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I see that too as most of those kinds of players run a lot of fetchlands that will fetch red while the bloodstain mire fetches black as well as red the more the reason to toss in a few basic swamps as well as Badlands for the splash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Osse
Soon I could see them throw in Green for the Korsan Grip Removal and if luck comes along an enemy Fetchland a will be circulated to give the decks more variation in fetching other kinds of basic lands as well as Duals.
yea there are builds of R/b/g, but if you are playing against R/b and you toss a moon down first turn, they can`t fetch for black, so only one swamp really isn`t a problem.
So Blood Moon turn one or Magus of the Moon and you have part of the game in the bag unless they have the basic swamp in hand to laugh at cha otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by savemysoul
I see.
Let's be real, though. You aren't going to get the turn one Moon down before they have a land drop more than about 15-20% of the time, and that estimate may be high. You lose 50% based on your opponent going first, and then if you're going first, you have to have a Moon in hand and the acceleration not only to play the Moon on turn one but to make it correct to do so. And even then they could randomly have the basic swamp. Although, by the same token, you'll steal a few from turn two-three Moons because your opponent didn't have a fetchland.Quote:
Originally Posted by savemysoul
The point is that Swamp or no Swamp, Blood Moon probably isn't worth keeping in against Goblins past game one.
I get it the SB plan against Goblins is to side out all of the blood moons and go for some mass removal to slow down the hordes. But then again the Magus of the Moon provides some blockage in the early game but would be rendered useless in the late game unless they use a lot of nonbasic lands such as the Port, fetchlands or duals for splashing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tacosnape
But it still will provide them with red mana. Sure you take away the Port's tap-a-land ability, but they can still use it pretty effectively. Magus becomes a chump pretty quickly. I'd side in my max number of mass removal and rip out Moon effects. I think that Trinisphere is really cool here because it negates the Chief discount.Quote:
Originally Posted by mercenarybdu
What is the standard removal card in the SB now anyways? Rolling Earthquake is really expensive. Is Earthquake the way to go? Pyroclasm? Starstorm(not quite as good as Rolling Earthquake)?
I think most are leaing towards Pyrokinesis. It helps achieve hellbent, it's red, and it can effectively clear boards (4 dmg is alot to dole out... for no mana).Quote:
Originally Posted by chokin
Yea no mana but card disadvantage
Pyrokinesis is pretty solid. The only way I'd pick something else is if you've got a ton of Empty The Warrens stuff to deal with.
Card disadvantage isn't a bad thing for Pyrokinesis. Anything you're boarding in Pyrokinesis against is one of two things.
1. A combo deck with creatures as part of the combo.
2. A deck that's trying to out-aggro you, or at least throw enough blockers down to survive until it can turn aggro.
In neither situation do you care very much about the card advantage. Pyrokinesis is a 0-mana instant, which automatically makes it a powerhouse in this format. It will teach lessons to most decks that try to out-aggro you like Goblins, Affinity, and Sui Black (Eva Green can still do it with a good hand due to all their stuff generally having toughness 5), and it's just more fuel to add to the fire against things like Cephalid Breakfast and Ichorid. And the mirror match is all about Pyrokinesis.
Umm.. The mirror match for me was all about 1st turn sloggers, but yeah - pyrokinesis was the card I missed the most. Even with 1st turn slogger slammed into the table - you can't afford to block even once with him 'cause then he would be in pyro-range. (The other guy had them.)
@ Taco: What do you think: in the mirror, if you're on the draw - side out chalices, blood moons and maguses if you have anything to bring. Mostly Pyrokinesis I guess but anything that can pick up a jitte or actually do something will do just fine.
And on the go: board back in at least chalices and maguses, not blood moon really.
1st turn chalice was a straight game loss for me in the g2 of the mirror: I had a Mox and a Raiders and an Akroma that I just couldn't play. Also, it's (potential) mana denial and tempo if you go first and slam a magus down.
Or am I just stupid?
