Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
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Originally Posted by
BrazenSix
Hey guys,
I'm looking to play Nic Fit this weekend at a local tournament and am looking for some sideboard advice. The meta will consist of mainly BUG variants, Miracles, RUG/UR builds, Lands, a few burn decks and undoubtedly a couple of the typical Dredge, Goblins, and Storm builds. I'm unsure if there will be any Eldrazi decks, but I'd hedge my bets and assume there will be a few.
I've been play testing Ricardo's mainboard list, but mostly want to tune the sideboard for this type of meta. I've always been a BUG player, but want to change things up and the thought of not having FoW/Daze kind of scares me, lol. Were there any changes you suggest to this list since it was posted? (Legacy League list).
Here's what I was initially thinking:
3 Surgical Extraction
2 Thoughtseize
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
2 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Glissa, the Traitor
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Garruk Relentless
3 Slaughter Games
I was thinking on cutting the mainboard Courser and moving Glissa to the mainboard which could make room for a Reclamation Sage or Dragonlord Dromoka.
Thoughts?
I just wanna say i feel immense pride when someone acknowledges my lists and advise. I appreciate all the work everyone puts it because it is most certainly paying off.
as for switching courser, that is the flex slot in the 60 for me atm. you can put in what you want. I jsut threw in courser because hes solid.
Sideboard is highly meta dependent.
I personally like
1 teeg
1 glissa
3 seize
2 surgical
3 slaughter games (10)
and then you can put in what you feel you need.
Lands is tricky. I am a fan of needle against them to buy time from lage. surgical is great at hitting fires and depths after they go for it. Karakas in the main of course.
I would only play glissa in the main if the meta was saturated with eldrazi but then again now some of them play some removal so im not certain she is a lock piece but more along the lines of a speed bump.
between 4 decay, 1 vindicate, 3 deed and 1 ewit: rec sage seems frivolous to me.
Playing without force and daze can feel like skiing naked but i urge you to embrace the cold(and shrinkage ;] ) i hate fow because its always 2 for 1 or 5 cmc cspell. Daze is tempo but we can play around it without much pain.
If the meta is too aggressive you can drop a truths for something you feel with improve that matchup.
Boldly go where no blue mage will travel, into the fray, riding a rhino and equip with enough decays/deeds to level a city.
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
I would like to note that Glissa was fine for me all weekend at Mythic in the main, even vs non-Eldrazi. Vs Gobbos in r6, for example, she stalled for a tremendous amount of time just by her lonesome, and she eats Goyfs for breakfast. I wouldn't fault anyone for sideboarding her, but I think that she's good enough in the current meta to justify maindecking her and opening up a valuable sideboard slot to use for something else.
As a sidenote, I'll be at GP DC if anyone else will be there. I'm not playing in the event, but I'll be wandering around getting shit signed and probably playing in a couple legacy side events.
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
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Originally Posted by
Arianrhod
I would like to note that Glissa was fine for me all weekend at Mythic in the main, even vs non-Eldrazi. Vs Gobbos in r6, for example, she stalled for a tremendous amount of time just by her lonesome, and she eats Goyfs for breakfast. I wouldn't fault anyone for sideboarding her, but I think that she's good enough in the current meta to justify maindecking her and opening up a valuable sideboard slot to use for something else.
As a sidenote, I'll be at GP DC if anyone else will be there. I'm not playing in the event, but I'll be wandering around getting shit signed and probably playing in a couple legacy side events.
I could see her in the mainboard.
Have fun at the gp. Good luck in side events.
I am currently 1-3 in a league. loss are 2 miracles decks(1 I conceded out of frustration) and Bahra on RUG: I should not have lost this, varianced in my @$$hole. I beat a weird 4c deathblade deck. otherwise the deck has been fine.
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
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Mothership confirmed Sigarda 2.0
Wish her still have Green(thus zenith-able).
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
Has anyone ever tried playing Counterbalance in a BUG build? We have Top and a lot of mana to spend on it.
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
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Originally Posted by
Tokugawa
Something of note about her is that it is very likely (due probably to her hexproof/can't be sacced nature) that she is the last remaining uncorrupted Powerpuff Girl of the set. Her wings aren't stained red, nor are her clothes/armor, unlike the other two + Avacyn. This means that regardless of the colors of the other angels, Sigarda 2.0 will almost certainly be GW still.
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
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Originally Posted by
Navsi
Has anyone ever tried playing Counterbalance in a BUG build? We have Top and a lot of mana to spend on it.
Counterbalance die to own deeds.
If counterbalance would die to own Terminus, who would play Miracles anymore?
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
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Originally Posted by
Ricardio
I just wanna say i feel immense pride when someone acknowledges my lists and advise. I appreciate all the work everyone puts it because it is most certainly paying off.
as for switching courser, that is the flex slot in the 60 for me atm. you can put in what you want. I jsut threw in courser because hes solid.
Sideboard is highly meta dependent.
I personally like
1 teeg
1 glissa
3 seize
2 surgical
3 slaughter games (10)
and then you can put in what you feel you need.
Lands is tricky. I am a fan of needle against them to buy time from lage. surgical is great at hitting fires and depths after they go for it. Karakas in the main of course.
I would only play glissa in the main if the meta was saturated with eldrazi but then again now some of them play some removal so im not certain she is a lock piece but more along the lines of a speed bump.
between 4 decay, 1 vindicate, 3 deed and 1 ewit: rec sage seems frivolous to me.
