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Turn 1 Jet Medallion/Helm of Awakening consistently casts Peer on Turn 2/3 from my testings.
You can drop the Medallion/Helm pretty easily on turn 1 with Sol Lands or Chrome Mox or an heavy on artifacts build with MOpal and Vault of Whispers.
There is a critical mass of black tutors, Dark Petition, Grim Tutor, Wishclaw, all of them are fine without LED. Even Mastermind's Acquisition.
Dark Ritual/Cabal Ritual and Grim Monolith are plently of mana already.
You can cast this card from 2 life and still win the game.
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Jax-
Turn 1 Jet Medallion/Helm of Awakening consistently casts Peer on Turn 2/3 from my testings.
You can drop the Medallion/Helm pretty easily on turn 1 with Sol Lands or Chrome Mox or an heavy on artifacts build with MOpal and Vault of Whispers.
There is a critical mass of black tutors, Dark Petition, Grim Tutor, Wishclaw, all of them are fine without LED. Even Mastermind's Acquisition.
Dark Ritual/Cabal Ritual and Grim Monolith are plently of mana already.
You can cast this card from 2 life and still win the game.
The answer to the mana cost problem for TES was obvious, cut Rite of Flame for Grim Monolith. It doesn't require a Mountain, gives Metalcraft for Mox Opal and lets TES bank mana for later turns. You go land, Chrome Mox (Imprint), Grim Monolith, Mox Opal, Discard and pass, then untap and Burnish Wish and Lions Eye Diamond will get you there.
I honestly feel retarded for not playing Grim Monolith before this, it's a much stronger card than Rite of Flame if you want to have a better midgame.
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@F.Fortune and others.
lately the latest build I played and was confortable with was (prior to Corona):
4 Burning Wish
1 Echo of Eons
4 Ponder
3 Rite of Flame
1 Ad Nauseam
4 Brainstorm
1 Chain of Vapor
4 Dark Ritual
4 Veil of Summer
3 Chrome Mox
2 Defense Grid
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Lotus Petal
4 Mox Opal
4 Wishclaw Talisman
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Polluted Delta
1 Swamp
1 Bayou
1 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
1 Badlands
side can be:
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Echo of Eons
1 Rite of Flame
1 Tendrils of Agony
2 Abrupt Decay
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Grapeshot
3 Hope of Ghirapur
1 Infernal Tutor
1 Pulverize
1 Crash
1 R. Silence
1 E. Truth
1 T. Seize
...
the deck with EoA was really strong - no many matches really - but it had another concept, this means maximize on permanents - opals and chromes need to max out.
Opal was awesome, even if not producing mana, the fact it was there under a resolved EoA was key - so 4 should be there - I understand switching from 4th to 4th RoF - which I still hate seeing that number in the deck...
Also WT is too good- I think still the card is not played well enough - I saw scenarios where just activating it to bring it the card early exposes the opp. equally a 2x1 as ex.
Latest builds has 1ToA main which is undersntable vs control once played WT us gives you inevitability - that is true. but you'll winn anyway vs those and just prefer 1CoV which is never dead and likely 2 among the 75 should be
things I thouthg later was:
1- IT instead of RoF
2- GMonolith instead of RoF
thoughts on those options are a lot...
I just tested a bit about IT - dont know really - sometimes is better sometimes is worse than RoF...
ex.:
- top deck is just infintely better IT.
- somtimes you overload on threats 1st hand but this does only mean 1 thing - you'll go slower - and even in this sncenario you can just copy DR or LED or play the WT to tranform into LED/DR soon.
- the natural storm game play exist again IT => AN- so in some way it means beeing quicker.
- miss double r for BW =>EtW
- miss some really good RoF t1...
-...
related to GM - no idea in theory sounds good - now even with PITA.
- now even less cards to imprint on mox... likely need to change
- I've been thinking in a 2 RoF 2 GM 2 CM number! no idea...
- ...
as I have no much time and opportunity - I'll see how it goes with one of those options...
Some other thoughts, I've been addng to the side Shenanings and Ingot Chewer - this last is great as it is only 2 under trini/Thorn once landed WT!
likely the build posted is the one I've been most confortable with - it really wrecks hard - likey too hard... but wonder if someone has any opnions on some other stuff...
