Do you guys not run graveyard hate in the board? I probably should play grafdiggers. But really, is 1 enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bed Decks Palyer
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Do you guys not run graveyard hate in the board? I probably should play grafdiggers. But really, is 1 enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bed Decks Palyer
Thx,Quote:
Originally Posted by haloquaero
the BURg games were very tight! Really close and thrilling! Both games OTD :rolleyes:
Game 1: I bolted his Delver and he decayed my Goyf, I dazed his TNN , after that we both had about 5 turns with Draw->Go because we both drew only counter and lands, then I drew a Mongoose and the counterwar began, then i cutted him off from black mana i resolved my goyf (he had decay in hand) :cool: My Bolts took care of DS, Delver and I won.
Game 2: He resolved Delver and flipped it and I smashed Mongoose onto the board, after that i stifled and wasted his manabase and then I resolved a Goyf and took care of Delver, I had submere in hand but he never fetched :tongue: Short story I were at 6 life and he at 9. I attacked with mungo and goyf into his snappy and DS he jump blocked both and after my second attack he died because I had Bolt. Funny sidenote: He reanimated in Game 2 a Mongoose of my grave :-)
I boarded +2 REB (because I saw TNN 1st game) +2/3 Submerge -1 Daze -1 Stifle -2 Spell Snare (he had only 2 Goyf MD).
Not a 1:1 detailed report, but it was very close.
The UWr MU was quite easy. Both games OTD again :mad:
Game 1: I forced his Delver on T1, Bolted his SFM turn 3 (before he could activate it) and crushed him with Mongoose.
Game 2: I crushed his manabase with Stifle and 2 Wasteland and killed him with Mungo and Goyf...
I boarded OTD +2 Ancient Grudge + 2 REB - 2 Stifle - 2 Daze I think (not sure anymore).
Yeah the Merfolk MU would have been very interesting, but sadly I got paired down :rolleyes:
Congrats to your stellar finish and thanks for the short report ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Manipulato
I ran 2 Grafdiggers Cage (With a heavy rise of elves) and depending on the meta 1-2 Surgical Extraction.Quote:
Originally Posted by KobeBryan
Went to 70 Player Tournament this WE. Sadly went 3:4:0
1. Match against Burn
I dont really like playing against Burn, sure we have countermagic, but it was still close as hell. If he had decided to attack with one Lavamancer, i would be dead round 3.
2. Match against Storm. I dont know if it was TES or the other one, i cant differentiate between them.
Won both Games
3. Match against Sneak and Tell
In game 1 he managed to resolve Show and Tell with Grisel, i had Delver (flipped) Goyf and 3 Goose, I was at 5 life, he sth about 23 or so. Do I attack? Hmm this Grisel has Trample, no i dont attack as I am dead next round anyway. Well he activates Grisel like 3 times, went to 3 life and then Sneak Attacks an Emrakul. I asked him why he didnt attack me. Well, Grisel doesnt have Trample >.< Owww i felt bad after this one.
Well luckily I won g2 and 3.
4. Match against Death and Texas
Despite bringing in 8 Hate cards (Sulfur Elemental, Ancient Grudge, Needles, Rough) and having 7 Mainbord Burn I lost both games. I was to greedy, Bolted his Mothers instead of Roughing it, because I wanted to get him 2 for 1. Well some time later he had a 3/3 Angel (Serra Avenger?) and I was out of Bolts >.<
5. Match against Esperblade
I lost both Games and this Match was really annoying, my opponent was, kinda nice, but really reaaaaally way to competive for my liking. And he sat between two of his friends, they, too, were like him. For example (not my match but next to me): Emrakul attacks, Trigger gets stifled from the competive one, then he realizes that the Trigger wasnt announced, he immediatley called for a judge. Sure he is right with that, i wont argue about it, but cant one look over that? I mean he even stifled it right away, it is not like a, lets say, Ichorid Trigger, which one can forget and well, happens.
(Btw he played RUG, too, so if you read this, I dont want to say that you are not right or so, I just wanted to point out that I didnt like the atmosphere at that table at all^^)
6. Against bUrg
First round I lost because of my one of Shocklands :(
I lost game 2, too
7. Against Lands
Lost 2:1 against him.