Winning the mirror goes like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by deviant
Deck Design: Play 22-23 threats at minimum. Play 4 Arc-Sloggers. Don't play Trinisphere. Don't play Akroma, Angel of Fury. I cut her immediately upon discovering how awful she was in the mirror. Sulfur Elemental and Mauler are both pretty good in the mirror. Mauler might be slightly better due to natural Pyrokinesis resistance. (It still usually kills him, but they'll never get a 2 for 1 involving a Mauler with Pyrokinesis, whereas they might with Sulfur Elemental.) Oh, and if you really want to dominate the mirror, run Flametongue Kavu.
Game 1: Win the die roll. If you do, drop your first Chalice for 0 (Unless you're sitting on a hand full of Gathan Raiders, obviously). If you don't win the die roll, you may be better off saving them for Gathan Raiders flipping. Sloggers, as you said, are the biggest difference maker in this game. Equipment is second. SOFI, while bad, is really good in the mirror, and in mirrors where neither player runs them, winning the Jitte war is important.
Not game 1: Let's look at your sideboard cards.
Pyrokinesis: Board all 4 in for your 4 Chalices unless you are on the play and you are 100% sure your opponent is playing Akroma, Angel of Fury. If this is the case, cut 2 Chalice and 2 Blood Moon instead. It's not worth keeping Chalice in just to stop Chrome Mox and Gathan Raiders. Blood Moon, while being bad, is at least fodder for both Mox and Pyrokinesis, which is vital considering that in the mirror you can scarcely afford to lose threats. Generally, Chalice is the most important thing to ditch.
Pithing Needle: Needle is your toughest choice. It always comes in for Blood Moon if you saw Sword of Fire and Ice, or if you're pretty sure your opponent runs more Jittes than you. What makes Needle good in the mirror is that, as neither deck has any draw capacity, it will stop whatever they have that you don't. If they threaten to Slogger all your guys to death, you name Slogger. If they threaten to fly over and kill you with a firebreathing, Hellbent Dragon, you name Dragon. Boarding all four in for Moons might be overkill and cause you problems with Mox and Pyrokinesis, so base the number you bring in on your equipment situation. Obviously, since preemptive Needles are worse than reactive Needles, Needle is stronger on the draw than on the play, where you're more likely to need the Blood Moon in your opening hand for Mox fodder.
Trinisphere: Definitely a nono on the draw. It can be useful on the play, but it usually isn't, as your opponent runs 2-mana lands and SSG's, meaning they'll often get out of the Trinisphere oppression by turn 2 and sometimes by turn one. Avoid it.
Tormod's Crypt: About as useful as a football bat. Leave it in the board.
Powder Keg: If you run Keg, which I don't, it's worth a look. A Keg can take down your opponent's Moxes, and early enough it can set you up to kill equipment or your opponent's threats. Shooting Morph guys with him is risky even if you know your opponent runs Akroma, as Gathan Raiders flip over at a moment's notice.
Ingot Chewer: I don't like Mr. Chompers, but he's decent in the mirror. He eats Moxes, he eats Jittes. That's all you really need to know.
So, shortened, assuming you run a normal Pyrokinesis/Needle/Crypt/Trinisphere sideboard:
-4 Chalice of the Void
+4 Pyrokinesis
+0-4 Pithing Needle based on circumstances
-0-4 Blood Moon based on circumstances
Apologies for double-posting, but I just had a situation in a game where, the more I look at it, the more fascinating it becomes as if I'd played it any other way than exactly how I played it, I might have lost.
So here's the puzzle to discuss. Who knows? Maybe I'll learn more than you will.
My opening hand is Ancient Tomb, Mountain, Chrome Mox, Gathan Raiders, Simian Spirit Guide, Arc-Slogger, Taurean Mauler.
My opponent keeps a 7-card hand and because MWS hates me, wins the die roll 18-4. He leads Badlands, Goblin Lackey, go.
I untap and draw a Seething Song.
If this is you, what's your opening play exactly and why? Which land do you lead with, which accelerators do you use and which do you hold back, if you play the mox what do you imprint on it, and so forth?
The play is Tomb, Mox, imprinting guide or raiders, play Taurean Mauler. This protects you from Warren Weirding, as Mauler is a Goblin, and also protects from Mogg fanatic, as Mauler will grow up. Next Turn, play song into Slogger. It should be enough to win you the game, unless you're playing against one of those MWS Goblin builds with 4 Goblin Grenades.