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In my experience, Grim Monolith is better than Rite of Flame for a midgame and Defense Grid is too easy to play around when you have to go to the midgame.
Wishclaw Talisman doesn't need anythng but Ad Nauseam main deck, if they discard your storm engine then you can just tutor for Burning Wish and post-board problems like Surgical Extraction and Meddling Mage can be dealth with by SBing in Tendrils of Agony etc.
I think way too many people over value Veil of Summer, without Thoughtseize the Swamp loses value and the deck starves for Black imprints. I don't get the point of Badlands without Island either, people seem to be relying on Mox Opal for a stable manabase and that is going to destroy you vs Trinisphere, Null Rod and Chalice of the Void.
I think Chrome Mox and Mox Opal are better than Lotus Petal, even if they are more conditional they let you build up a manabase. I play a lot of blank Chrome Moxes for metalcraft as well, and tend to shave on Lotus Petal and Grim Monolith over other accelerants. Swamp, Chrome Mox and eitherWishclaw Talisman or Grim Monolith and go is a really strong set up.
Generally, I think people need to ne more mindful of playing a Storm deck with a better midgame vs blue and building a deck that is more vulnerable to getting a spanner thrown into the works. People aren't blindly relying on Chalice anymore with Veil as a work around, I see a lot of Thalia, Guardian of Thraban, Etherswon Canonist and Thorns of Amethyst personally but don't be surprided to get Null Rod. The threat of Veil is probably more relevant than actually having it.
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Originally Posted by
Final Fortune
In my experience, Grim Monolith is better than Rite of Flame for a midgame and Defense Grid is too easy to play around when you have to go to the midgame.
Wishclaw Talisman doesn't need anythng but Ad Nauseam main deck, if they discard your storm engine then you can just tutor for Burning Wish and post-board problems like Surgical Extraction and Meddling Mage can be dealth with by SBing in Tendrils of Agony etc.
I think way too many people over value Veil of Summer, without Thoughtseize the Swamp loses value and the deck starves for Black imprints. I don't get the point of Badlands without Island either, people seem to be relying on Mox Opal for a stable manabase and that is going to destroy you vs Trinisphere, Null Rod and Chalice of the Void.
I think Chrome Mox and Mox Opal are better than Lotus Petal, even if they are more conditional they let you build up a manabase. I play a lot of blank Chrome Moxes for metalcraft as well, and tend to shave on Lotus Petal and Grim Monolith over other accelerants. Swamp, Chrome Mox and eitherWishclaw Talisman or Grim Monolith and go is a really strong set up.
Generally, I think people need to ne more mindful of playing a Storm deck with a better midgame vs blue and building a deck that is more vulnerable to getting a spanner thrown into the works. People aren't blindly relying on Chalice anymore with Veil as a work around, I see a lot of Thalia, Guardian of Thraban, Etherswon Canonist and Thorns of Amethyst personally but don't be surprided to get Null Rod. The threat of Veil is probably more relevant than actually having it.
I've had a look at the Bryant WebSite list and how to side just OOC, but was really surprised that he sides out MOpal most of the times... even vs tempo which I find Opals great in thi matchup. - even the numbers where -1CM, -3Opal!!! leaving the deck with only 14 IMS vs tempo!!! - nonsense.
since Veil I stopped to side in Tendrils or GS unless you fight heavy discard, it is perfectly assumable to just protect BW from discard via BS or Veil.
agree DG is good for 3 st turns , however, if resolved - I won't invest as ex. a veil to make DG resolve - a veild under DG is always victory
I've not seen many null rods/oufe lately and really those will wreck te deck even more if you play GMonoliths - that it is true - I saw Bryant side in a couple of decays which is always clunky - I imagine with the goal to not to be countered - my idea is to just to not to overload on dedicated slots to a couple of null rods, just 1 CoV and shenanigans from side or GShot in case of Oufe - both answers have the inevitability thing.
with the deck above it is fine vs control - much more than before - but the deployment need to be quick.
I am really thinking in 0 need of decay and just also add more CoV, etc.
any list?
the latest side is beeing for list above:
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Echo of Eons
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Grapeshot
1 shenanigans
1 PITI
1 Pulverize
1 Crash
1 R. Silence
1 E. Truth
1 T. Seize
1 ingot chewer
1 Defense Grid
EDIT: I'd like to make room maybe to Xantid instead of DG - a couple. over likely HopeOGhirapur - I've seeing lists with Coatl... last time HoG was fine, but don't know if now is ok...