Yeah that's it, after the short euphoria that i was 3:0 at one point, I lost all my other matches, sadly :frown: , but thats Magic, and all in all in was a fun day
Went undefeated in the swiss of a 50 people tournament yesterday, then painfully lost the quarter finals to DnT.
Here is what i brought:
4 Delver
4 Goose
4 Tarmogoyf
4 BS
4 Ponder
4 Bolt
4 FoW
4 Daze
4 Stifle
2 Pierce
2 Spell Snare
1 Rough/Tumble (really liked R/T and I'd play it again, since it feels like it does what Forked Bolt intends to achieve, just better)
1 Sylvan Library (surprisingly MVP)
4 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
3 Tropical
3 Volcanic
4 Waste
SB:
1 Rough/Tumble
3 REB
3 Submerge (only casted it once in seven rounds, will probably reduce them to 2)
2 Fluster Storm
1 Life from the Loam
1 Sulfur Elemental (will be 2 next time around - due to losing to DnT in the top8, hehe)
2 Pithing Needle (MVP SB choice)
2 Ancient Grudge
Here's what I remember:
R1 VS. UWr Miracles
G1: I scoop to Jace and RiP on an otherwise empty board (Terminus) with no cards in hand.
G2: I cannot apply serious pressure, but he draws crap and a single Goose eventually gets there after Needle shut off Jace.
G3: Turn 4 he slams down a scary Blood Moon, which I cannot counter and am ready to scoop it up despite having a Tarmogoyf on the battlefield. Then I realise Island is his only basic land --> cakewalk.
R2 VS. UWB Fish (featuring Bob, Sculler, Hymn etc.)
G1: Bolt his dudes, Stifle Liliana's -2 gets there.
G2: 4 Lingering Spirits alongside a Jitte are a pain in the butt, but Stifling 2 triggers eventually alow me to smash face.
R3 Vs. MUD
G1: His first turn: Ancient Tomb --> Grim Monolith --> Trinisphere should be gg, luckily though I opted to keep a 4 lander featuring two Wastelands, which buy enough time to ride a Delver to victory.
G2: I recall Ancient Grudge being crucial. And Chalice at 2 doing nothing to stop my insect.
R4 VS. Mirror
G1: I draw more Geese
G2: I draw more Geese
R5 ID
R6 ID
Top8 VS DnT
RiP kills me twice. That card makes me consider enchantment removal.
Congrats!Quote:
Originally Posted by Manipulato
Depending on the particular list, it may be good against Maverick. They are not really fast (unless they go berserk with KotRs) and their Jitte/BSkull are annoying. Funny thing is that they'll play their StP long before we'll get Vortex online, so we might be lots of life points ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by haloquaero
I wouldn't rely on a Vortex and I don't feel it is a wincon, but rather it's a losecon - it won't win you the game on itself, but it will prevent them from winning via their lifegain artifacts.
As such, Vortex is useful against any kind of deck that gains life (except for Storm, their lifegain doesn't matter), so I may consider siding it even against MUD.
I don't run any. My meta is devoid of grave decks. But if I'd needed gy hate, I definitely would not play Relic, as it hurts us and the potential gain (read: killing opposing Goyf/s) isn't worthy the trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by KobeBryan
So, it'll be either Extraction (overall good effect, can't be Stifled/Needled/Chained, looks through their deck), Crypt (suppresses threshold, eats gy in resp to disenchant effects, removes Bridges) or Cage (can't be played around, does work as long as it is in game, sidehate against GSZ.dec). Numbers? Depends on meta. I remember playing four Crypts... and it still wasn't enough sometimes.
