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Is it though? It seems like they just do whatever they want when it suits themQuote:
Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit
https://gatherer.wizards.com/Handler...5003&type=card https://gatherer.wizards.com/Handler...2278&type=card https://gatherer.wizards.com/Handler...5927&type=card
I don't think it's about Standard, I'm saying some deck in some format would have broken some generalized "bounce your own walkers for value" combo if it meant anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit
I'm not convinced an animated UB walker is a color break but if it were, it's Blue, so it doesn't matter.
Whole lot of not UB Planeswalkers here that don't animate themselves...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew
Only Arlin can even attack here and that one is neither blue or black.
It's a combo that's never been possible in standard before so who knows how powerful it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by TsumiBand
In eternal formats it's never five because there's no PW worth animating.
I guess it's perspective then, cause I see all five colors represented (white being a given cause Gideon) on Planeswalkers with an ability that adds creature to the typelineQuote:
Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit
That's like saying white has direct damage because it can deal damage to attacking creatures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew
It's pretty obvious that animating artifacts isn't the same thing. Or how grist not being a creature on the battlefield is the whole point here...
E: you're basically saying here that Gideon 0's are the same as turn to frog or ensoul artifact.
Breaking the color pie is clearly Blue, this discussion is moot
Can you support this assertion with any evidence other than it hasn't happened yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit
My position is that animating walkers doesn't have an established place in the color pie. WotC puts it where ever they feel like, mostly for flavor reasons. My evidence is the cards they printed across the 5 colors (or 4 since Grist isn't a creature on the battlefield) and that "animating planeswalkers" is absent from the information linked below from WotC.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/article...pie-2021-10-18
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...57/846/77d.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew
Actually, every color can do it, it's just that blue makes the other colors forget about their sections so it just steals everything for itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by TsumiBand
< +2 >: Jace Darkvengeant becomes a 2/3. You may look an opponent in the eye and assert that you have an instant card in your hand. (You must keep a straight face.) If you do, double strike and haste become blue abilities. (This effect lasts indefinitely and for all of Magic.) Jace gains flying and a blue ability of your choice until end of turn. Untap whatever you want. (Untapping is blue.)
I want you to think really really hard about what you're asking here and how you've already answered the questionQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew
You were doing so good, but you forgot blue is also the color of tapping.Quote:
Originally Posted by BirdsOfParadise
Apparently these are on mythicspoiler for a few days now:
https://mythicspoiler.com/neo/cards/thekamiwar.jpghttps://mythicspoiler.com/neo/cards/...demanifest.jpg
So sagas and transformers are back.
Seems like both are evergreens now.
Also:
More awkward lingo shortcuts.Quote:
Discharge of Flame
XR
Instant
Discharge of Flame deals X damage to target creature or planeswalker. If you control a modified creature as you cast this spell, deal X plus 2 damage instead. (creatures that are equipped, enchanted, or have counters are modified)
< -6 >: You gain an emblem with "You may adjust the physical positions of cards on the battlefield you do not own or control as though you owned and controlled them" and "Whenever an opponent betrays impatience at their stuff being moved around the table, you may end the turn." (Calling a judge for slow play betrays impatience.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie
Clever way to make Mythic fatties that can't be cheated into play. Make them the flip side of a noncreature card that has some delayed transform trigger (Saga Chapter 3).Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoid
Broken "attacks" trigger, can't be Sneak Attacked.
You redeemed yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by BirdsOfParadise
https://i.redd.it/jci91ix07i981.jpg
Untapped white producing land and removal.
Land is interesting, you'd have to be mono white or close to it to risk wasteland exposure though - maybe death & taxes?
Cool that Weathered Wayfarer for example can now tutor an (uncounterable) removal spell
I think it compares pretty favourably to the 4th white producing utility land in D&T (karakas in 80 cards or canopy in 60 cards) as a 1 of.