EDIT 2 - maybe this can work: - maybe 2 GM and 3 TSeize?
4 Burning Wish
1 Echo of Eons
4 Ponder
3 GMonolith
1 Ad Nauseam
4 Brainstorm
1 Chain of Vapor
4 Dark Ritual
4 Veil of Summer
3 Chrome Mox
2 T.Seize
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Lotus Petal
4 Mox Opal
4 Wishclaw Talisman
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Polluted Delta
1 Swamp
1 Bayou
1 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
1 Badlands
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Sure,
1 Ad Nauseam
4 Wishclaw Talisman
4 Burning Wish
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 Thoughtseize
3 Duress
4 Dark Ritual
3 Grim Monolith
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Lotus Petal
4 Chrome Mox
4 Mox Opal
4 Polluted Delta
2 Bloodstained Mire
2 Scalding Tarn
1 Swamp
1 Island
1 Volcanic Island
1 Badlands
1 Underground Sea
SB is the usual fair, but I use Hurkyl's Recall a lot. I really dislike Green, but I do keep Hope of Ghirapur in the board. Everything runs pretty smooth, I change the number of Grim Monolith, Duress and Lotus Petals around but other than that I am happy with it.
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This month's "Infernal Tutoring" article is now live, featuring HARLAN FIRER (TWITTER: @HARLANFIRER | MTGO: HARLANMTG)! Check it out, and let me know what plays you would have made in our three latest scenarios.
https://theepicstorm.com/tes-infernal-tutoring-41/
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hi, liked latest hand from here:
https://theepicstorm.com/matchup-mul...titanic-dryad/
HAND NO. 10: (ON THE PLAY — MULLIGANED TWICE)
Mox Opal
Chain of Vapor
Brainstorm
Wishclaw Talisman
Dark Ritual
Chrome Mox
Lotus Petal
my answer:
really depends on the chances to draw them chalice - dont know much the deck, then i like these 2:
1-bottom BS and CoV, play opal, CM ( no imprint ), Petal, then WT under petal+Opal - this leaves with DR+Opal mana for AN - a topdeck LED means wins.
2-bottom BS and DR play opal, CM ( imprint CoV ), Petal, then WT under CM+Opal - this leaves with 3permanet mana for AN - a topdeck LED means wins.
a chalice at 1 shuts down 1) so 2) is better. - dnt know if they play diamond...
need to play more often... I thguth on corona era I finally was going to play MTGO... but too lazy. what a shame about MWS...
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I was fortunate enough to make top 8 of the Legacy Challenge today. My games were a blast! Honestly, if you were to watch any of my videos — watch these.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYSR...CfDkHswhlpyL3x
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Originally Posted by
Bryant Cook
Congrats! Fortuna Eruditis Favet.
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This month's "Infernal Tutoring" article is now live, featuring CHRISTOPHER VIRULA (TWITTER: @CHRIS_VIRULA | MTGO: COMETA183)! Check it out, and let me know what plays you would have made in our three latest scenarios.
https://theepicstorm.com/tes-infernal-tutoring-42/
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The tutoring Bryant does of Anzi is excellent content.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7bJzYf25KI
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This month's "Infernal Tutoring" article is now live, featuring JEREMY HINES (TWITTER: u/THEWORDISBRANCH | MTGO: JEREMY_HINES)! Check it out, and let me know what plays you would have made in our three latest scenarios.
https://theepicstorm.com/tes-infernal-tutoring-43/
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The new mythic lands are pretty interesting, likelyhood is they'll be Sorcery/Land types based on their cost. That said, would anyone want to be able to Burning Wish for a land to hit drops? Fairly niche, but Burnish Wish is technically a mana fixer now and the other half of the card might be relevant.
Edit: Feed the Swarm looks decent as well
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This month's "Infernal Tutoring" article is now live, featuring NATHAN GOLIA
(TWITTER: @N_R_G | MTGO: VINCENTADU1TMAN )! Check it out, and let me know what plays you would have made in our three latest scenarios.
https://theepicstorm.com/tes-infernal-tutoring-44/
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TES 10.8 is essentially a bug deck post board against delver now, with 4 carpet 4 veil 2 decay but 0 rof 4 wish. Except for pulverize, having 3 red duals but only 2 green ones (each only fetchable by 3-4/7 fetched) seems awkward.
