list and I've concluded that the best option is a BUG deck with a single Savannah to hardcast Atraxa mainboard and have access to Teeg postboard. None of the PW compare to Lily and Jace, and Brainstorm is much better than StP in a Decay/Deed shell. Atraxa is great on its own and her proliferate ability becomes devastating when paired with Liliana (lots of sac or an early ultimate), Jace (tick up while brainstorming or 1 bounce per turn for Witness, Hulk, or Thragtusk maybe), Garruk (ticks up the fight ability while making 2/2s), or Gearhulk (grows everything every turn). Here's a first draft:
1 Dryad Arbor
4 Deathrite Shaman
2 Veteran Explorer
1 Eternal Witness
1 Leovold, Emissary of Trest
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Atraxa, Praetors' Voice
1 Thragtusk
1 Verdurous Gearhulk
4 Brainstorm
4 Abrupt Decay
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Green Sun's Zenith
3 Sensei's Divining Too
3 Pernicious Deed
2 Liliana of the Veil
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Garruk Relentless
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Misty Rainforest
2 Polluted Delta
2 Bayou
1 Tropical Island
1 Underground Sea
1 Savannah
2 Forest
2 Swamp
1 Island
//SB
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Reclamation Sage
2 Surgical Extraction
2 To the Slaughter
4 Negate
4 Thoughtseize
@Qweerios
I've actually been leaning towards going in the opposite direction, and running mostly white with a blue splash for Atraxa, Leovold, Tamiyo. I wasn't that impressed by JTMS myself when I played him, although I didn't see him that much.
Alright report time!
This was my first magic event that wasnt just our local scene and it was a blast and was really cool to see and meet people I have seen on camera before.
So I was playing
4 Veteran Explorer
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Deathrite Shaman
4 Siege Rhino
1 Eternal Witness
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
3 Path to Exile
3 Pernicious Deed
3 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Sorin, Grim Nemesis
1 Nissa, Vital Force
1 Kaya, Ghost Assassin
1 Sun Titan
1 Leovold, Emissary of Trest
1 Atraxa, Praetors' Voice
1 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Abrupt Decay
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath
2 Bayou
2 Savannah
1 Scrubland
2 Forest
1 Island
1 Underground Sea
2 Plains
1 Swamp
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Volrath's Stronghold
With a sideboard of
1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
1 Garruk Relentless
2 Surgical Extraction
3 Lost Legacy
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 ethersworn canonist
1 Qasali Pridemage
2 Painful Truths
1 Krosan Grip
1 Glissa, The Traitor
R1 Against Miracles
G1: He mana flooded pretty hard this game and died from 2 Rhino hits and 4 Rhino triggers. Not much to say other than he showed mentors
-4 Vet -4 Cabal -1 Atraxa -1 Path +1 Elspeth sun champ +1 Garruk relentless +3 lost legacy +1 Toxic Deluge +1 Qasali pridemage +1 Gaddock Teeg +2 Painful Truths
Vets and cabals are both bad in the match up and atraxa dies to karakas and path is medium.
Elspeth/Garruk both make dudes for days they have to answer.
LL answers jace cleanly and if you ever see the 2 towers can just exile all their threats with E wit.
Deluge answers mentor much less excited about this against non mentor decks
Qasalie is a nice green sunable counterbalance killer that hits for 3.
Gaddock teeg is annoying for them.
Painful Turths is always good in slow matchups
G2: mull to 5 and die mentor
G3: We both durdle for a while early as neither of us have anything to do I have an early top as well as him and then at some point he slams Jace and brainstorms and then passes. I then slam Big daddy Sorin and shoot jace. Next turn still on 6 mana I draw a Rhino and then activate top and see Elspeth, Rhino, something else. So I plus Sorin reveal Elspeth and then cast rhino he has dropped form 17 to 8. He does nothing and then passes back and I top on end step and Rhino, something else, and kaya. Draw rhino plus sorin reveal kaya then cast Rhino taking him from 7 to 0.