I'd say:
Play tomb + mox (imprint slogger)
Play song and add spirit guide to play a morph and a mauler.
The fact that he's playing Black is too scary to just get warren's weirding into siege gang from his side. So I wouldn't go seething into slogger. Ok you can burn the lackey but it would still be an empty board for you. So either he get's lackey and plays weirding and you end up with 1 fatty or he will keep lackey and can add another goblin in this case you will be running two fatties.
While im thinking about it you could burn the lackey with spiritguide (imprit mauler or the raider. and drop another creature second turn. which would leave him without a lackey. If he doesn't drop the weirding the slogger will probably win you the game on it's own.
Edit: seems like phantom_it beat me his play is a great one aswell!
I'd go for Slogger.
tomb, mox (imprint raiders? I want to keep the mana in hand so I can at least snipe the lackey if they play&draw weirding and with slogger down they have to play spells so it seems like mauler will get bigger than 5/5.)-> song->slogger pass.
Next turn play the mauler.
So I'd just slam down the slogger in hopes of it holding the fort and then proceed to beat face.
Would I have lost terribly?
EDIT: mauler is a goblin. duh.
Tomb, Mox---> Imprint Mauler, Seething Song---> Slogger
When opponent trys to Kill the Slogger, kill the Lackey with SSG.
Next Turn: Mountain, MorphRaiders, the rest depends on your draw.
YawG
I think the best play would be Tomb, Spirit Guide, Seething Song, Mauler, Raiders. In that case, he can't Weird his Lacky though, nor can he Incinerate or Fanatic away your creatures.
My play is based on the Badlands opening. It implies either Rb or Rgb Goblins. Usually those builds run only 1-2 Incinerators and max 1 Tin Street Hooligan and 4 Warren Weirdings. Playing Mauler leaves you vulnerable to Incinerator but I think it's compensated by being resistant to Fanatic and somewhat resistant to Weirding. I probably would imprint the raiders, keeping the SSG in case he blows up your Mox or to keep the option to get 4 mana for Pit-dragon.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhanTom_lt
Another advantage of Mauler is that your opponent must rethink his game plan, and would probably opt for slower game play, thus winning you tempo. And that's what you need, to resolve fatties to win you the game before he overruns you.
EDIT:Not enough mana. That means you imprint your Slogger. You're left with 3 mana, and hellbent also. Not a good place to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanguine Voyeur
Taco, what was your play? Was it the standard Goblins list? Or the random one?
My mistake, that's what I meant. Tomb, Mox, Song, Mauler, Spirt Guide, Raiders face down. I've lost too many early Sloggers to Wierding to make that commitment. With this plan, it's harder to be screwed over by just one spell.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhanTom_lt
I know Goyf is nuts, but is FTK really not being played because of one card? There are numerous other creatures played right now that have toughness 4 or less. I know that Phantom tested it when DS was first conceived, but what about now? Does he not have a home anymore?
He does not, sadly, in any normal meta. The most played decks in an open meta I would guess to be Thresh, then Landstill, then probably some combination of Storm and yard combo, then Goblins (just a rough estimate). That is not a metagame for FtK. it is too often dead there. It really shined when Goblins was far and away #1, and a Goyfless Thresh was #2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsenal
That, for lack of a better word, sucks. FTK looks to be a perfect fit in Dragon Stompy; 3R allowing for early casting, 4/2 beater that kills potential blockers. FTK still hits Threshed Werebears, unThreshed Enforcers, Sea Drakes, and nabs a 3/4 Goyf ocassionally (I'll admit that last one won't happen very often).
Even hitting a 4/5 Goyf puts pressure on the Thresh player, basically allowing for your horde to swing through unblocked (unless he wants to kill his Goyf).
Bleh, you're right for the most part, but it can't ignored that FTK still hits TONS of commonly played stuff; all Sui Black creatures, 90% of Survivial Creatures, all Goblins, almost all of other Stompy creatures, random aggro that always shows up at decent sized tourneys, etc...
This is exactly what I did. Tomb, Mox imprinting Raiders, Taurean Mauler. This left my hand as Mountain, Guide, Song, Slogger.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhanTom_lt
Taurean Mauler guarded me from Weirding/Lackey combo shit, but more importantly he was also going to guard my Slogger from Weirding. Which my opponent realized, so he went to attacking my manabase. He wasted my Tomb and dropped a second Lackey.
