[Primer] Eldrazi Stompy

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Originally Posted by Barook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3F76szrptg

My match vs Julian R3.

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@ Reihu

They're on this thread. This one here and the one on the previous page vs reanimator

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Originally Posted by RhoxWarMonk

@ Reihu

They're on this thread. This one here and the one on the previous page vs reanimator

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YouTube game complete this barook?

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Originally Posted by josch6083

Hi,

I already mentioned that against Most of the MUs nevinyrrils disc is the answer. Its way more castable than all is dust and it kills ensnaring bridge. Its also a Killer in the mirror. And I think there is a good Chance to meet more and more Eldrazi. Also against blood moon all is dust is way too slow. And you kill cards that are a real pain in the Ass like jitte/any swords/vial/Interrupt top-mentor combo ... You cannot kill with all is dust.
I play 2 md and 1 all is dust sb. I am very happy so far! And with 4 factories and 21 eldrazis I got enough pressure after the board is wiped.
I really recommend disc. :-)

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I think that Oblivion Stone is better. You can save your permanents and you can activate it the same turn it enters the battlefield.

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Originally Posted by Barook

Took down Lejay on Shardless in the final round. :eek:

6-1 after 7 rounds with my new list in the Legacy challenge - Top 8 incoming!

I agree with the posters above - Displacers + Matter Reshaper is insane! Since they cover the weakness each other's list had, the result is extremely strong (although I prefer at least 3 Displacers with a 4th one as SB option.) 15-2 with the list in leagues + Challenge so far.

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Firstly Barook, congratulations on the Legacy Challenge victory. I know we chatted a bit on it during the Rd 4 Reanimator match in his Twitch stream, but you really did excellently throughout this tournament regardless of admittedly silly Grave Titan lines (i just thought you were sitting on a Wail LOL!!) Incredibly impressive performance, and I can't help but think you have forced me to run your list going forward. I was already among the few who thought your Reshaper/Displacer combination was the next evolution and am more than happy to accept your profound results as confirmation this is where the list should be without doubt.

My only question to you would be how harmful changing Petals to Diamonds would be, perhaps even just a pair. I do have a Mox Diamond love affair, but perhaps you will be able to explain better the boons of Petal vs the decks where we want the White or Temporary Accel? The biggest thing i see is allowing 24 instead of 25 lands.

I am also thrilled that at least for now the Wastelands discussion has been laid to rest. We want to keep lands not lose them! :)

I feel truly lucky to be a part of this exciting new archtype.

Metronome-- Sorry I couldn't make it to the Tales 1k buddy, but i am disputing custody for my five year old daughter so i just had to prioritize a bit yesterday. I will likely make the 1k in Jersey next weekend with Barooks-Challenge list.

Grats Barook, you guys are putting in good work and it appears to be paying off quite a bit :cool:

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Originally Posted by Barook

That was my favorite moment of the tournament. It's a shame the archived video doesn't have sound anymore. It's so much more hilarious with it. IIRC, it was something like this:

"Well, I guess I could take 6."
*play Displacer*
"That's all you got?"
*activate Displacer*
"I guess targeting Thought-Knot Seer is pretty good."
*the moment the horribly realization kicks in when TKS enters my side of the board, resulting in a 4-card swing and him being dead on board now*
"Shit! FUCK!"

:laugh:

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I had to rewatch that reanimator match-up. That topdeck was wicked in many ways, and the funny reaction. Lol

Hey all,

I got second place yesterday at the Wyrmwood Legacy Open II playing Eldrazi Stompy. I believe there were 42-44ish people there. Here is the list I ran:

Lands (24)
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Cavern of Souls
4 Mishra’s Factory
3 City of Traitors
3 Eye of Ugin
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

Creatures (24)
1 Phyrexian Metamorph
2 Simian Spirit Guide
2 Endbringer
3 Matter Reshaper
4 Eldrazi Mimic
4 Endless One
4 Thought-Knot Seer
4 Reality Smasher

Spells (12)
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Thorn of Amethyst
2 Warping Wail
2 Dismember
2 Umezawa’s Jitte

SB
2 Sphere of Resistance
1 Null Rod
1 Dismember
2 Warping Wail
4 Leyline of the Void
3 Pithing Needle
2 All is Dust

I beat Miracles, UR Delver, Shardless BUG and UR Delver before double drawing into T8. Then I beat Infect in the quarters, Storm in the semis, and lost to Sneak and Show in the finals. 24 lands and two accelerants felt great, but then again I never really played against a hard-core mana denial deck like Lands or D&T. My 12 spells also felt just right. Metamorph was fine but not amazing for me, and I tended to side it out pretty frequently. It was cute when I was able to copy a TKS against Storm, but it didn't end up being the difference maker.