1-0 so far hoping all the combo decks lost their g1 to eldrazi or something.
R2 Against Jacob Hagen on Miracales
G1: I die to jace the usual way we die to jace.
Side boarded the same as befoer
G2: I LL Jace and then beat him to death with a 2/2 wolf from garruk left around after he Councils judgemented it.
G3: This game ended up going to time because it was super grindy. on turn 5 he plays jace and brainstorms after concils judementing my leovold, I top and see Garruk, Nissa, Elspeth. Untap play Garruk make a dude. He snap councils Garruk and brianstorms some more. I untap and cast nissa which he forces. He plays CB and passes. I untap play elsepth and make dudes and pass. He terminus the first dudes. I draw a green sun and have 2 in hand now. Make dudes and pass(Im he has Counter top at this point). SO at this point he untaps and play mentor and passes back after playing top and this is now turn 0. On my turn I draw deed. I try and path mentor he throws top on top and then chumps snap(on brainstorm earlier) and mentor token away to keep his jace alive. So with him tapped out and with top on top I play deed with 2 mana left open and pass. He untaps and draws his second copy of wear tear(he had multiple tops at this point) and wear tears my deed. I pop it on 0(This might have been a missplay maybe I should of kept my tokens around not really sure) then shows me the second top and makes 6 tokens and kill elspeth. I draw nothing and die due to him having counterspell.
1-1 Bleh Feel like I should of had that game was kinda frustring that he saw Councils and his 1 of snap twice and then both wear tears as he used one earlier to make a mentor token and that game 1 he saw all 4 forces to stop me from answer jace in any meaningful fashion.
R3 Against Grixis Delver
G1: He sees 3 delvers in row and 3 bolts. I ended up shooting the first 2 but they all flipped quickly and I died just as quick.
-1 Soring Grim Nemsis, -1 Nissa, vital force +1 Toxic Deluge +1 Glissa
The fat walkers are really bad against delver as they are hard to cast and hard to protect.
Deluge kills their board which is nice
Glissa blocks gurmag and cant be hit by flying delvers like nissa can.
G2: We get going for a little bit and I answer all of his stuff and top out for something i dont remember what. Next turn he winter orbs me. Shit. I proceed to draw top and play top. Next turn draw decay. Damn I am good at this game. Turn after that blow up orb on his upkeep and drown him fat shit(pretty sure he died to a no value sun titan this game but I could be wrong)
G3: Same situation as game one we grind for a little bit and then he winter orbs me again, this time I have the decay in hand and draw the second land to cast it on his next turn and he proceeds to die to random fat shit.
2-1 so far not feeling too hot about my chance because there is combo out the ass for whatever reason 2 enchantress 2 storm 2 sneak and show 2 reanimaters and they where all 1-1 or better going into round 3
R4 Against Harley Forrest on B/R reanimater
G1: He makes T1 Grisslebrand. I die
-3 deed -3 decay +3 LL +2 surgical +1 deluge
Deeds and decays all suck in this matchup
LL well if I live long enough I can stop him cold
Surgicals are great
Deluge can kill their fatties and give us time
G2: I surgical his dude and he dies to a scooze. He could of won this game I believe because I cast a scoze of 1 land shaman(which he said he should of decayed it main phase) and the he proceeds to just cast random shit and grow my scoze. But later on he cast exhume. SO if he save all this with his 5 lands he could of put 3+ dudes in yard and cast exhume.
G3: I have an opening 7 of 4 land vet scoze and Atraxa. I think there is an argument to keeping this hand because he isn't b/u reanimater he can reanimate 1 dude quickly and then we should hopefully be able to get scoze out to stop future reanimations and trade atraxa with what ever he reanimated. Still doesnt beat T1 Gbrand so I pitch it but it turns out he had a slower hand with entomb exume and and I mulled to 4 because 5 and 6 were nonfunctional and keep 2 land vet scoze and then die to the gbrand on turn 2.