Despite losing my Tomb, next turn I was able to go Mountain, Guide, Song, Slogger, with the 3/3 Mauler guarding my Slogger from Warren Weirding. He had to fire off Weirding to stop the Mauler after it got decent-sized, but he turned out to have three Weirdings in hand at the end of the game. None of which could touch the Slogger. I like Taurean Mauler.
But in that scenario, he's played turn 1. Obviously, he's going to be a bomb that early. How's your testing gone once you've gassed your hand (turn 3/4?), you're looking to topdeck the best threats possible, and you topdeck Mauler.
Your point is entirely valid. This is Mauler's absolute biggest weakness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsenal
Mauler absolutely blows against control decks where there actually can be a midgame. In decks that can survive your initial explosion but not necessarily lock you down for a few turns, Sulfur Elemental and Red Akroma are probably both better than Mauler.
Mauler's proving himself good against both Goblins and Threshold, though, which is helping his street cred considerably.
Taco, how does your list look like atm?
I mean, you run what, 34 threats?
I'm just curious to see what do you use as the "shell", since I'm constantly contradicting myself over a few slots.
Care to share?
Double-posting but we already run cards that are a lot better if you drop them on your t1 than on your t3: Blood Moons, Chalices, some run trinis.
I don't see a trouble in increasing our "turn one mvp-count".
Rofl. If I could fit in 34 threats, I totally would. I absolutely hate losing games to control because my initial threat wave gets owned and I can't topdeck anything other than land and equipment.Quote:
Originally Posted by deviant
Here's my list at current. It doesn't change much except what's in the 4 Taurean Mauler slots. I do slight adjustments based on metagame (More Jitte for Burn/Goblins, more Trinisphere if combo looks rampant, etc.)
10 Mountain
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
4 Chrome Mox
4 Seething Song
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Magus of the Moon
4 Gathan Raiders
4 Rakdos Pit Dragon
4 Arc-Slogger
4 Taurean Mauler
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Blood Moon
2 Umezawa's Jitte
SB:
4 Pyrokinesis
4 Pithing Needle
4 Tormod's Crypt
2 Trinisphere
1 Umezawa's Jitte
As for the -shell-, as far as I'm concerned, the following card setup is absolutely core for the deck:
10 Mountain
4 Ancient Tomb
4 City of Traitors
4 Chrome Mox
4 Seething Song
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Magus of the Moon
4 Gathan Raiders
4 Rakdos Pit Dragon
4 Arc-Slogger
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Blood Moon
2 Umezawa's Jitte
(6 Open Slots)
SB:
4 Pyrokinesis
4 Pithing Needle
2 Tormod's Crypt
(5 Open Slots)
Ok. Thanks.
Your 4 maulers are in the place of my 1 jitte, 2 akroma and 1 other card, which atm is a 1-of sulfur. (?)
I've been thinking of a jitteless version since I started playing this deck, and the modifications to your list would pretty much be Jittes-> akromas/sulfurs.
I'd prefer Akromas for threat-diversity. FTK's could do well also.
Have you tested a list like this?
In my opinion, an active Jitte wins games. I've even run 4 Jitte just to ensure I get a Jitte out as soon as possible. I've never had a problem having 1-2 threats out (20-24 creatures in the deck can do that) to stick a topdecked Jitte on.
Running without Jitte is a very very bad idea. I'm not even sure if running less than three is a good idea particularly, but I do it anyway just to steamroll control decks and ensure I have enough threats. Running my list with 23 threats and 3 Jittes instead of 24/2 probably wouldn't make it any worse by any means. I would certainly never advocate any less than three Jitte between maindeck and board.
Jitte covers a lot of things you can't do otherwise, though. It makes your guys larger than Goyfs, it kills off every small guy on the planet, and it gains life, which is highly relevant in tight matchups like Burn or Goyf Sligh, where your Tombs are working against you. Jitte can let you steal these matches if your Chalices don't shut them down. WHat makes Jitte so good is it combines efficient removal with two neat abilities that are rarely ever worth running cards for by themselves: Growing your guys, and gaining life.
