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What is your list for now?
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Nice finish! :D
What is your list for now?
4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Dark Confidant
4 Stoneforge Mystic
2 Phyrexian Revoker
1 Shriekmaw
1 Spirit of the Labyrinth
4 Thoughtseize
3 Liliana of the Veil
3 Vindicate
3 Lingering Souls
1 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Batterskull
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
2 Hymn to Tourach
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Scrubland
1 Bayou
4 Marsh Flats
2 Windswept Heath
2 Verdant Catacombs
1 Bloodstained Mire
2 Swamp
1 Plains
4 Wasteland
1 Isolated Chapel
SB:
1 Enlightened Tutor
2 Rest in Peace
1 Pithing Needle
1 Choke
1 Engineered Plague
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
2 Zealous Persecution
2 Disenchant
2 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2 Perish
Spirit in the main as a random hoser against blue decks, and if I play against a combo deck I can ETutor it up post board. I could also see it being a Tidehollow Sculler. Finally acquired a Sword of Feast and Famine, and I found myself boarding it in a lot. -Jitte +Sword vs combo/Control decks, and a lot of the time the fair decks were running green dudes so I swapped swords there in those MUs. Also it helps men get through vs Elves. I feel like for a 22 Land deck, my curve is fairly high with 3 Vindicate, 3 Lingering Souls, 3 Liliana, a Sorin, SoFaI, BSkull, and Shriekmaw, but it seems to be working. I guess Deathrite + 3 basics helps, though I do find myself having to hold back wastelands to use for mana a little bit more often than I'd like. I should probably find a cut for the 23'rd land.
Also went through my PW Point history at all of the tourneys I have played with the deck so far (excluding bad Deaths Shadow iterations) and I am 43-17-7 with the deck (all 7 draws are ID's). So 71% Win Rate in games that I actually have played.
Glad to see you like the feast and famine as well. :P
Nice. Killing an Emrakul with Shriekmaw off of a show and tell feels great.
Hmmm....no karakas in the 75? Granted, we can't fetch for it but having an out to Emrakul, Iona etc. is always nice. And being able to protect say a Thalia is a bonus.
Took out a Duress for a Pithing Needle. Less combo these days and more Miracles. LOL, played in a small tournament and it named Weathered Wayfarer. So didn't do too much. As far as Council's Judgment....meh so far. Killed stuff that Vindicate could have done. But I'm sure when I can kill a True name Nemesis with it, it will feel great.
I don't think I have ever cared enough about True Name that I wanted to have council's judgement. I am iffy on karakas. On one hand, like you said, it is an out vs. SnT. On the other hand, it is another non black source that can't be fetched and gets Wasted. I'm sure it's probably fine. I just hate losing to mana screw. I could see it being the 23rd land though in place of a spell. Also I like Needle as a way to interact with Thespian Stage decks.
Yeah the deck I was against was a junk Dark Depths deck. Would normally have named Thespian Stage with needle but he played a turn 1 Mox Diamond into Wayfarer and passed the turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeus
I also like Needle vs Miracles. I still have and will board in my Revokers vs Miracles but Needle is much harder for them to get rid of than Revoker.
Fair enough on Karakas. I do mention that I could save my Thalia, but that situation hasn't come up yet. However, I do lucksack quite often with Karakas when I really need it like vs Show and tell decks or Dark Depths.
May consider a Feast and Famine in the board. Against Combo, Stoneforge isn't that great. But adding a Feast and Famine would be nice additional piece of disruption. Do you find it's not too slow vs combo?
Yeah Miracles is another one where I like Needle in addition to Revokers (just got my first russian revoker! Too bad it's an M15 one BOOOOO)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilkin
Like I said, I wouldn't mind having a Karakas in a more SnT heavy meta. I honestly just haven't needed it. I am not exaggerating when I say that I have not lost a match to a Show and Tell deck yet with this deck.
As for Sword of Feast and Famine, it is a tad slow, but it being so good in multiple match ups and incidentally also being good enough to slot in over Jitte in combo match ups makes it a fine SB card imo.
Honestly, I almost want to just put the Batterskull in the SB just because I fetch up the other weapons much more often, but BSkull does tend to take over a game.