I mentioned it on reddit, but perhaps it would be worth testing switching rite of flame to tinderwall and the mana base from UBRg to BUGr (4 verdant 1 mire 0 badlands 1 bayou).
Bryant cook did mention it requires 2 G ims on the combo turn sometimes, but it also means you can combo with 0 R ims. Looked at a few sample hands on the website; this one seemed improved:
Delta, b.wish, drit, led, rof, via, wishclaw. With bayou and tinderwall here can cast any of your spells instead of Rof $ badlands. Leading out on tinder wall Let’s you t2 veil into echo if the Opponent has no t1 removal, and if answered/countered you could go off with veil into rit echo with a sea or swamp top deck unlike if you fetched for badlands and your rof was dazed.
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Going through some more example hands:
Chrome mox, vosx2, rof, b.wish,ponder, led.
If that rof is a tinderwall, it lets you imprint veil for a turn 1 echo with a land drop floating. Now you may want to mull that hand anyways but it’s better then unplayable.
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the bad thing about TW is that you cannot chain into TW as aopp to RoF.
I tried several things in the form of GMonolith, the problem was it costed me 1 game because of its CMC - tried also to max out Opals and taking out Tendrils, and in the end I felt RoF seemed less worse. but I liked GMonolith it was super powerfull, maybe I should invest more time in that approach...
happy new year to all!
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I was playing TW during the Lurrus era. I think it’s a good compromise if you want to play 1-2 of that effect, avd then the chaining problem isn’t really a problem.
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Originally Posted by
Pelikanudo
the bad thing about TW is that you cannot chain into TW as aopp to RoF.
I tried several things in the form of GMonolith, the problem was it costed me 1 game because of its CMC - tried also to max out Opals and taking out Tendrils, and in the end I felt RoF seemed less worse. but I liked GMonolith it was super powerfull, maybe I should invest more time in that approach...
happy new year to all!
Monolith builds are the best I've played, their mana base and middle game are rock solid.
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Alex McKinley (@vivarus_) reviews his MOCs Legacy Qualifier TOP 8 FINISH!!! With main deck Carpet of Flowers AND no Rite of Flames.
This is a video you won't want to miss!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Pu...l=TheEPICStorm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Final Fortune
Monolith builds are the best I've played, their mana base and middle game are rock solid.
Hi,
can you provide me your current 75 - I wanna brew something new - I've been tinkering with GMonliths and they have their pros and cons - no much time to spend on MTG...
I'm more likely inclined to a 4veil/3TSeize disruption, but 7discard is something I don't discard - the thing I am more worried about is opp. Veils, how do you handle this? I in theory do not see a way to overlap this...
let me know a quick howtoside vs 3shold, urzas, 4colorcontrol, miracles
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Originally Posted by
Pelikanudo
Hi,
can you provide me your current 75 - I wanna brew something new - I've been tinkering with GMonliths and they have their pros and cons - no much time to spend on MTG...
I'm more likely inclined to a 4veil/3TSeize disruption, but 7discard is something I don't discard - the thing I am more worried about is opp. Veils, how do you handle this? I in theory do not see a way to overlap this...
let me know a quick howtoside vs 3shold, urzas, 4colorcontrol, miracles
Same list as before, I change the numbers here and there but it never makes a real difference. The Veil deck has better disruption, so you have to take the time to discard it or force them to cycle. They probably have the edge, but I don't worry about combo mirrors so much as beating counter spells. I mean people are running MD carpets fwiw, so the whole building up a manabase thing has merrit.
SB is really up to you, I am a bit out of the loop these days with a new baby in the house.
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Originally Posted by
Final Fortune
Same list as before, I change the numbers here and there but it never makes a real difference. The Veil deck has better disruption, so you have to take the time to discard it or force them to cycle. They probably have the edge, but I don't worry about combo mirrors so much as beating counter spells. I mean people are running MD carpets fwiw, so the whole building up a manabase thing has merrit.
SB is really up to you, I am a bit out of the loop these days with a new baby in the house.
I wish you all my best FFortune!
yesterday played a local and went fine - standar list with veil/Echo, only added 2 truths instead of CoV for thse cjalices/karns, it worked really well...