Playing without force and daze can feel like skiing naked but i urge you to embrace the cold(and shrinkage ;] ) i hate fow because its always 2 for 1 or 5 cmc cspell. Daze is tempo but we can play around it without much pain.
If the meta is too aggressive you can drop a truths for something you feel with improve that matchup.
Boldly go where no blue mage will travel, into the fray, riding a rhino and equip with enough decays/deeds to level a city.
Thanks for your input. I haven't been overly impressed with Courser in my 20ish play testing games so far, so I think I'll bring Glissa to the main and probably run a Needle in the sideboard to see how that fares. Was also possibly thinking about a single Kitchen Finks to help the burn matchup before hitting Rhinos, but I'm not sure if it's necessary. I will need to test the matchup more.
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
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Originally Posted by
BrazenSix
Thanks for your input. I haven't been overly impressed with Courser in my 20ish play testing games so far, so I think I'll bring Glissa to the main and probably run a Needle in the sideboard to see how that fares. Was also possibly thinking about a single Kitchen Finks to help the burn matchup before hitting Rhinos, but I'm not sure if it's necessary. I will need to test the matchup more.
Courser is definitely the creature I want against burn. Kitchen Finks seems weak by comparison.
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Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
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Originally Posted by
Bobmans
Thnx. I was just about to get back on responding to Jaytron.
Thanks! These are all great ideas. I'll throw something together and start testing it out
Kinda crazy coming to Nic Fit, where the only "must haves" are basics, veterans, and cabals. Sounds like I'm going to have some fun brewing and testing.
Open slots in Delver decks are maybe 4~6 cards :laugh:
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
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Originally Posted by
TTX
Courser is definitely the creature I want against burn. Kitchen Finks seems weak by comparison.
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Finks is very strong against Burn. It's super easy to cast off of basics, the 4 life is worth a card, and it can trade with 2 other creatures. It's effectively a 3 vs 1 against them, and it even plays well with our sac outlets. Courser is probably better in any other match though.
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
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Originally Posted by
Jaytron
Thanks! These are all great ideas. I'll throw something together and start testing it out
Kinda crazy coming to Nic Fit, where the only "must haves" are basics, veterans, and cabals. Sounds like I'm going to have some fun brewing and testing.
Open slots in Delver decks are maybe 4~6 cards :laugh:
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Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
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Originally Posted by
Jaytron
Thanks! These are all great ideas. I'll throw something together and start testing it out
Kinda crazy coming to Nic Fit, where the only "must haves" are basics, veterans, and cabals. Sounds like I'm going to have some fun brewing and testing.
Open slots in Delver decks are maybe 4~6 cards :laugh:
Before the decision of color combination(which one you prefer, Junk, Jund or BUG?), there are 30+ open slots.
After the decision, Nicfit does not have significantly more free slots than "nornal" legacy decks.
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
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Originally Posted by
Arianrhod
Something of note about her is that it is very likely (due probably to her hexproof/can't be sacced nature) that she is the last remaining uncorrupted Powerpuff Girl of the set. Her wings aren't stained red, nor are her clothes/armor, unlike the other two + Avacyn. This means that regardless of the colors of the other angels, Sigarda 2.0 will almost certainly be GW still.
As long as she still has hexproof/shroud and flying it's all fine by me. She can be smaller this time around or bigger, I don't care. I'd go for a 4 mana 3/4 flying, hexproof Sigarda. I'd call her "fuck you, Delver". Give her first strike and deathtouch to boot and we call her "fuck you, Delver-and-whoever-else-has-the-nerve-to-attack-me". They can even reduce her stats to 1/1 for all I care.
That would leave us with the possibility of sequencing "fuck you, Daze", "fuck you, Plow", "fuck you, Delver". GG?
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
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Originally Posted by
Arianrhod
Welcome to the dark side. We have cookies.
I do like cookies. I'm not sure if I'm 100% committing to Nic Fit so I may not qualify for cookies just yet. I do love me some sweet tempo plays. Sometimes I just want to do EDH style things, without having to sit down for a long EDH game :P
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Originally Posted by
Tokugawa
Before the decision of color combination(which one you prefer, Junk, Jund or BUG?), there are 30+ open slots.
After the decision, Nicfit does not have significantly more free slots than "nornal" legacy decks.
I think I've decided on BUG, but it still seems there are a ton of open slots. I don't think I'm ready to let go of blue just yet.
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
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Originally Posted by
Jaytron
Sometimes I just want to do EDH style things, without having to sit down for a long EDH game :P
That's what Nic Fit does. Stick around long enough and you might hear some old war stories.
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
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Originally Posted by
Echelon
That's what Nic Fit does. Stick around long enough and you might hear some old war stories.
:) Looking forward to it.
My goal is to just build my Legacy collection so I can play any deck I feel like playing. I think my main deck will always be some Delver variant, but it'll be fun to play some other stuff here and there.
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
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Originally Posted by
Jaytron
:) Looking forward to it.
Mine mostly revolve around my own Summoner's Egg build, lovingly called Timmy Nic Fit. I prefered it over Eggs & Bacon.
Those of others probably entail stuff involving Academy Rector and other wonderful things.
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
Jaytron, post a list of what you are thinking of. I have been on Bug midrange (essentially shardless-less shardless, so more snap casters and such) but have been meaning to brew a nic fit deck again.
Re: [Primer/Deck] Nic Fit
I think with the current meta, a pw bug fit list with innocent blood and abyssal persecutor could be good. Alongside lily and garruk to get tokens out.