Could you please elaborate on this? How do you go about winning so handily?Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeus
Discard is pretty good against them. Their deck is so inconsistent if you attack with it different hate. When you have a mana denial strategy with Wasteland and Vindicate, plus discard in TS and Hymn, plus I play Main board Revoker which has been key in winning the MU. So In game 1 Alone I bring hate on 3 different axis's, then SB I bring in Thalia/Spirit of the Lab (whichever I choose to play as my hate bear of choice that week) as another hate spell. I mean I have probably gotten lucky a few times, but whatever. It helps that all of the SnS players I have played against were sub-par.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirrislegend
Gonna play a win-a-mox tournament on sunday. I will run more lands then most.
List:
4 Mutavaults
4 Wastelands
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Marsh Flats
2 swamps
1 Plains
1 Karakas
1 Bayou
4 Scrubland
4 Deathrite Shamans
4 Dark Confidants
4 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Pack Rat
2 Spirit of the lab
1 Batterskull
1 Sword of fire and ice
1 Umezawa's Jitte
2 Lingering Souls
4 Thoughtseize
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Liliana of the Veil
4 Swords to plowshares
Sideboard
1 Enlightened tutor
1 Grafdiggers Cage
1 Rest in Peace
1 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Pithing Needle
1 Stoney Silence
1 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Oblivion Ring
2 Seal of Cleansing
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
1 Disfigure
2 Zealour Persecution
I have really fallen for the rat atm. Sideboard is by far the most difficult thing to build would love to have a cursed Totem for the elf matchup. So many powerful sideboards cards but so little room.
Cursed Totem in your Deathrite/Stoneforge/Pack Rat deck seems bad
Sure but they take way more damage from it. But Im going for the zealous instead. Toxic Deluge, engineered explosion, choke and even engineered Plague are other cards I have considered.
Don't forget Perish. You're mostly immune to it. But perhaps the -1/-1 effects are better because you can tag TNNs.
I'm a fan of Perish. Card is nuts. Even against the BUG/RUG decks with Goyfs and gooses it's solid.
Considering the BB costs, I think Fetid Heath is better than Isolated Chapel. Otherwise nice deck, I'd love to try it. What do you think about running the full set of Spirits of the lab?Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeus
The only time that chapel doesn't get you BB is with a plains or a wasteland, whereas heath needs at least the plains to get BB, and with out another colored source it only taps for colorless. I'd consider heath more if I had any WW costing things to go along with liliana and hymn.
Spirit is a pretty solid card, I usually like it as a SB Etutor target, but wanted to fit in the sword so I moved it to main in the place of where I usually would have like Stillmoon orsomething so I can still have access to it via a tutor post board. I would consider more copies if there were more combo though as that's where it really shines.
As i said before my meta is very combo heavy. Did go 3-2 lost to mono g elf and a very close affinty match won against dark maverick, all spells and enchantress.
The rat felt strong race jitte with them againt dark maverick. Manage to syeal a game with combination of liliana against enchantress. The 2 spirits splashed damage against enchantress and turned of the deck pretty much as well be able to attack through elephantgrass. Against all spells i rurned of their way to win and cyclers.
Really do like the 8 discard spells. Lingering souls i cut didnt feel it. Want the against miracles but so much storm that just beat it.
Edit : friend of mine won the sapphire mox with ANT.
Top8 decks contained 1 belcher 2 ant 1 dnt, 1 uwr delver, mud merfolk and rest i didnt see.
21st at scg Syracuse today. 226 players. 8 rounds. Went 6-2. Will post a full report soon. Made the money although was hoping to make top 8. So close. Boo urns.
Nice! I was just thinking that given the amount of UWR delver at the top today it would've been a good tournament for DGA. Did you run your standard list?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilkin
Yeah it was the normal list. Was quite a bit of delver as usual. Still feel dga is good vs the meta. Beat blue/red land still, aluren, merfolk, dragon stompy, bug delver and red white painter. Lost to burn and bug delver. Quite a few varied decks I faced. Only burn was a lost cause. The loss to bug delver was close.Quote:
Originally Posted by maharis