Re: [Official] Bitching About Prices and Reprints Thread
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Originally Posted by
nedleeds
Yeah this is interesting. I blame stupid modern hype and speculators. Classic buyout. Such a bad card lol.
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Originally Posted by
Davran
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Yep.
I'm afraid WotC definitely lost any possibility how to do anything about the prices, even if they'd care at first, which I doubt.
As they've made the RL nonsense back in 1990's and then further cemented the whole thing, I can't see them starting a massive prints of staples now when they are far above 50 bucks for a crap like City of Traitors. (Not even speaking about duals and Vintage stuff.)
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Originally Posted by
prateta
Yeah this is interesting. I blame stupid modern hype and speculators. Classic buyout. Such a bad card lol.
It's not legal in Modern. But damn, that is probably the craziest and nonsensical spike I've ever seen.
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Originally Posted by
JACO
You guys don't really know much about the secondary market for cards, huh?
To begin with, Tarmogoyf isn't really a $60 card currently, so I don't know where you're getting your information from. Just because an online store like SCG might charge that much for it doesn't mean that is the price of the card. The average or 'street' price is closer to $40-44 dollars right now.
Regarding the original poster's question, Tarmogoyf will likely stay around $40 even after the current Extended PTQ season, and will stay at that price point (give or take a couple of bucks) until it rotates out of Extended for good (October 2013). Once that happens it will likely drop down to $15-20 max (unless the US currency is extremely devalued in the next 4 years, in which case you'll likely have greater problems than finding cheap Tarmogoyfs).
Looks like something ugly happened to dollar.
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Originally Posted by
Bed Decks Palyer
Looks like something ugly happened to dollar.
More aptly, Modern format happened and breathed new life into Tarmogoyf, extending it's "$40" premium and increasing it even higher.
Nice cherry picking btw.
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Originally Posted by
Shawon
It's not legal in Modern. But damn, that is probably the craziest and nonsensical spike I've ever seen.
- Crimea gets invaded by the Russians
- Strangehold suddenly spikes in price on the very same day for no particular reason
Coincidence? I think not. Better buy Rocket Launchers right now. #mtgfinance
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Im buying all the Uncle Istvan!
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Originally Posted by
Shawon
It's not legal in Modern. But damn, that is probably the craziest and nonsensical spike I've ever seen.
Stranglehold is probably the best red card in EDH and it's an asymmetrical effect that can fit into any deck. So, there's that. I bought a few a couple weeks back and there just weren't that many left online and they were all still 5 dollars like they had been for nearly 3 years. It seems like the market adjusted. No one is going to speculate on cards solely playable in EDH. (Probably.)
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Originally Posted by
Amon Amarth
[...] No one is going to speculate on cards solely playable in EDH. (Probably.)
Oh yes they will, EDH specs are probably the most volatile. Who would have thought that utter crap like Avacyn, Angel of Hope would cost more than Griselbrand (from the same set)?
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Originally Posted by
allek
Oh yes they will, EDH specs are probably the most volatile. Who would have thought that utter crap like Avacyn, Angel of Hope would cost more than Griselbrand (from the same set)?
Precisely.
Competitive players operate on this idea that their percentage of the population creates enough demand to claim responsibility for the bulk of the price-setting. Maybe they do most of the innovation, maaaybe? Who knows where ideas come from. But the minute a card breaks, of course everyone wants it. If only with the wrong motivation... "God if I just had a playset of Chastise, those fuckers at FNM would never question my fighting stance...!"
sent from phone, don't be a dick
Re: [Official] Bitching About Prices and Reprints Thread
Sale Price (SCG)
Arid Mesa = 60 ~~ 1 in Stock
Marsh Flats = 60 ~~ Out of Stock
Misty Rainforest = 100 ~~ Out of Stock
Scalding Tarn = 100 ~~ Out of Stock
Verdant Catacombs = 60 ~~ 38 in Stock
*sigh*
SCG
Buylist Values
Arid Mesa = 40
Marsh Flats = 40
Misty Rainforest = 70
Scalding Tarn = 70
Verdant Catacombs = 40
Foil Buylist
(f) Arid Mesa = 60
(f) Marsh Flats = 60
(f) Misty Rainforest = 100
(f) Scalding Tarn = 100
(f) Verdant Catacombs = 80
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Originally Posted by
allek
Oh yes they will, EDH specs are probably the most volatile. Who would have thought that utter crap like Avacyn, Angel of Hope would cost more than Griselbrand (from the same set)?
