wurmcoil is always a solid option in any list even without nightmare if BSK is on the table. I personally like primetime and the run.
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wurmcoil is always a solid option in any list even without nightmare if BSK is on the table. I personally like primetime and the run.
Wurmcoil, stormbreath,batterskull and grave titan (currently known as W, SBD, BSK & GT) all share the same problem : without intent in the deck they're one of.
Last year, a team mate and I did bring nic fit a the GVA legacy IV. He played grave titan as his finisher and did poorly , with multiple (non miracle) draws because he didn't drew his titan. I played primeval titan and kessig wolf run. so I had 6 time more finisher in my deck than him (and killing people with a 6/1 explorer after they dealt with the titan was so good ).
I did poorly too but it's because I'm a scrub :tongue:
Anyway now I follow the way of the rhino, so much fun !
Actually, I do. Balls of steel, buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricardio
Decay is a good card but most of the cards you want to kill with it can also be answered by PtE OR Deed. In the case that it's answered by PtE, that leaves you with an extra mana and, more importantly, does not pressure your green mana so you have an easier time doing more than just casting AD for your turn. It also allows you to deal with threats @CMC > 3 (i.e. those Eldrazi bastards, Merit Lage or that-what-troubles-us-in-general). In the case that it's answered by Deed yes, it costs more mana, but you're most likely x for y < x'ing them, creating CA where AD leaves you on parity. PtE also leaves you on parity, but does so for less mana and, again, doesn't pressure your green mana. It's win-win either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricardio
Another thing is that a lot of our stuff is bigger than that ran by most, so why would you specifically want to target the small crap? Especially when you can deal with it with a little creative problem solving. That's also one of the reasons why I forego on Sylvan Library/SDT - with some creativity you can create similar-ish effects whilst wasting less slots. Courser of Kruphix + 20+ shuffle effects functions similarly to SDT (that gains life and can smash face), especially when combining it with that Tracker guy. That in turn frees up slots for other goodies. Or just fills up all slots you have for that stuff, but in return it's all GSZ'able and capable of smashing face if needed.
And yes, there are some niche cards that AD answers that neither of those do, but if you really want to deal with those just extend your reach and run Vindicate. At least that lets you kill JTMS.
I have played about 10 events with it including some bigger ones. and my worst result was twice 2-2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralf
It is mostly Matt's work.
I dont understand the debate - I think we can talk about playing 3 or 4 decay but not playing decay at all is crazy. This card means that we can do well against all the tempo decks (which is most of my field), compete even with their nuts draw, it allows us to stabilize kill whatever on T2 and it canot be countered. It can kill almost anyhitng and it is our "unfair/tempo" card that our opponent cant do too much about. It also kill counterbalance and one of the most frustrating thing is loosing to it.
I agree that we are very soft (JUND) to DD/Thespian Stage eot... Dragon is interesting but 7mana to search for it is a bit too much. As you know I am a strong advocate of Titania. It brings back a land (tower, grove) or puts 10 or even 15 pwr on the board and the fact the she is one mana cheaper is huge. Me having Titania results in my opponent concession3/4 of the time. I also think we need only one big guy/girl as Ooze gets really big in the lategame that paired with pFires, Tusk, even Meren and Shaman is a two turn clock anyway.
Tomáš
Please do understand that Jund isn't Junk and Junk has access to certain tools that Jund can't use but that shouldn't be a reason for Junk not to run it over whatever Jund is stuck with. To mirror your example: When you cast PtE on T2, you leave 1 mana open. That means it has "can't be countered by Daze". Now, if your opponent wants to protect the threat he cast more often than not his only option is FoW, which is an automatic 2 for 1 in our favor using a 1 mana card. I'm OK with this, as our cards usually have more impact than theirs. It also is one hard counter less we have to deal with when we want to cast the stuff they can't beat. We'll come out on top eventually. The worst case scenario after that is that you take some beats during the following turns, until you follow up with a big creature and turn the game around. Life still is a resource you can use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koplinchen
Since I've been running Junk Fit this has been the way I rolled and I've yet to lose my first round to anyDelver.dec (or MUD, for that matter).
