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I'm okay with the scrubland, of course sometimes you can get color screw but crucible, kotr and drs help. Not happened often, btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
The idea about sfm is to make every creature we play a good threat equipping it with Sofi/Bs: even a dryad arbor or a courser of cruphix become a danger with an equip on them. Btw crucible or 4° decay could become another creature (another Kotr i think).
I'll screw around with a somewhat similiar list running Stoneforge and see how it goes. Maybe I'll throw in a Sword of Light and Shadow for life recovery and recursion.
I can't say I'm a fan of cutting the Mox so far.
Edit: Maybe including Jitte over SoLaS might be a smarter decision.
I haven't played this deck in a while since I started messing with Grixis variations, but I still play with it in the tournament practice room, I have added Huntmaster of the Fells and so far I like it also I think all these extra OmniTell/Storm hate in the board is not necessary.
What's your current list Lilevo? And what is your sideboard then? I haven't played against Omnitell yet with the deck, but I think that Chalice @ 1 is pretty backbreaking against them. Only thing I see causing problems for us is the fact that we do not have a fast clock, and that they still can summon the big bad boy and just bash in our heads. But unless we incorporate Ensnaring Bridge, I don't see a good solution to Emrakul.
Karakas?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darklingske
No. At least not for the omnitell matchup.
Karakas (can be fetched by knights) deal with Emrakul in this situation, implying ensnaring bridge is not needed; this is what I am addressing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matsaya
It does not deals with emrakull. If you use karakas, they simply play emrakull from omniscience, take an extra turn and attack you while your karakas is tapped.
To be honest, it deals with show-and-tell -> emrakull, but that is not the usual line of play of the omnishow player (and they wont do it if you have a karakas or knight on the battlefield))
I got some impressiv results from my testing build but still tinker with some slots.
Maindeck (most common slots, 2 mox, 2 courser, 2 knights, 2 baloths etc) i have 1 flexslot, i could be the 4th decay (but lejay removed them completly), or another high impact card: siege rhino, garruk relentless, polukranos, world eater
Both creatures can gain some advantage if you will see BUG (Gofy, Decay, Tasigur, TNN) so i like it over a third baloth (or knight, barook already warned for too many graveyard stuff)
Currently i ran the World Eater, what are your thoughts here?
Sideboard i tinker with 2 removal slots (i also play 2 massacre), because i dismissed Weaver+Hyrda (play 1 sigarda), first sketch was 2 diabolic edict, because it only needs 1B and will get gofy, tnn, emrakul and even ddepths combo. The new idea here is, 1 Night of Souls' Betrayal here, because it will kill DnT/Elves/Grixis/Infect etc (against non white, Massacre also cost 2BB). What do you think? Or should i play the common third deluge? (i have 2 main).
I think a third Baloth is excessive. I would try out Polukranos if it has been good for you. 4th Decay is nice, but the deck needs more threats that end the game quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by MD.Ghost
Night of Souls' Betrayal seems too slow against Elves and requires double black. I'm not a fan of that. I'd rather stick to a third Deluge.
@Darklinske: My latest version is close to this one I think I swapped one baloth for the huntmaster http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/283443#online
At least to me most Omnitell games are pretty easy, you try to resolve a lock piece early like a chalice or choke, now spheres I try to put into play off a show and tell unless I have 2 in hand then you can try to bait the first one out. if they get emrakul in play off a show and tell you can GSZ for stingerfling spider post board, pre board it can be a little more difficult if they straight up S&T Emrakul into play turn 2/3, but that almost never happens. The easiest way to beat them is playing like this: opp plays S&T you put trinisphere in play, they put omni, you choke them the following turn :laugh:
I see Tower of the Magistrate being run in a lot of SBs, what's it for?
I usually bring it in vs any SFM deck, MUD, and Affinity.
Any deck that plays equipment, you give protection from artifacts to the equiped creature and the equipment falls off.
Just went 3-1 in a daily event using a budget version with 4 Ghost Quarter instead of Wasteland.
Round 1: Omnitell 2-0
Round 2: Storm 2-0
Round 3: Miracles 1-2
Round 4: 4 Color Delver 2-1
The losses to miracles were because of Elspeth, Knight Errant, which was actually really annoying. Miracles is a good example of a deck where the budgeting really hurt, because I couldn't kill his duals or basics profitably.
Game 1 vs storm, the budgeting actually really helped because he fetched his 2 basics, which I later Ghost Quartered.
Imagine this: It's game 3 against a miracles opponent. Game 1 you crushed them, g2 you got crushed by an early Jace followed by Monastery Mentor. How do you sideboard in game 3 knowing they have monastery mentor? Rolling spoil is left in the maindeck anyways to deal with basic plains, but what other mass removal do you bring in to deal with a Mentor? Do you take the screw it approach and not board in Massacres or Deluges, or do you take the "Outs" route and board some/all of those cards in?
Also, howabout Hornet Queen or Hornet Nest as a sideboard card vs Shardless?
3-1 another daily with budget plug.
R1 Omnitell 1-2
R2 Elves 2-0
R3 Burn 2-1
R4 MUDpost 2-0
Lejay appearently had a new list, but I don't know what to think about it:
Blue splash for Daze? :eyebrow:
interesting application since daze usually supports early game strategies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
trinisphere & choke could strain opposing mana enough for daze to work, so long as you can pay for the daze. daze works with choke nicely.
you can knight out the tropicals once choke's out and you need the land / don't have daze.
Also, the tilt factor has to be off the charts: Your green deck with maindeck Chokes fetches a Tropical Island and counters your spell with Daze.