I've been very resistant to playing Matter Reshaper, and overall they were just OK for me. One game against UR Delver he bolted a Reshaper and the trigger revealed Thorn, which I slammed into play, but otherwise it was pretty meh. Endbringer singlehandedly won me a game against UR Delver, and has been a total all-star for me in the past against Jund, Lands, Delver, and D&T, but I could definitely see moving one copy to the sideboard.

Neither my play nor my draws were particularly inspired in the finals, and I'd also never played against S&S, which certainly hurt. Overall, though, I was obviously very happy with how the deck performed.

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Originally Posted by Thereisnocomp2

My only question to you would be how harmful changing Petals to Diamonds would be, perhaps even just a pair. I do have a Mox Diamond love affair, but perhaps you will be able to explain better the boons of Petal vs the decks where we want the White or Temporary Accel? The biggest thing i see is allowing 24 instead of 25 lands.

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I ran Mox before. The problems are that a) it's a completely dead topdeck later on while Petals still have at least some fringe uses, b) it makes your starting hands more inconsistent and c) you most likely lose mana if you're forced to discard a Sol land.

Despite being temporary, Petal does a better job than Mox overall.

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Originally Posted by Thereisnocomp2

Firstly Barook, congratulations on the Legacy Challenge victory. I know we chatted a bit on it during the Rd 4 Reanimator match in his Twitch stream, but you really did excellently throughout this tournament regardless of admittedly silly Grave Titan lines (i just thought you were sitting on a Wail LOL!!) Incredibly impressive performance, and I can't help but think you have forced me to run your list going forward. I was already among the few who thought your Reshaper/Displacer combination was the next evolution and am more than happy to accept your profound results as confirmation this is where the list should be without doubt.

My only question to you would be how harmful changing Petals to Diamonds would be, perhaps even just a pair. I do have a Mox Diamond love affair, but perhaps you will be able to explain better the boons of Petal vs the decks where we want the White or Temporary Accel? The biggest thing i see is allowing 24 instead of 25 lands.

I am also thrilled that at least for now the Wastelands discussion has been laid to rest. We want to keep lands not lose them! :)

I feel truly lucky to be a part of this exciting new archtype.

Metronome-- Sorry I couldn't make it to the Tales 1k buddy, but i am disputing custody for my five year old daughter so i just had to prioritize a bit yesterday. I will likely make the 1k in Jersey next weekend with Barooks-Challenge list.

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No worries man, i can't make it to togit next weekend so its whatever. I switched back to colorless for the tournament because i felt the list was a little more powerful. The Barook list is running reshaper and displacer with the minimal white splash like i was trying a few weeks ago .i think i'm gunna give his 75 a shot. It'll probably be a few weeks till i can get all the cards. but i believe having displacer in some number is better than none at all. Have you tested all is dust? , How'd you like it?

I took first place at a thirteen person tourney last Thursday with the following build:

Creatures (23)
4 Eldrazi Mimic
1 Endbringer
4 Endless One
4 Matter Reshaper
4 Reality Smasher
4 Thought-Knot Seer
2 Phyrexian Revoker

Instant (2)
1 Dismember
1 Warping Wail

Artifact (11)
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Crucible of Worlds
2 Mox Diamond

Land (25)
4 Ancient Tomb
3 Cavern of Souls
3 City of Traitors
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Eye of Ugin
2 Mishra's Factory
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Wasteland
((61 Cards))

Sideboard (15)
2 All is Dust
1 Platinum Angel
1 Phyrexian Revoker
1 Dismember
2 Warping Wail
2 Nevinyrral's Disk
2 Grafdiggers Cage
4 Leyline of the Void

Yes, I'm running 61 main. The mana base supports it.

I hated the Factory's. Platinum Angel and Nevs Disk were no good. Revokers were amazing, but I wanted one Pithing Needle in a match against Lands. I Lost 2 games the whole night.

So, there were things I didn't like. There were other things I loved.

Here's the updated list. I wanted a basic land, and I felt that the Urborg helped opponents more than me so I'm dropping it. I'm going all colorless with Spatial Contortion over Dismember.

Nevs disk was too slow. All Is Dust was faster, so I'm adding a third.

Matter Reshaper is okay, but I dropped one for a third Revoker because Jace, Liliana, and Deathrite Shaman are things.

The Factory's were useless. I'm replacing them with Bosheiju, Who Shelters All so I can cast All Is Dust and Spatial without worrying.

The Akroma's Memorial is for Moat, and to fly in matches where that might be a thing. Might be terrible. We'll see.