2-2 This matchup feels really rough. I think we can have some sideboard configuration that isnt aweful that makes this matchup better. Deathrite does not feel good against this deck at all. Im thinking the Toughtsizes over LL would help a lot for this matchup.
R5 Against Tezzerator
G1: He plays like 8 million cards while trying to empty his hand for bridge so he doesnt die to the vet plus rhino. I then cast deed and he is left with one permanent after his artifact lands and glimmer voids blow up.
-4 Cabal therapy +2 surgical +1 Grip +1 Qasali
Therapy felt really bad in this match up as he felt like a grindy deck
Grip/Qasali Answers to Bridge
surgical was because I know they play thopter sword in modern so I brought it in not really sure of what to expect but knowing the use the yard a lot.
G2: We both mull to 4. Im pretty sure this heavily favors us as they have to quickly kill us which is hard. I end up having 2 lands vet with path green sun in hand. He then cast a helm and I path my vet get a 3rd land and then top deck a Land get qasali with G sun and pass. He Collective brutality for all 3 modes(he has a bridge at this point) pitching leyline of the void and some other card. I blow up the helm(should of hit the bridge) and surgical the leyline which was his last card in hand. I blow up bridge at some point and then he dies.
3-2 Deed is hilariously good against that deck. At this point im live for top 16
R6 Against Jadine(think im spelling this right) on 4C delver
G1: I answer her early threats and then go Rhino into Atraxa into Sigarda. She has seen enough and we go to board.
Same as with Grixis Delver
G2: She really tempos me out of this game seeing a lot of counter magic along the way. I think I messed up when I took a turn off to put rhino on top of my library with stronghold. While rhino is really really good against delver and looked good on the board state and think answer more of her threats would have lead to me having a better chance later on.
G3: She plays early threats and I answer them with a deed and get some vet trigger(s). She then proceeds to play goyf, truename and deathrite with no cards left in hand and me with one. I have E wit in hand. I untap and play E wit return deed and play deed. Pass turn and chump goyf take 3 and then wipe the board and proceed to win from there.
Ended the day on 4-2 Tied for 10th( the breakers for the 9,10 and 11th were all really close) rather happy about showing up to my first non local legacy event and first time with nic fit and making top 16. Deck performed pretty well with the only time being mana screwed being when I mulled to 5 round 1 and then only time I was color screwed was against wastelandicales where I fetched the 2nd bayou making it the 3rd black and 4th green instead of getting second white and then drawing sun titan.
If there are any questions about card choices, side board choices, or anything in general do ask because ill be hanging around.
Edit: Quick edit with something I want to add Atraxa and l kaya were both great and kaya being amazing every time I drew her. I would recommend trying her out.
Also for anyone not running Nissa vital force the card is amazing, although she ate a force every time I cast her during the event
And @zyrenQuote:
Originally Posted by TTX
I really like her just to be a flying batterskull that trades with anything. I dont really feel like she alone is compelling enough to care about the proliferate ability although ticking up our walkers in the fair matchups is pretty sweet got to ult a nissa twice today against shardless because of her!
Nicely done. Great report.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstephenson
On B/R Reanimator, Thoughtseize is a must, because you need to rip their hand to shreds to prevent them from doing their thing. They are way faster than you with a good hand, so this is really important to get rid of their reanimation spells in hand. I've even Surgicaled Exhumes before in this matchup because it feels so good to cut them off an avenue of reanimation.
This deck is semi popular locally so I see it enough. It's pretty easy to fight through once you know what their game plan is. Also the deck is very opening hand dependent so if they mulligan hard, you're headed in the right direction.
How much better is the matchup with thoughtsiezes?Quote:
Originally Posted by volrathxp
Thoughtsieze makes the match much less scary and way more winnable. If you leave them stranded with creatures in hand or without a reanimated spell then you have more time to get your hate pieces or your finishers online.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstephenson
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Originally Posted by zyren
That. The card just has a bunch of cool, simple keyword abilities. Proliferate is pretty much flavour text. Any value it might give you is incidental, no need to specifically build for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstephenson
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