I'm not sure what's the ruling on annihilator triggers, but maybe if the opponent forgotten to announce it, then Competitive Guy needn't to waste his Stifle. So yeah, I do understand his intentions and as long as he did nothing wrong (like kicking the other guy under table to distract him), it's Emrakul's Guy who needs to take care of triggers... amirite?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitzkreuz
On your result: well, you take it like a true sportsman! :smile:
Interesting list! I'm not sure if I like it yet, but it's really interesting!Quote:
Originally Posted by klaus
I already wrote about Sylvan Library, imho there's a finite number of cantrips/filtering that a particualr deck might play, and I'm not sure if Thresh needs more Ponder-like effects, moreover ones that need time to work, but seen how you liked it, I won't argue. After all, I got very pretty Chinese ones, so maybe, maybe... :smile:
On the Rough main: it all depends on meta. If your lgs is full of tribal aggros, then ok, lets play some one-sided WoG. Otoh, Forked Bolt might kill those whom roguh cannot: players and PWs (not that it happesn too often) and it also cost one mana less. but well, the ability to remove more than 1 or 2 creatures at once, and especially the ability to kill several DRS and/or Mongooses... well, this shouldn't be overlooked!
RiP is the only card for which I consider playing KGrip. Not thart the split second matters, but if I'd use enchantment removal, then lets play the one that can kill CB.
Yeah, sure he was right, I hope I made that clear enough, as I dont want to insult him in particular, especially after he tried after his Game to make up for it with his opponent. I just wanted to describe that competive atmosphere at that table.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bed Decks Palyer
And if you wonder what the judge said: Apparently, because the noun says "Whenever Emrakul attacks..." the trigger happens, wether anounced or not, as far as I got that right ( I was focused playing my own game after all, or more like I was focused getting the crap beaten out of me^^)
Uhm I was this guy and I don't know what happened in my head this game. Normally I never call the judge and be like an asshole like this. After game one I apologized for being such a dickhead and asked for reseting the bad Karma. So game two went into a really nice and fair game and after the game we talked a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitzkreuz
I really don't know what happened there and I feel sorry for breaking the fun of game one.
Maybe I was frustrated by the game before, or just stressed being a dad since four months.
At least you have to announce the Anhilator Trigger but it's not a trigger you can forget, so you'll get a waring but the trigger resolves.
Carsten's article on the subject might be helpful perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitzkreuz
http://www.starcitygames.com/article...-Storming.html
This was indeed helpful,thanks :-)
Did he post his how to play storm article,too?
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Re: Sylvan Library. I used to play it in BUG, as a sideboard MVP, but I'm not sure I want to have it in RUG. For one thing, without DRS, and with fewer lands, mana is tighter in RUG, and tapping out for something which doesn't directly impact the board in the way that a 4/5 would do seems bad IMO.
Sure, as a sideboard card it might be great against control matchups.
I don't think this is correctQuote:
Originally Posted by MethadronGer
That was the ruling by the judge at the tournament. I asked a judge later in a German forum and he said that you'll have to make sure that you didn't forget the trigger. So the best way is just say trigger on the stack. I don't know why they changed this ruling from announce you triggers to this shut we have now. So if I told him I want to declare my blocks and he says ok, he forgot the trigger and the trigger doesn't go on the stack.Quote:
Originally Posted by HammafistRoob
Played the stock list at GP:DC with 2 TNN in the board over jace and zuran orb. Was 11:2 going into round 13. Lost my last 2.
Weekend went two byes plus beat 2 sneak and show, UR tempo, deathblade, mono-black devotion (day 2 with gray merchants, nykthos, phyrexian obliterator), dredge, BUG delver and affinity.
Loses on the weekend were to Patriot, Sneak and Show, Shardless and Deathblade.
The deck is still solid. Probes are great in large tournaments like this were you have no idea what the opponent is on. They got boarded out a lot though.
Congrats for the good finish :)Quote:
Originally Posted by testing32
Congrats testing32. Were you satisfied with TNN in your SB ? I'm still a bit reluctant about it, just want to know if it worked well for you.
Congrats from Bohemia!
I'm trying to decide between RUG and UWR Delver for an upcoming tourament. Normally I play Miracles or Shardless BUG, but this will be a 0 proxy event so I expect a large number of tribal and combo decks with a fair showing from dredge.
How would RUG fair in this meta? How are the MUs against goblins, elves and dredge?
I brought it in a few times. I didn't see it that often and when I did it never really made an impact.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueP.