What Should I Play In My Metagame?

I am also new in Legacy and I am in the same boat as Sinkhole. I also sway between building up Grixis Delver or Sneak and Show. But I tend a bit more to Sneak and Show, because I prefer the combo style a bit more over tempo and storm combo is to difficult for starting I think. But is Sneak and Show really that bad? It isn`t played that often like Delver but it regulary goes Top 8 and Sneak and Show should have a few matchups were it is totaly in favor, were Grixis is just most of the time 50/50 against most of the field. So is it worth it to invest in Sneak and Show or is Grixis Delver a more solid choice?

Hi guys,

This is what I had in the last metagame breakdown in a nice tournament I played.

Storm/TES - 5
Grixis Delver - 4
UWx Miracles - 4
SaS - 4
Burn - 3
Elves - 3
Dredge - 2
Goblins - 2
BR Reanimator - 2
DaT - 1
MonoR Stompy - 1
Lands - 1
MUD - 1
Aggro Loam - 1
Maverick - 1
Soldier Stompy - 1
RUG Delver - 1
MonoU Show and Tell - 1
BG Depths - 1
Cephalid Breakfast - 1
BUG Delver - 1
Eldrazi - 1
Shardless BUG - 1
Steel Stompy - 1
UW RiP - 1
UWx Stoneblade - 1

With this in mind and going forward to the next event, what should be a good list to play on that ? I'm a Control/Midrange player at heart...

Thanks for the help ! :)

Slightly random question. What do you guys think of playing a RUG shell, composed of the blue stuff, adding to it snapcaster and oyf, plus a splinter twin / deceiver 'gotcha' combo? Would this work in MTGO?

Hey guys,

I need a little bit of help for deciding which deck i better should build as my second. First I wanted to build up Sneak and Show but the prices of Volcanics and City of Traitor had highly increased in the last months, so now I have to spend again 1300 $ ot build the deck together. As an alternate I came to Bu Reanimator. It would me only cost 500 $ because most of the cards i have laying arround. So do you think Bu Reanimator would be a decent choice again after the DRS ban (or maybe better choice) instead of Sneak and Show?

So I'm trying to figure out what to jam my time and effort into post-DRS world. I was on Clashed's Punishing Dack list prior to the bans; his new builds have been neat but havent pulled me as hard.

I've been jamming some Nic Fit and Maverick in the interim; mainly because theyre fun to play - but theyre not as viable as I'd like in a SnS/Miracles meta.

My LGS is pretty meta representative - Miracles/SnS/Canadian Thresh/Storm/etc

Budget isnt a concern. Have access to pretty much all duals / common RL pieces. I'd like to find something that has enough of a ceiling that there's value in jamming additional reps on MTGO.

Help

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So I'm trying to figure out what to jam my time and effort into post-DRS world. I was on Clashed's Punishing Dack list prior to the bans; his new builds have been neat but havent pulled me as hard.

I've been jamming some Nic Fit and Maverick in the interim; mainly because theyre fun to play - but theyre not as viable as I'd like in a SnS/Miracles meta.

My LGS is pretty meta representative - Miracles/SnS/Canadian Thresh/Storm/etc

Budget isnt a concern. Have access to pretty much all duals / common RL pieces. I'd like to find something that has enough of a ceiling that there's value in jamming additional reps on MTGO.

Help

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I've been on the same search and I keep waffling between the following: 4c Loam, Grixis Control, Esper Stoneblade, and Miracles. I like the play style of Grixis Control and 4c Loam the most. I think Esper Stoneblade is underplayed at the moment though.

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I've been on the same search and I keep waffling between the following: 4c Loam, Grixis Control, Esper Stoneblade, and Miracles. I like the play style of Grixis Control and 4c Loam the most. I think Esper Stoneblade is underplayed at the moment though.

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Same line of thinking!
I've got 4c Loam and Esper "sleeved up" on MTGO right now. Still feeling it out though; 4c Loam hasn't impressed but I REALLY wanted to like it. The search continues

Hello everyone,
Starting to get back into the game after not having played in quite a while (since well before the probe/DRS bans), and I'm curious to know people's thoughts on what an "ideal" deck would be for a local metagame loaded up with chalice/blood moon prison decks, a contingent of delver decks of various types, and a smattering of Miracles.

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Hello everyone,
Starting to get back into the game after not having played in quite a while (since well before the probe/DRS bans), and I'm curious to know people's thoughts on what an "ideal" deck would be for a local metagame loaded up with chalice/blood moon prison decks, a contingent of delver decks of various types, and a smattering of Miracles.

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4 Color Loam maybe with Goyfs? I know you said blood moon decks, but you can beat a moon deck as long as you pack enough hate.

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Hello everyone,
Starting to get back into the game after not having played in quite a while (since well before the probe/DRS bans), and I'm curious to know people's thoughts on what an "ideal" deck would be for a local metagame loaded up with chalice/blood moon prison decks, a contingent of delver decks of various types, and a smattering of Miracles.

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Nourishing lich or Paul wall aggro imo.

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Hello everyone,
Starting to get back into the game after not having played in quite a while (since well before the probe/DRS bans), and I'm curious to know people's thoughts on what an "ideal" deck would be for a local metagame loaded up with chalice/blood moon prison decks, a contingent of delver decks of various types, and a smattering of Miracles.

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I feel like Goblins might have a place there. Sure Chalice on 1 on the draw hurts a bit; but you've got game against most of that field.

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I feel like Goblins might have a place there. Sure Chalice on 1 on the draw hurts a bit; but you've got game against most of that field.

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I was actually considering goblins as well.

Thank you everyone for the responses.

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Originally Posted by Megadeus

4 Color Loam maybe with Goyfs? I know you said blood moon decks, but you can beat a moon deck as long as you pack enough hate.

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Definite possibility. I hadn't thought of this...

What of these three decks do you think could be more competitive : 4 COLORS LOAM / TIN FINS DEPTHS / BG LOAM POX? Thank you in advance.

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So my meta consists of like ~12 people on any given legacy night:
2-3 lands
1-2 4c loam
1-3 miracles
1-2 UW stoneblade
1-4 grixis control
1-3 Wx DnT
1 goblins
me on either painter (U stompy, imperial, shortcake, daretti spaghetti.. dependant on what i feel on the day) or solidarity.

What sort of deck would actually be suited to a meta like this? it's a pretty nutty control/grindfest heavy craziness, and they all give me the stink-eye when i whip out solidarity.

Any ideas what i should try to focus on (amongst decks i have or decks that share a similar DNA)?

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Originally Posted by schweinefettmann

So my meta consists of like ~12 people on any given legacy night:
2-3 lands
1-2 4c loam
1-3 miracles
1-2 UW stoneblade
1-4 grixis control
1-3 Wx DnT
1 goblins
me on either painter (U stompy, imperial, shortcake, daretti spaghetti.. dependant on what i feel on the day) or solidarity.

What sort of deck would actually be suited to a meta like this? it's a pretty nutty control/grindfest heavy craziness, and they all give me the stink-eye when i whip out solidarity.

Any ideas what i should try to focus on (amongst decks i have or decks that share a similar DNA)?

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0 combo decks? Kind of looks like a good meta for Burn. Or any deck that preys on fair decks, basically.

My friend's looking to get into Legacy because he hates creatures and this is the only competitive format that scratches that itch. What other decks should I suggest to him besides Miracles, ANT, TES, Lands, Pox, High Tide, Enchantress, and Doomsday?

Wondering if anyone could help with an opinion, I saw some interesting decks, that are quite cost effective on MTGO and that have shown some results. Fully appreciate they are not T1, have holes, will fail against something, but I'm wondering if they are pure dross or actually have something favourable going for them:

Nic-Fit: https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=21401&d=343222

RG Titan Post: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetyp...an-post#online

GWU Enchantress: https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=21493&d=344039

Elves: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1877998#online

Thanks.

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My friend's looking to get into Legacy because he hates creatures and this is the only competitive format that scratches that itch. What other decks should I suggest to him besides Miracles, ANT, TES, Lands, Pox, High Tide, Enchantress, and Doomsday?

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Lands, UW RIP Helm, Belcher, MonoR Storm. He can also do like Stax based on artifacts or on Moon Stompy that works also. Hoogland also played a superfriend deck, that can be a good choice today, with innocent blood and control cards + planeswalkers.

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Wondering if anyone could help with an opinion, I saw some interesting decks, that are quite cost effective on MTGO and that have shown some results. Fully appreciate they are not T1, have holes, will fail against something, but I'm wondering if they are pure dross or actually have something favourable going for them:

Nic-Fit: https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=21401&d=343222

RG Titan Post: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetyp...an-post#online

GWU Enchantress: https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=21493&d=344039

Elves: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1877998#online

Thanks.

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I think elves is extremely powerful, but as one of the hardest decks to play in legacy, I would try it out before to see if you really like its play style. Enchantress is also a great deck, but I would wait on the Narset hype to calm down a bit to play it.
The titanpost seems like a port from modern, I can't give much an opinion if it will do well XD, and Nic Fit has been proved as being a consistent legacy deck enough to see result.

Yo, what decks do you think are good against UWr Mentor Control?

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Yo, what decks do you think are good against UWr Mentor Control?

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That deck is kind of a jack-of-all-trades, master of none. It's more about the sideboards and flex slots than anything else. Cloudpost decks and Eldrazi decks destroy it in the absence of Back to Basics. Graveyard combo decks destroy it if the pilot skimped on graveyard hate. Enchantress destroys it if there are no Narsets. Burn has a good matchup. Nic Fit can go over the top. Elves is probably favored if there aren't multiple copies of Terminus to sweep the board.

Play the opposition deck. I redesigned with the full intent of beating miracles.

You have to work for your wins, but there are plenty of tools and backbreaking cards for the deck.

In this new age of ever changing metagames, driven by the latest bomb printed of the latest set, what is the general consensus (if there is one) of the decks that are less likely to be seriously impacted and that tend to continue afloat irrespective of the waves surrounding them? (this keeping in mind that the metagame to be considered is mtgo)

Thanks.

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In this new age of ever changing metagames, driven by the latest bomb printed of the latest set, what is the general consensus (if there is one) of the decks that are less likely to be seriously impacted and that tend to continue afloat irrespective of the waves surrounding them? (this keeping in mind that the metagame to be considered is mtgo)

Thanks.

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Well mtgo is weird because it's affected differently than paper magic. Mtgo rides hype trains more because the cards are cheaper, for instance I play against a form of Underworld Breach at least 1-2 a league while never playing against it in paper. That aside, the decks I'd assume won't be effected are: delver variants, storm, and reanimator. Other decks that will probably be solid are: stoneblade variants, UW control, Depths variants, and random combo stuff.

UR Delver (plus or minus X) is generally a good bet, where X is probably Black but maybe Green.

Aside that, pretty much up in the air, except maybe also Miracles as next best.

Thanks guys!

I'm about to go to a local store here for the first time (I moved close to it at the start of the pandemic, then it shut down). They posted the last two tournament results, and the players brought the following:

Burn
Infect
Reanimator

UW Stoneblade
UR Delver
Echo Breacher

12 Post/GW Depths
Nic Fit

I plan on running Dredge. However, my boys want to play (I introduced them to Magic during the pandemic). I think I can scrape together some subpar builds of the following (the store allows for 15 proxies):

Burn
Goblins
Elves
Pox
Eternal Life
Storm
Doomsday
Oops, All Spells
8-Walla Madness

I am not sure what else. What two decks do you think would be the best fit for the meta? Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Whoshim

I'm about to go to a local store here for the first time (I moved close to it at the start of the pandemic, then it shut down). They posted the last two tournament results, and the players brought the following:

Burn
Infect
Reanimator

UW Stoneblade
UR Delver
Echo Breacher

12 Post/GW Depths
Nic Fit

I plan on running Dredge. However, my boys want to play (I introduced them to Magic during the pandemic). I think I can scrape together some subpar builds of the following (the store allows for 15 proxies):

Burn
Goblins
Elves
Pox
Eternal Life
Storm
Doomsday
Oops, All Spells
8-Walla Madness

I am not sure what else. What two decks do you think would be the best fit for the meta? Thanks!

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How old are your boys? Probably Elves, Gobbos, or Burn

Yeah, I agree. Elves and Gobbos are fun, powerful, and pretty forgiving of misplays.

They are 10 and 12. I proxied some Legacy decks to play with me to introduce them to the game, so they are pretty familiar with a number of archetypes. Then they started wanting their own cards, and we have played more Commander. My oldest can play most decks competently, but neither are very familiar with sideboarding.

Elves and Goblins sound good. Do you think that Goblins is stronger against this meta than Madness? I am not sure how the matchups go, but I was thinking Madness would be stronger.

Thanks for your replies.

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Originally Posted by Whoshim

They are 10 and 12. I proxied some Legacy decks to play with me to introduce them to the game, so they are pretty familiar with a number of archetypes. Then they started wanting their own cards, and we have played more Commander. My oldest can play most decks competently, but neither are very familiar with sideboarding.

Elves and Goblins sound good. Do you think that Goblins is stronger against this meta than Madness? I am not sure how the matchups go, but I was thinking Madness would be stronger.

Thanks for your replies.

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I think madness hasn't been good since before your boys were born.

Madness actually got way better with MH2:

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetyp...-madness#paper

That being said, I don't think its a generally great deck for children being that it is essentially a combo deck.. You have to aggressively mulligan, be able to read your lines well in advance, call a lot of triggers, and execute relatively complicated sequences properly.

With the ever changing of formats, what's a good investment right now for the future in MTGO?

Some kind of blue shell? UR Delver I assume... You cannot go wrong with that one can you?...