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Hi TES stormers!
the other day I tried a build consisting in -4RoF = +4th Opal, 3 Tinder Wall! and really don't know how much relevant they were but it was successfull!, I believe it is more because of 4th Opal than other thing, I really believe there is a strong tension between 4th Opal and 4th RoF, and finally determined it was going to be 4th Opal. really love the fast deployemnt opal offers and want to have it in my initial 7.
Another good change I've been stablished in the side is: Old friend Vexing Shuser!!!:
- lately some Counterbalance decks I've been facing and VS with all the fast mana deployment + Carpet of Flowers has been an all star vs all those DD, CB and excess of counters in the form of fow, fon, fluster.
- also is a decent answer against chalices.
- can be played proactively and pass turn to save mana or the same combo turn,
- the goal is to cast a veil under vexing and things should go much easier from that.
another thing I've been doing is to cast wishclash and activate it ASAP, having in mind possible answers - the curious thing is that most of the times opponent is reulctant to activate it in the next turn, so you save mana or will have another answer, the more I play WT the more I like the card... some scenarios involved hate permant cards and just activating WT into decay, next opp activates into another hate, and next activate for 2nd decay is just a good chess move!
have all a nice day!
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I asked them about tinderwall in the past. Vivarius seems to think the difficulty in chaining them and holding up veil is not worth it.
One alternative I had was jeweled amulet. It helps opal a lot, and is an additional green and black IMS.
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Originally Posted by
Reeplcheep
I asked them about tinderwall in the past. Vivarius seems to think the difficulty in chaining them and holding up veil is not worth it.
One alternative I had was jeweled amulet. It helps opal a lot, and is an additional green and black IMS.
in deed, I' ve not played too many games to reach that conclusion, this was my main conecrn however, when playing I think it was irrelevant to play TW or RoF during the matches.
the thing is: If I am going to play 4 TW/RoF, sure I'd play 4 RoF, but along the time I am just preferring to go with 4 opals, then 3RoF/TW, sure If I have to play 2 TW the same turn and protect with Veil I need 3 G IMS, and that would be a problem, but don't think that scenario will happen too much.
Some Pros I've found:
- potentially can be a +RR if unchecked
- it is potentially Instant Speed
- can be used to avoid life loss
- can be used proactively to be played vs hatebears in 2nd/3rd games as Swords will go out and then will save mana
- TW somehow seems to be more casteable than RoF with manabase current - that is a feeling.
I've been trying als some GrimMnolith builds and they are fine, but still have issues with lifeloss and taking out Tendrils/Echo doesn't seem to me a good move.
anyway, Vexing Shusher seems to me good right now, will experiment more with this...
Another thing I've been doing is vs control just side out all CM, with all those FoW/FoN + flusters , doesn't seem viable to try to win quick with CM... just want to avoid CDisadvantage as much as poss.
EDIT: no, jeweled amulet does nt worth even evaluation. GrimMon is the GoTo if goal is to max out on artifacts - once considered on SnowSwamp + Astrolabe, but same.
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Hi all!
definately Vexing Susher will remain in my side,
likely it is the best card you can draw vs for example Miracles. all you need to do is: Susher + Veil of summer, the other day 8 spells on the stack occurred during Vexing susher deployment and finally Susher prevailed! it was in deed a great matchup! I needed to pass the turn anyway with among other things 1 swords on the stack and opp having 2 WT in his power, he decided to pick up balance + surgical to my Decay, but on my next turn I picked - you guess: 2nd Susher + veil and won.
Also, realted to TW, a case scenario that occurred to me was: 5 turns avoiding damage from Hullbreacher!
by te moment I'm happy with the 75, and preferred Echoing truth over CoV just because everybody seems to play Chalice at 1. I still am figuring out how to deal with those Urzas hell decks... which seems to me the worst match up out of there...
keep storming bros!
