Re: Dark Ascension in Legacy
Hopefully the last 1/3 comes through with some playables.
I'm seeing maybe adding a copy of Sorin to my Legacy collection for a Token version of BW Deadguy and probably a copy of the Cage for any Trinket Mage / Enlightened Tutor packages - ie Thopters. Outside those cards as 1-2 ofs I don't see anything with legitimate Legacy potential.
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Wow, what a disappointing set. This even looks worse than Worldwake in terms of value cards.
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I so wanted a werewolf deck to be at least standard playable. that is definitely not the case. :sadface:
at least they made wbg midrange playable. I mean, it's token and equipment based obviously, but still, better than we've seen in awhile for that color combo.
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So close to being Hive Mind #2, but I guess WotC intentionally included 'may' to prevent that use.
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The way I see it, a total of 3 cards are legacy playable from DA:
Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
Grafdigger's Cage
Faithless Looting
Did I miss any? Those would all be fringe cards, too...nothing earth-shattering like Snapcaster, Delver, and Liliana were from Innnistrad.
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Mr. Safety
The way I see it, a total of 3 cards are legacy playable from DA:
Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
Grafdigger's Cage
Faithless Looting
Did I miss any? Those would all be fringe cards, too...nothing earth-shattering like Snapcaster, Delver, and Liliana were from Innnistrad.
Here are other fringe playables starting from what I think is the most likely to be played:
Thalia will definitely see some play somewhere (I'm guessing more than Sorin).
Thoughtscour has possibilities in some decks, especially with its positive effects with your or opponent's brainstorms.
Elbrus, the Binding Blade because Stoneforge Mystic targets should never be overlooked.
Gravecrawler has decent recursion.
Lingering Souls is possible in BW token-y type decks.
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Mr. Safety
The way I see it, a total of 3 cards are legacy playable from DA:
Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
Grafdigger's Cage
Faithless Looting
Did I miss any? Those would all be fringe cards, too...nothing earth-shattering like Snapcaster, Delver, and Liliana were from Innnistrad.
you missed Thalia, Guardian of Thraben.
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I don't think Sorin is going anywhere.
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bruizar
I don't think Sorin is going anywhere.
It will see play for sure at least for the next few months, it deserves at least a shot, and I can see many BW players trying in place of (or alongside) Elspeth. I'm not sure if he will be a mainstay in the format, though.
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workingdude
Here are other fringe playables starting from what I think is the most likely to be played:
Thalia will definitely see some play somewhere (I'm guessing more than Sorin).
Thoughtscour has possibilities in some decks, especially with its positive effects with your or opponent's brainstorms.
Elbrus, the Binding Blade because Stoneforge Mystic targets should never be overlooked.
Gravecrawler has decent recursion.
Lingering Souls is possible in BW token-y type decks.
I also think Strangleroot Geist, Curse of Exhaustion, Havengul Lich and Midnight Guard all have an outside shot in Legacy as well.
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Strangleroot Geist merits a try in G-heavy quick aggro. Anything fairly costed with Undying looks like a wonderful Berserk/Fling target to me.
Thalia will be played. Gravecrawler will probably be played in some ETB combo-y fashion that I can't think of.
BW Deadguy players that liked Spectral Procession will probably prefer Lingering Souls.
Curse of Exhaustion costs too much, although the price is right, but I think people will try it anyway.
Grim Backwoods is expensive, but recursive. Seems like a maybe in a deck that can recur guys like Vengevine - but if you're recurring Vengevine you prolly don't need to pay 4 to draw a card, so maybe I dunno.
Elbrus will be played and no one will care after a while. People will be weird and beg to make it their General in EDH.
Sad face at the lack of a two-color Human lord to complete the cycle.
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Drogskol Captain?
Annoying Spirit Lord Kira on Crack? Too bad it, itself, doesn't have hexproof =/
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Drogskol Captain?
Annoying Spirit Lord Kira on Crack? Too bad it, itself, doesn't have hexproof =/
That's probably the only thing that keeps it from being completely fucking bonkers.
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Kira/Phantasmal Image + Drogskol Captain is absolutely awesome though. If only not all awesome spirits were three drops (spectral procession, geist of saint traft).
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Saving Grasp - U
Instant
Return target creature you own to your hand.
Flashback: W
Could very well be better than Momentary Blink (as in actually playable) what with the Flash utility creatures in those colors and being easier to hold back mana for. The ability to replay Snapcaster twice for that mana investment looks obnoxious.
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Infinitium
Could very well be better than Momentary Blink what with the Flash utility creatures in those colors and being easier to pay for. The ability to replay Snapcaster twice for that mana investment looks obnoxious.
At that point wouldn't you rather be running another business spell though? The rigamarole you go through to bounce him again could have just been the spell you wanted to play. vOv
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Infinitium
Could very well be better than Momentary Blink (as in actually playable) what with the Flash utility creatures in those colors and being easier to hold back mana for. The ability to replay Snapcaster twice for that mana investment looks obnoxious.
Blink is still better because the cost to bounce and then replay a guy is probably more than two mana. Depending on the creature, Blink's flashback cost may also be more efficient, but probably not.
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Aggro_zombies
Blink is still better because the cost to bounce and then replay a guy is probably more than two mana. Depending on the creature, Blink's flashback cost may also be more efficient, but probably not.
It works pretty well with Aether Vial, though.
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capitacom
Kira/Phantasmal Image + Drogskol Captain is absolutely awesome though. If only not all awesome spirits were three drops (spectral procession, geist of saint traft).
There's actually some other decent Spirits in Esper.
Spectral Lynx
Tallowisp
Dimir Infiltrator
Phantom Nomad
Still seems lacking, but Tallowisp and the Phantom guys rocked it in "Spirit Stompy" back in Extended at one point. Gaining a Lord that makes your guys hexproof and damage proof is pretty dirty.
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from Cairo
Still seems lacking, but Tallowisp and the Phantom guys rocked it in "Spirit Stompy" back in Extended at one point. Gaining a Lord that makes your guys hexproof and damage proof is pretty dirty.
Tallowisp + Hexproof does instead sound very good with the right enchantments (like Pariah - which is a gigantic "Fuck you!" to damaged-based decks if you use Phantom guys).
Too bad there aren't enough good spirits to actually support a deck.