Active Jittes win creature-versus-creature wars, What's more, if nothing else, it's important to remember that Jitte hurts you if your opponent runs it, and that Jitte does have the bonus of being Jitte Removal.
Often I'll run the 4th Jitte in my sideboard listed above in place of Crypt #4, depending on the metagame. 4 Pyrokinesis + 4 Jitte + 4 Mauler + 4 Slogger owns any deck running small creatures.
Removing jittes for merry red men would increase consistency. I would very much appreciate consistency.
Also, jittes don't win games - blood moons and arc-sloggers do. (for me at least.)
This is NOT a suggestion of a direction to take the deck, I'm merely asking if anyone has tested it like this - especially with the maulers. I think they're more at home with more people to hang around with. (The more they pop'em the bigger mauler gets and so on.)
I would have to take my testing in our once-in-three-months-legacy-event so I rather ask you people first :tongue:
EDIT: Reminding everyone - I live in a VERY control-heavy metagame. It's so control-heavy it's not even funny anymore. So jitte's only shine against the "random decks". Anyway, just an idea - apparently a bad one.
This is exactly why I only maindeck two. Actually, my metagame's pretty control heavy too. Or was, until half of it started playing Goblins for some reason. Jitte definitely sucks against control.Quote:
Originally Posted by deviant
This isn't quite true. Jittes win games. However, like every nonthreat in your deck, they win a different set of games than the other nonthreats. Blood Moon and Jitte almost never win the same game.Quote:
Also, jittes don't win games - blood moons and arc-sloggers do. (for me at least.)
The beauty of Dragon Stompy is that you get to pick and mix your nonthreat powerhouse cards. Against Burn, for instance, you want four Jitte and four Chalice sitting in your deck, but Pithing Needle and Blood Moon are useless. However, if you're facing a BGW Control deck, you may very well want Needle for Deed and Blood Moon to wreck their manabase, whereas Jitte and Chalice aren't as strong here. And against Belcher, you want both Chalice and Needle.
It's important to have Jitte in your deck, even if it sits in your sideboard. I think it's strong enough to maindeck a pair, as seeing Jitte in doubles is never good unless it's a match where you really need it to win. If you hit -one- bad one, however, it's not impossible to toss it to Gathan Raiders.
The reason I maindeck more Blood Moons than Jittes, as such, is that in matches where Blood Moon is weak, it goes on a Chrome Mox. Jitte doesn't.
Meh, Jitte is useful in every matchup, but it just happens to shine in the aggro matchup. Jitte vs. control is crucial, as an early, active Jitte races your control opponent VERY fast.
Also, a topdecked Jitte is more of a "must-counter" than 50% of your topdecked creatures.
Are you serious? No good control deck player is ever going to counter Umezawa's Jitte. Jitte is the least harmful card in your deck against things like Landstill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsenal
Landstill will beat Dragon Stompy by keeping it off of Blood Moon and then removing your threats, then drawing more removal than you can topdeck threats. It's very good at this, especially if you run less than 24 threats. Jitte is something to either be ignored or just knocked out of the way by Pernicious Deed or whatnot.
It really depends on the boardstate, but if you already have a threat down, and you topdeck a 2/2 beater, I don't think your opponent will counter your 2/2 guy. Now if you topdeck a Jitte, then I think your opponent might give a minute into what they're going to do. If they Deed away everything, it's a moot point, but some of your 2/2 guys don't do much to scare the Landstill player (assuming he does not hold Deed). A 2/2 threat + Jitte is scary.
The only guy that isn't scary to Landstill at all is Simian Spirit Guide. Mauler's not that great, either, but at least has the possibility to get bigger if your opponent doesn't already have multiple manlands and semi-control of the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsenal
The other 16 are scary no matter when they hit. Slogger has reach and can finish off a player even if they have a removal spell for him. Dragon can end the game in a hit. Magus can end the game if they can't float the mana to remove him at instant speed. And Raiders is...well, at least Raiders is pretty big.
Additionally, a 2/2 with a Jitte is not scary for Landstill. Here's how this works.
Dragon Stompy: Equip Jitte on my Simian Spirit Guide, swing.
Landstill: Activate Mishra's Factory, Block, make 3/3.