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hi guys,
I just read the card Galvanic relay, and saw whoa, a cheaper minds desire and on RoF colors, not possible, a fake, likely redisign of TES completly or await banning?,
next I was told to re-read the card and thought, well read is tech.
but next I was thinking in scenarios about the card and just concluded it was going to be in side no matter what I'll expose:
- lately I've been playing like 3 Tnder Wall 4 opals, 3 CMoxen and fine
- I consider the card more for a MidToLate game changer OR as a PlanB against an expected daze/s pierces or not counters BW scenarios, soemtimes they counter, but sometimes not - so it can somehow be considered right now as a must counter incase you expect or plays as BW to be countered, but it doesnt - and not pick up let say a Tseize - It can really acts as a TSeize now
- it is just 3 silly mana 2R..., I am just thinking in going back to RoF or even to Baubles (3maybe is the number) as the idea behind is to just NOT invenst resources at mid game so that you just generate storm + dont invest resources like: Opal, Baulbe, LED, BS, THIS, (sure sacrifice bauble for next happy turn!) just providing the next turn a reaaaally smoother win... -->really dont want to invest a LED when playing this, thats the general idea behind!
- It reads storm and it is asymetrical, as opposite to Echo, if you past the turn, you dont make the opp to refill his/her hand but you do!, mayb I am too optmistic, but if invested near 8 spells or 9 and you dont reach 10NoTendrils , containing number from invested spells/resources from opp. it is just the nuts... (NOTE same mana as Echo+dont need to iscard+asymetrical)
- it will be a great play to justjam BW for this, liley opp doesnt counter and you just dont have any other prot spell, but doesnt matter and will be much more devastating than a perfectly-counterable PITI..
-I have to say in my last 5To6 tournaments didnt use EtW and last one I just took out from side - nonsense? maybe, but I just dont find the need of EtW right now, Echo is safer and sometimes quicker, and seems that everboyd is well packed vs EtW or just other ways are jut better and safer.
- it really makes the deck to play in a different way, from now on you need to evaluate more if to land stuff or not
onions?
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I've been thinking about getting back into Legacy, and TES seems interesting. Is the deck well-positioned?
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Patrunkenphat7
I've been thinking about getting back into Legacy, and TES seems interesting. Is the deck well-positioned?
The London mulligan's fucked everything into the ground. Play All Spells.
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Patrunkenphat7
I've been thinking about getting back into Legacy, and TES seems interesting. Is the deck well-positioned?
The deck is a bit difficult but it is great. Bryant and Vivarus are in the top8 almost every weekend. Chant gives them game against other combo decks and veil + galvanic relay makes it great postboard vs blue.
You will get way more info on their website though. the deck gets to play 4 “black lotus”, “time twister”, 6 Mox, and now 4 “minds desire”.
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Originally Posted by
Reeplcheep
The deck is a bit difficult but it is great. Bryant and Vivarus are in the top8 almost every weekend. Chant gives them game against other combo decks and veil + galvanic relay makes it great postboard vs blue.
You will get way more info on their website though. the deck gets to play 4 “black lotus”, “time twister”, 6 Mox, and now 4 “minds desire”.
Thanks for the helpful info!
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Managed to make it back stateside in order to get some kitchen table top and local legacy in, went back to a more traditional URB list.
1 Ad Nauseam
1 Echo of Eons
1 Empty the Warrnes
4 Infernal Tutor
4 Burning Wish
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
3 Thoughtseize
3 Duress
2 Cabal Therapy
4 Dark Ritual
4 Rite of Flame
4 Black Lotus
4 Lotus Petal
4 Chrome Mox
4 Polluted Delta
4 Scalding Tarn
2 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
1 Badlands
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Grape Shot
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Peer Through Depths
1 Echo of Eons
4 Galvanic Relay
1 Massacre
1 Pulverize
4 Chain of Vapor
I went for maximum redundancy and efficiency, the plan with the manabase is to bluff Force of Will and Daze and tank Wastelands. I don't think a 4 color deck is worth Veil of Summer and Autumn's Veil, and just prefer to streamline down to 3 colors and discard. The deck has held up well for me, is faster and I would encourage other people to try it.
Edit: Gave the discard a little more punching power vs SBed counters.
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Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
Does anyone have a good list with City of Brass? I'd like to dust off my Arabian Nights set if possible, but I'm not sure if the Cities are viable anymore.
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Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm
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Patrunkenphat7
Does anyone have a good list with City of Brass? I'd like to dust off my Arabian Nights set if possible, but I'm not sure if the Cities are viable anymore.
Some number of City of Brass and Fetchlands are interchangeable for a deck supporting green, it increases over all mana stability at the cost of losing shuffling effects for Braintstorm - pick our poison carefully