I think maybe Wild Growth and Fertile ground might be faster, or maybe Mana Flare! Lol. I'm gonna proxy this thing and play around with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
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I think maybe Wild Growth and Fertile ground might be faster, or maybe Mana Flare! Lol. I'm gonna proxy this thing and play around with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
Basically Enchantress with a combo finish?Quote:
Originally Posted by Broham
Srsly, it goes in W/B.dec. Feed it with Bob or Night's Whisper or some junk. Think of the face punching.
4 Aether Vial
4 Dark Confidant
3 - 4 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Thoughtseize
2 - 4 Inquisition of Kozilekistan
4 Tidehollow Sculler/Gatekeeper of Mala-whatsit
3 - 4 Vindicate/O-Ring/Sinkhole/dumb stuff
3 - 4 Sign in Blood
1 Jitte
1 SoFI
1 SoFF
2 - 3 manlands? since SoFF will untap them with aplomb
Maybe some MoR because I roll that way. Aether Vials to make ur guys cheap as free; also makes SFM give -1 to the cost of the Swords. Then you have crazy turn 4s where you play out the correct Sword of Something or Other; if it's SoFI, great. If it's SoFF, Bob and/or Sign in Blood feed your hand, then you get to like, draw Gatekeepers and Sinkholes during the precombat main, swing for some damages and then untap and slap a Vindicate on their permanents.
The thing about the Swords of Things and Stuff is that they tend to fall into that "toolbox" realm, along with Umezawa's Jitte and, depending on who you ask, Basilisk Collar :( So I don't think it's a good idea to expect a deck to just build itself around it, even if the untap looks like something that you can use to power a combo or something. I don't think you can really do that, I do think you can use it when SoFI or Jitte is the wrong play though - and I do think it makes the other two Swords of Bert and Ernie look really lousy. Aside from SoLS's pro-whiteness I think the capacity to maintain tempo is better in Sword of Feast and Famine, since a lot of the time Sword of Light and Shadow is just Healing Salve on a stick. And it's been sort of a forgone conclusion that Sword of Bears and Milling is mostly there for the pro-green aspect, the other abilities tend to be only okay or just bad for you.
Can't believe someone actually beat me to posting this combo. 7 Lesbian points for you, my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Devil
While not terribly practical or dangerous, this combination is actually not all that improbable in, say, a Red-White Angel Stompyish manabase. Turn two Soltari Thingy, turn three Agg Assault, Turn four, Tomb, SoFF (Pronounced Saw-fuh-fuh-fuh-fuh. Calling this one now), equip, swang, rinse, lather, repeat, dead.
As long as we're being strangely cute about the whole 4-card combo Agg Assault thing, Exalted will trigger a bunch with repeated attacks and Noble Hierarch is in the (apparently) right colors, if evil minions like Silhana Ledgewalker are actually being considered.
From the same set, Skargan Pit-Skulk is hard to block when its power is high; a Hierarch-and-Sword boosted Pit Skulk would have to be blocked by something non-Green/Black and with power over 4, which seems like a shitty Venn diagram to me. It's a lousy card, but Ledgewalker isn't much better heh
Another impractical way to get the Assault/SoFF combo going:
Playing Elves + Gaea's Cradle + Skyshroud Elf for mana filtering. Elves have tons of mana anyway which they could use to activate Assault outside the sword combo as well.
Enchantress already is Enchantress with a combo finish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
This was actually my first Legacy (by which I mean 1.5) deck. With Wirewood Channeler. And maindeck Ritual of Subdual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
I wonder about about running this guy with Spinerock Knoll (or Windbrisk Heights).
I guess the untap lands bit could be pretty good in BW vial. I can't wait for the RW sword to come out.
Based on the last 2 swords, I don't think the RW sword will be as good as the original 2...
The effects may suck, but having protection from the two most relevant removal colors is still very good by itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrjumbo03
I highly suspect the RW sword is going to shine, something as simple as:
pro R/W, +2/+2, Lightning helix seems to make sense and yet be a tremendously powerful equipment. (People may ask why Bolt instead of a shock effect but that's to balance Healing Salve with Whisper of the Muse lol).
Not going to happen. SoFI already has a Shock effect, and SoLS already has a gain life effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Metalwalker
Since burn effects are already taken, the RW Sword is probably going to have a bad red effect. But on the other hand, it's probably going to have a better white effect than 'gain 3 life.'
I think the red side will be a Threaten effect and the white side will be a tap effect.
Threaten effect will be weak because the combat phase is already done... although i see tap target permanent it doesn't untap next untap phase as a possibility ala ajani vengeant...
Doesn't work because all swords can generate card advantage in some way. White could be an exile effect (think StP/PtE) while the red one is completely useless. That, or artifact/enchantment destruction in some kind of way.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrjumbo03
I'll bet it destroys noncreature artifacts/enchantments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
The RW sword may be the most ridiculous, the last card of cycles like these usually is. Then again, there's still the allied pairs...
People forget that these Swords are actually terrible if the opponent has removal, because they can cast it in response to the equip and now you've sunk tons of mana into virtually nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
If all you want is to nullify removal, just run Lightning Greaves.
Speculation on the RW sword is fun, however pointless.
Imo, the abilities will suck because of the pro red and white and +2/+2. This combined with a PTE or STP effect? zomg I don't think that is even close to being a possibility.
For RW I would be stoked to have stone rain and demystify although that's too strong as well.
I think that shatter + demystify would be totally amazing and therefore I can't see this as a possibility either.
It's hard to come up with something that is playable that isn't totally broken.
I'd play it if the effects were burst of energy and tremble
Back to the GB sword?