Dragon Stompy: Uh...remove a counter to kill your Factory.
Landstill: Cool. Good luck drawing another threat.
I'm always willing to trade a Factory for a threat midgame, knowing my topdecks and draw is much more likely to outdo theirs.
Elemental is not scary. SSG is not scary. Raiders as a 2/2 or 3/3, unless you have hellbent, is not scary. Same with Pit Dragon. The only two truly scary, must counter right then creatures you play is Magus and Arc-Slogger. Everything, I don't really care about as I can Wrath/Deed/Damnation/Disk away.
As a control player, not just Landstill only (some people still play MUC, Stax like me), if you have a Mauler/Elemental/non-hellbent Raiders/non-hellbent Dragon/Magus/other 2/2 guy swinging midgame, I do not want you to topdeck Jitte; I'll Spell Snare/Counterspell that. If you topdeck a creature not named Arc-Slogger; I might not care as much.
Just sayin' that Jitte is more of a must-counter than half of the guys you play, because specifics aside, most of them are 2/2 and 3/3. Not scary. If you are threatening hellbent, then yes, you now run scary guys. However, you and I both know that this isn't always the case.
EDIT: Also, if you do not have Crucible/Loam out/active, I'd do that trade as I know that I run 20-24 creatures, and you only run 4-8 removal spells. No need for to over extend into your WoG/Damnation/Deed, I'll just topdeck creatures for Jitte to ride on.
If you've reached a midgame, Raiders and Dragon will have Hellbent. Dragon Stompy has no draw and the only thing that keeps it from Hellbent is mana problems (In which case Landstill usually wins regardless) and the fact that you start with seven cards in your hand. And besides, Dragon firebreathes regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsenal
Then you're usually playing incorrectly. If you'd countered the threat, the Jitte would be useless. If you have a counter, you'd be better off taking the Factory-for-Jitte'dGuy trade, then countering the -next- threat, otherwise you'll be facing two threats instead of one.Quote:
As a control player, not just Landstill only (some people still play MUC, Stax like me), if you have a Mauler/Elemental/non-hellbent Raiders/non-hellbent Dragon/Magus/other 2/2 guy swinging midgame, I do not want you to topdeck Jitte; I'll Counterspell that.
Jitte is a never counter for Landstill. At least for the kinds that have board sweepers.Quote:
Just sayin' that Jitte is more of a must-counter than half of the guys you play, because specifics aside, most of them are 2/2 and 3/3. Not scary. If you are threatening hellbent, then yes, you now run scary guys. However, you and I both know that this isn't always the case.
It's also worth noting that part of what makes the 2/2 guys less scary is that Landstill has manlands. If Landstill spends its counters on weak cards like Jitte, the counters won't be there for either threats that are larger than manlands or Dragon Stompy's -best- answer to manlands, Blood Moon/Magus of the Moon. Either one of those hitting play makes any 2/2 quite able to go the distance.
Then, again, you're playing incorrectly. Landstill should always take that trade if there's only one Jitte'd threat on the board, regardless of whether the Loam or Crucible is active or not.Quote:
Also, if you do not have Crucible/Loam out/active, I'd do that trade as I know that I run 20-24 creatures, and you only run 4-8 removal spells. No need for to over extend into your WoG/Damnation/Deed, I'll just topdeck creatures for Jitte to ride on.
As for removal spells, count again. My Landstill runs 4 Force of Will, 4 Counterspell, 4 Swords to Plowshares, 3 Diabolic Edict, 4 Pernicious Deed, a Crime//Punishment, and 6 manlands to block. In addition, my 4C Landstill has 7 card draw spells and 4 Cantrips. While Landstill will likely have to spend a counter or two stopping Blood Moon, this is largely negated by the fact that Landstill has draw and Dragon Stompy doesn't.
The landstill/dragon stompy MU is heavily based off of skill/knowledge.
There is no way of having a specific strategy against D. Stompy, as the deck can play out totally differently in different games... No draw in the deck oes this sometimes.
For example, the deck could have no accelleration G!, then all their excell game 2 to do some broken shaz... They could also draw threats or disruption in their opening turns, which also makes it play out quite differently... (shut down quick, or have very quick clock).