Mox Diamond with Crucible was great, especially against Lands. After playing and testing, I'm going to this:

New list:

Counts : 61 main / 15 sideboard

Creatures:23
4 Endless One
4 Eldrazi Mimic
3 Phyrexian Revoker
3 Matter Reshaper
4 Thought-Knot Seer
4 Reality Smasher
1 Endbringer

4 Chalice of the Void
2 Mox Diamond
1 Spatial Contortion
4 Thorn of Amethyst
2 Crucible of Worlds

Lands:25
4 Ancient Tomb
2 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
3 Cavern of Souls
3 City of Traitors
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Eye of Ugin
4 Wasteland
1 Wastes

Sideboard:15
2 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Pithing Needle
1 Spatial Contortion
2 Warping Wail
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Akroma's Memorial
3 All Is Dust

This deck is an amazing creation. Congrats to whomever came up with it.

Dave

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Originally Posted by Dave

This deck is an amazing creation. Congrats to whomever came up with it.

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Wizards of the Coast did.

Also, you have Boseiju in the main with exactly one spell for it.:confused:

Perhaps Boseiju should be in the side with the spells.

@Barook: Did you find the 3rd Karakas in the SB useful? Thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by darkgh0st

@Barook: Did you find the 3rd Karakas in the SB useful? Thanks in advance.

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I faced Reanimator twice and had multiple match-ups where Displacer was MVP. Answer is a 100% definite yes.

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Originally Posted by Finn

Wizards of the Coast did.

Also, you have Boseiju in the main with exactly one spell for it.:confused:

Perhaps Boseiju should be in the side with the spells.

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The board is really tight. I'm probably going to drop the 2 questionable Akroma's and the Pithing Needle in favor of three Helm of Obedience. I really like the idea of an alternate win condition.

As for the 2 Boseiju in the main, I don't see how it matters since I'll use them for colorless. I like them for post board, and they're still not useless pre-board. I really didn't like the Mishra's Factorys...

Dave

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Originally Posted by caprino

you said you have not convinced you of the 2 metamorph right? What would you put?
second question: against rug delver,omnitell,mud..side out and side in..thanks?

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I think you can deduct omnitell and rug delver from what I wrote. I put in 2x Endbringer, want to try it out once again to improve my late game and to some extent show&tell match up. And put 2x revoker to sideboard.

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Originally Posted by DavidHernandez

The board is really tight. I'm probably going to drop the 2 questionable Akroma's and the Pithing Needle in favor of three Helm of Obedience. I really like the idea of an alternate win condition.

As for the 2 Boseiju in the main, I don't see how it matters since I'll use them for colorless. I like them for post board, and they're still not useless pre-board. I really didn't like the Mishra's Factorys...

Dave

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Well... for starters, they come into play tapped -- which has huge implications in an aggro shell. I've never tested Boseiju in this list, so I can't really comment on it's validity (I don't like to comment on cards I've not played in any given list), but any lands that ETB tapped is an instant deal breaker for me. Also, don't you HAVE to pay 2 life to get the 1 colorless mana, regardless if you use it on an uncounterable instant or sorc? If that's the case, I don't see what this is actually giving you?

If you don't like Mishra's factories, Wasteland is a solid alternative. I've been running the Factories and I like them quite a lot but there's a strong argument to be made for Wastelands in this slot as well.

I think I missed something here but why is the choice of painlands instead of duals? Budget or anything I'm missing?

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Originally Posted by aluisiocsantos

I think I missed something here but why is the choice of painlands instead of duals? Budget or anything I'm missing?

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They give colorless mana.

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Originally Posted by aluisiocsantos

I think I missed something here but why is the choice of painlands instead of duals? Budget or anything I'm missing?

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Oh, that makes complete sense, thanks.

Been meaning to comeback to magic (way too much hearthstone as of lately) and break away from same old grindy decks (currently playing Loam decks) with something fresh. I also have my MUD piling up dust, so it's not a huge change in a manner of card picks to play this, so I'm trying to understand the archetype first. :)

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Originally Posted by RhoxWarMonk

Well... for starters, they come into play tapped -- which has huge implications in an aggro shell. I've never tested Boseiju in this list, so I can't really comment on it's validity (I don't like to comment on cards I've not played in any given list), but any lands that ETB tapped is an instant deal breaker for me. Also, don't you HAVE to pay 2 life to get the 1 colorless mana, regardless if you use it on an uncounterable instant or sorc? If that's the case, I don't see what this is actually giving you?

If you don't like Mishra's factories, Wasteland is a solid alternative. I've been running the Factories and I like them quite a lot but there's a strong argument to be made for Wastelands in this slot as well.

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Good points. I'm testing them and I don't like two. I look at it as a card for mid game to force the All Is Dust, Dismember or Spatial Contortion, and Warping Wail through. I'll try it with one and put my Urborg back in. I run four Wasteland but may drop to three so I can run two Wastes. I'm not married to Boseiju's, just looking for some silver bullets this week.

I've read the entire 22 page thread but don't see good answers for Back To Basics. Do wee just race the three mana they need?