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I've watched your streams in archive and always appreciate the content. Sometimes it has been hard to hear you over the music, which by the way is some of the better streaming music I've heard. I simply like hearing your thought process as the match is going. Like why you'd wait on a Duress, etc. (Nothing beats a live match, however, as we get to see the often "pimp" side of Storm.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Togores
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Originally Posted by ScottW
Thanks for everything. I will keep doing stuff. And also good you say that about the music, will try to put the sound a bit lower.
Also the music I just search in YT "epic music hour" and let it flow. Think that music without text is the best for streaming. And usualy has energy. Thats what you need to play. :3
Got 4-0 yesterday on Tuesday tournament in LGS with Grinding Station(2 ToA, 1 PiF, 1 EtW, 1 DP, 1 SDT, 6 discard)
2-1 S&T
2-1 Classic ANT
2-0 Zombardment
2-1 UB Reanimator
Side was:
3 Abrupt Decay
1 Krosan grip
1 Burning Wish
1 Ad Nauseam
2 Dread of Night
1 Massacre
1 Echoing Truth
2 Flusterstorm
3 Hurkyl's Recall
Congrats Oleg - when do you bring in the Burning Wish?
Thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by taconaut
Vs decks with discard+surgic and vs combodecks to have like 1 more tutor.
Do you ever have issues with it not being as compatible with PiF/having to find extra Red mana?
No, everything is ok:)Quote:
Originally Posted by taconaut
Today I played at the nerd rage gaming legacy championship trial in buffalo grove IL.
51 players 6 rounds
rd1 rug delver 2/1
rd2 punishing jund 2/1
rd3 punishing jund 2/0
rd4 infect 1/2
rd5 sns 2/0
rd6 id
top8
quarter finals storm 2/1
semi finals painter 1/2
I only herd about eldrazi in the room but never saw it. A lot of fair decks today and in the end I lost to painter on a game 3 mull to 4 after seeing no lands in any hands or petals. Ran pretty much the same list as I posted before but switched up 1 sb card and put in another empty. As I mentioned before, the night's whisper has been a ok main stay in the deck. For me today it won me game 1 against sneak and show as I tried to find a disruption effect and was out of blue while floating a bunch of black. I cast night's drawled 2 and found what I needed. The card isn't the bee's nee's but for right now I don't see myself playing any other card main deck. Chain also made it's impact in top 8 as my storm mirror match chose that one spell off his duress and that lead to his demise. I also had two win's off empty the warrens. One was turn one empty for 10 and the other was mid game empty for 14. For my spoils 100$$$ cash money and a great time with friends.
the goods
Lands (14)
2 Island
1 Swamp
3 flooded strand
4 Polluted Delta
1 bloodstained mire
2 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
Spells (46)
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Lotus Petal
1 Ad Nauseam
4 Brainstorm
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Dark Ritual
3 Cabal Therapy
1 Dark Petition
3 Duress
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Infernal Tutor
1 Past in Flames
4 Ponder
2 Preordain
1 chain of vapor
1 night's whisper
1 Tendrils of Agony
SB:
2 Xantid Swarm
2 Dread of Night
3 Abrupt Decay
1 krosan grip
1 Disfigure
1 Echoing truth
1 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Empty the Warrens
1 Massacre
1 Tropical Island
Did another batch of ANT-videos. Reasonably happy with the list.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...FFYL-0wKJDBkh6
Thanks for the videos Nevilshute! I've watched the first few rounds and have enjoyed them as always.
Hi guys!
Not a storm player here, but I'm thinking about building it at some time in the future since the dual lands overlap really nicely with my Grixis Delver deck and I really think Storm is a super exciting mechanic. So I was just testing it against my deck and came to the following scenario where I'd like input on how you would play it:
It's match 2, so post-sideboard.
I've just started my second turn (opponent had fetchland into deathrite).
I fetched for a basic island on the first turn and pondered (so only 2 cards in the gy).
I haven't played a land yet, the top card of my deck is Tendrils. I know my opponent plays Stifle.
My current hand consists of
- Swamp
- Polluted Delta
- Brainstorm
- Duress
- Dark Ritual
- LED
- Chain of Vapor (though I realize this card is not really getting played anymore? Is is because Eldrazi and Miracles?)
I play a fairly standard list, postboard I have no Preordains, no ad nauseam, only 3 cabal therapy, 3 duress, 2 empty the warrens, 2 chain of vapor.
So what do I do here? Do I play around Daze by just swamp->duress? Do I try to set him back a turn by playing chain of vapor on drs after brainstorming? Do I just brainstorm and hope to get there this turn (doesn't seem right with this many "dead" cards in chain, tendrils and 2 lands)?
Really would like to hear your opinions. I realize this is more of a general question and not a super complicated puzzle, but I'm fairly new to this deck as I said.
My feeling would be that playing fetch and brainstorm seems fine, I'm not under a lot of pressure and I can even go for the win via past in flames thanks to chain of vapor later in the game. Also I'd hold my duress for when I want to go off and just play around daze for the time being...
Hello,Quote:
Originally Posted by Agrippa91
the problem is that Chain of Vapor is absurdly weak against Grixis Delver. I'd never board it in. If you're afraid of Shaman, then play Decay to kill them or the more powerful Pyroclasm, which basically kills everything, since most of the time 1 Angler gets boarded out, if I'm correct.
In your situation, I guess, my play would be Swamp > go because there's little chance to get storm9 and there's no need to. Keep BS for a potential Therapy. As you realized, one can still win via Pif against Shaman even without removals.
btw, I went once againt (forth time in the row) 4-0 at the Tuesday 4-rounder putting me to 16-0 in that shop... :laugh:
Played Shloshstorm with one Thing in the Ice in the SB for one Clasm. It did nothing.