Sure it kills Counterbalance, but so do Pernicious Deed and GSZ into Qasali Pridemage. Both CMCs they have a hard time dealing with. Besides, sometimes you can get away with ignoring Counterbalance altogether.
To put this somewhat in context: I've been blessed with a very Miracles-light meta so it isn't something I really need to worry about. I run into it once every other monthly at best.
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Gitgud Toad could be decent in some kind of BG Loam version, possibly could show up in the BUG Reanimator versions with Entomb+Loam.
Being legendary is soul-crushing, though. Started to get really irked about every decent creature that we could use being legendary. Stupid Karakas.
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Just noticed it says, "from anywhere" on the draw clause. There's some WEIRD shit that can be done with that thing with dredge, holy hell. Dredge can very easily go through its entire deck in one shot with that in play o_o
Legendary Frog Horror...what the fucking fuck? Meh, whatever. The guy is pretty good. He's super fat like we want with Spiritmonger, Deathtouch is also fine, and drawing cards when lands die? Seems fine. With Top you can easily feed him lands when you need to. Legendary is balls, but worth trying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arianrhod
Gitrog looks absurd. I'm sure there is some ridiculous list which can be made involving that guy and cards with Dredge. If you have a reasonable number of lands in your deck, he says 'whenever you dredge, draw a card' which has to be busted somewhere.
Upkeep, sacrifice a land. Trigger draw.
Dredge Darkblast. hit a land, Gitrog trigger.
Respond by casting Darkblast.
Dredge Darkblast. hit a land again, etc.
cast X darkblasts and mill 3X where X is your available black mana.
I'm sure this does something stupid.
That's where I'm at with him. He does SOMETHING stupid. I don't know what. It might just be that he's a Dread Return guy for dredge. It might be something else. My spider senses are tingling, though, for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Navsi
@Matt: don't forget that fetchlands will also give you a card draw off of him, as well. Same with Wasteland, etc, although that's probably not relevant to us.
This card is absurdly pushed. I mean just compared to spiritmonger that people were looking to play. The problem is we only really want the abilities but we are paying for the body. Lot of value stuffed into this card. Wasteland and fetches along with loam is great but we typically dont play those cards. Bug midrange/control does but 5 mana is a lot for those decks.
Maybe in a Jund landfall build? Or a combo deck- he kills your opponent straight up with a Dakmor Salvage + Seismic Assault.
TYVM WotC. This is gonna be perfect for the (indeed) landfall build i was already circling around Omnath, Locus of Rage.
Now THIS sounds interesting. Good catch on that combo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Navsi
Definitely picking up one Bigfrog for my deck. May end up only being for casual shenanigans, but the card is ridiculous. I've been looking for a new pet.
Other cards that may have synergy... Courser of Kruphix... Titania, Protector of Argoth... Sylvan Safekeeper... Knight of the Reliquary...
EDIT: That art cracks me up... This is what I see...
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Yep, my head is exploding haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by dave78pdx
this frog horror makes me moist.
Frogs need to stay moist or they die. Are YOU the frog horror?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricardio
if you pay me enough, I can be whatever you want me to beQuote:
Originally Posted by sdematt
Gotta stop lurking and share my excitement over this new bg-froggy. I saw it, and I almost came on my keyboard. I've been for long in the deepest possible love with Titania, and my fav and most played Nic Fit (JUNK) build is mostly built around her. My petcard just got her own favorite pet to play with, KoTRs just got a big beefy friend.
As well as Seismic Assault, Borborygmos Enraged is Zenithable, and goes infinite in the same manner with Gitrog + Dakmor Salvage, but also rather mana intensive.
If we don't have the ton of mana required, is there any other relatively simple way of getting a Borborygmos or Seismic Assault into play if we just mill our entire deck? Because chucking everything in the bin is simple enough if we have Salvage and Gitrog, since Wild Mongrel is zenithable.