BG Eightgoyf, eh? Could be interesting.
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BG Eightgoyf, eh? Could be interesting.
MH3 has an entire Goyf tribal theme. Waiting for the Pyrogoyf (:3::r:, whenever it or another Lhurgoyf ETBs, that creature deals damage equal to its power to any target) to be confirmed real, but it seems reasonable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goaswerfraiejen
Well, have to get all the sad Modern Jund players into Commander somehowQuote:
Originally Posted by Barook
I think one of the commander decks is Jund Goyf Tribal.
MH3 appears to have a tribal theme but the tribes are all esoteric. Goyfs, eldrazi. Who knows what the others will be.
Wizards apparently thought the term tribal was too offensive, now it's called typal (or kindred, if you want the card type)Quote:
Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit
It's not and they didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath of Pie
If you're going to do this, meme correctly.
https://i.imgur.com/PeSG8iJ.jpg
Not sure what you're pushing back on for "memeing", but they did change Tribal to Kindred.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/an...r-on-mtg-arena
Unless you meant something else, I guess?
I guess Kindred is better then their proposed second choice: Gang Gang.Quote:
Originally Posted by PirateKing
They changed it not because it was offensive (it isn't) but because it has a negative history.Quote:
Originally Posted by PirateKing
They also did not make it "typal". No one should ever let the word "typal" escape their lips. Typal was the in-house placeholder for whatever they start calling decks that share a thing.
Kindred is the replacement for the type tribal.
I thought they abandoned Tribal/Kindred because was kind of a dogshit mechanic? :eyebrow:
It is also really stupid in terms of what should be type-formerly-known-as-tribal and what shouldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
A lot of spells should be errata'd to get a type but they couldn't bother.
They are overtly trying to inject an additional card type without deckbuilding costs to pump Goyf. Blatant power creep without reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoid
Outside Goyf, was Tribal ever useful? Goblins to search for Weirding or Tarfire?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
Yeah but they brought it back for mh2 and it's part of the same block of changes they have for khans on arenaQuote:
Originally Posted by Barook
Sprite and bitterblossomQuote:
Originally Posted by Cire
Prowess of the fair & Birchlore ranger / heritage druidQuote:
Originally Posted by Cire
Haakon, Stromgald Scourge + Nameless Inversion was in Standard and also Legacy viable maybe 15 years ago. Inversion is a "knight" spell so you can cast it unlimited times from graveyard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cire
All is Dust costs less with Eye of Ugin and Eldrazi Temple. Saw Modern play.
Rebels could fetch Bound in Silence. Saw Standard play.
Lignify is indestructible with Timber Protector, grows Dauntless Dourbark, and can be freecast from Leaf-Crowned Elder. Saw Block play.
If they want it to matter they'd need to errata all the cards it makes sense for, but they don't appear to want to bother, so it remains incredibly niche and stupid. Meanwhile the cowards refuse to print a new Lightning Rift or put Astral Slide/Drift on Arena.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cire
Slide let nonblue decks win Worlds twice in a row and the blue supremecists at WotC have never forgiven it.
Post-tribal cards tend to have "[creature type] creature card" like Deathbellow War Cry instead of the "[creature type] card" that older cards like Goblin Matron have. So it feels like they're trying to make tribal irrelevant as much as they can. (Or maybe it's that "creature" is shorter than "permanent".)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cire
Maybe it's just future proofing since Deathbellow War Cry puts them onto the battlefield, so "Kindred Sorcery - Minotaur" would put front and center all those weird Comprehensive Rules scenarios where the wrong type of card is used in otherwise benign situations.
But that's giving WotC a lot of credit /shrug