Round 1 Goblins
He goes Caverns > Lackey and I see his hand in my turn, which is pretty decent; potentially a turn 3 kill. I BS with a Petal, fetch, Ponder with Island and find the tutor for the 2nd turn win after he attacked me with Lackey and put some dudes into play. Game2 was more interesting but I took his Chalice on turn one with a Thougtseize early on. He then proceeded to tax my mana base a bit with Port and played Lackey > SGC, which got answered by a Pyroclasm. He ripped Chalice, I had the Decay and won with a Pif loop from there.
Round 2 Infect
He starts and played Hierarch. I kept a slowish hand with Pif and Toa already there. I played Swamp, Petal > Ponder which found me a Grim Tutor and Dark Ritual. I kept them and he started to count a bit while fetching for a Dryad Arbor. Thus, I suspected him to have a lot of pump spells to win with normal damage via Arbor. On turn 3, I went for a line without probe or a discard spell but he indeed had only pumpspells that would have been lethal on the next turn. I think my line was pretty unspactacular with Dark Ritual, 2 Critauls, Grim into another Critual, PiF with Toa in hand.
Round 3 Jund
Jund guy managed to win against the other ANT palyer the round before. Game 1 took us 1 min after I started and played Ponder drawing Grim and keeping Infernal on top. He thoughtseized my Grim and I've announced that I have Infernal on top, revealed it and he conceded, even though there wasn't a kill (would have to BS first). In game 2, he had too much pressure and I drew only mana. Pretty uneventful loss. For the final match, I countered a Hynm on turn 2 and played AdN on turn 3 against his Surgical which took Infernal in response: my flips were pretty good, nothing too special here as well.
Round 4 ANT
I started the game with a BS because my hand was very close to a kill but drew 3 BS with it > BS lock... He durdled a bit with his cantrips and disard spells and gathered a kill on his turn 3 I think. For the next one, I had a casual turn 1 AdNauseam with Ritual, LED,LED, and Infernal that found the kill rather easily. Again, for the deciding match, he cantriped a bit and had a 3rd turn kill on top of his library but I managed to find a turn 2 with Dark Ritual, 2 Critual into AdNauseam from hand for a nice Tendrils kill. (I drew with him, so he could get a booster pack for his troubles on 7 points; was the only one with 9p before the round)
All in all, to quote the fellow Storm player, "Ad Nauseam overperformed today" winning 3 games for me and 2 for him if I recall correctly. No EtW were played today; I like how the red dudes knew that I wouldn't need them. They sure will come just in time. :wink:
Do you have a list? It seems pretty interesting. Also what are the general cards that get boarded in against Grixis Delver? I thought about Chain of Vapor because it slows down delver significantly, gains tempo against pyromancer and bounces a null rod if the opponent has it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CabalTherapy
And yes, Pyromancer is really good against Grixis because most people even board out all 2 anglers (all the other creatures just do way more) besides some bolts.
I don't think I like Decay since green leaves you open to wasteland if you don't want to waste a petal, also it's really expensive. It would get the occasional null rod so I'm not sure, perhaps 1?
Also how is Empty the Warrens considered against DRS-delver-decks? I know that it can be pretty hard against creature decks to get there with goblins, I only remember that people board it in against RUG. On the other side RUG has Rough/Tumble while Grixis normally doesn't play any boardwhipes.
Actually think multiple Empty is the best plan against Deathrite + Delver decks. Straight up Grinding Station is already great against Canadian, but Goblins are still worth boarding if you have them. I do board Empty against Canadian with the 2 Petition list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agrippa91
I like CT's Swamp->goQuote:
Originally Posted by Agrippa91
:eek: this is getting out of hand.. congrats!Quote:
Originally Posted by CabalTherapy
btw. also 4-0 with Therapystorm
2-1 Burn
2-1 W hatebears
2-0 S+T
2-1 Grixis delver
While I agree that EtW is a good plan, I'm not sure I'd play multiple as a lot of DRS situations are really tight race which small-mid size goblin squad can easily loseQuote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Alexander
Slowing down Delver is not bad in general but Chain is too weak hitting only one creature. How about killing all? > Clasm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agrippa91
Generally, I don't care about Null Rod but Decay isn't expensive because you don't have to worry about taxing counterspells and it hits everything on their side. Running 2 green sources, it's bearable to get one land wasted if you can kill something decent.
I like boarding in Flusterstorms and Pyroclasms and from time to time Xantid Swarms depending on the player.
Nothing special regarding the list. It's Sloshstorm with a lot of flexible SB slots.
I agree with Sloshy on EtW, although haven't tested mulitples. I'd rather go for PiF loops all day long supported by Clasms.
Yes, that's true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloshthedark
Thanks.
What is the "Shloshstorm" list ?
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Originally Posted by Douif
2 Pif, 2 Toa, 1 Etw, 1 Grim, and AdN in the SB for me. I only play one Top, 6 discard spells, and Tropical main for example but the core remains the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Douif
Hey y'all,
I'm a longtime lurker, but first time poster. I was wondering how y'all feel about the current discard split that I've seen floating around on the boards of 3 Duress/3 Cabal Therapy, and whether or not that is altered by the move in the current meta to maindeck ETW. If the direction we're trending in is one of ETW main, and in some builds multiple copies of Empty, doesn't a 4/2 split in favor of Therapy make more sense given the synergy between flashback and goblin tokens/Xantid Swarm? Is this just a call that we should be making based on how much permission we have to fight through game one in the dark vis-a-vis our local meta, or should we attempt to maximize the amount of maindeck synergy that we have? Unsure if it impacts the decision, but my current build is 1DP, 1 ToA, 1 ETW, 1 PiF, 1 SDT, AdN in the board.