Uh, no one is speculating on Avacyn and not just because it's stupid to speculate on such an expensive card. You seem to be confusing "casual (not just EDH) players and collectors love these types of cards" with "I'm going to purposefully buyout a card because if I do so it will rise in price/is severely undervalued/etc.". The former is basic basic supply and demand where the latter is speculation. EDH cards aren't really volatile in the way that the card prices are jumping all the time but are mostly just due to market correction. I wouldn't be surprised if EDH is the fastest growing format because it's very fun and very easy to get into. If everyone needs a Tooth and Nail for their green decks and Demonic Tutor for their black decks, there just aren't enough to go around at the prices they're listed at which is why a lot of older cards playable in these formats go up. No nefarious schemes needed.
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Originally Posted by
Megadeus
Sale Price (SCG)
Arid Mesa = 60 ~~ 1 in Stock
Marsh Flats = 60 ~~ Out of Stock
Misty Rainforest = 100 ~~ Out of Stock
Scalding Tarn = 100 ~~ Out of Stock
Verdant Catacombs = 60 ~~ 38 in Stock
*sigh*
SCG
Buylist Values
Arid Mesa = 40
Marsh Flats = 40
Misty Rainforest = 70
Scalding Tarn = 70
Verdant Catacombs = 40
Foil Buylist
(f) Arid Mesa = 60
(f) Marsh Flats = 60
(f) Misty Rainforest = 100
(f) Scalding Tarn = 100
(f) Verdant Catacombs = 80
their stock is wiped because it's all at the GP site or packed to move to the GP site. They can charge notably higher to people picking up singles last minute. Their buy prices will possibly drop back down again after as well. They're aggressively buying the cards at the GP. The buylist price change ahead of time is so that people who are considering goign to the event can plan out how much they're selling ahead of time and possibly pick up some extra copies locally to turn into cash at the event.
Yes, the prices went up AGAIN. We just hit back to back PT and GP's for modern.
Re: [Official] Bitching About Prices and Reprints Thread
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Originally Posted by
Bed Decks Palyer
Looks like something ugly happened to dollar.
To be fair, the two big factors that pumped up Tarmogoyf's price couldn't have been known by someone in 2009. Namely:
1) The fact Legacy would get a lot more popular.
2) The fact Modern would replace Extended, ensuring that Tarmogoyf would not rotate out.
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Originally Posted by
Lord Seth
To be fair, the two big factors that pumped up Tarmogoyf's price couldn't have been known by someone in 2009. Namely:
1) The fact Legacy would get a lot more popular.
2) The fact Modern would replace Extended, ensuring that Tarmogoyf would not rotate out.
Yep. Of course! But it still says a lot about the reliability of all those prophecies.
Is there chance Legacy will crumble/deteriorate similarly to Vintage? Maybe not in a year, but what about in five years? Or ten?
May Goyf/SnT/DRS/JTMS/randomstapleofchoice become banned? Surely not? Idk...
What if flood of HQ forgeries destabilizes market?
Is it possible that EU goverment bans Magic from schools and forbids tournaments?
Will or will not US stop their pressure towards a WW3 which would be the end of all sanctioned Magic, if not of all the humanity as we know it?
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What if the world ends
I guess we will bring Shandalar with us to Mars?
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Phelix
I guess we will bring Shandalar with us to Mars?
This will have disastrous impact on price of MWS duals.
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Will be no problem, i just pay you in bitcoin!
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How do people know about set release sizes ? A card will jump in price and someone says o that set was a limited release . Is this something wizards tells people ? I understand why imperial seal is so expensive b/c it was such a limited set release but relative to what ? For example is Urza’s legacy 5x the set release of portal three kingdoms, and invasion is 10x and the newer sets are even more ?
