[Primer] Eldrazi Stompy

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Originally Posted by the_goat

12 players tonight in a bar in Prague...i won 4-0...noloam's list with one slight change in manabase...1 tower of magistrate instead of 3rd Mishra...and 2 zuran orb instead of 2 thorn of ametist

M1 won against 12post...i quickly won g1 with classic aggro approach mimic into fatties...g2 i think I have drawn both my 2 wasteland but I am not sure about it...i remember he had replies for my early treath...like grip for chalice and something else...i see his hand with TKS and i remove s&t leaving him 2 titans...but wastelanding his lonely green source...

M2 i win die roll and I start with eye and 2xmimic...endless one for 4 and my opponent scoops after casting thoughtseize...i have seen only basic mountain...basic swamp...seize...I have no idea on what he plays but I opt for a vs grixis delver side...
4leylines (gurmag/cabal/shaman) 2 ratchet 2 zuran orb
Obviously is reanimator but I keep a fast hand without leyline...
Land ritual seize on himself discard iona exhume...naming black...I have eye into mimic and endless one t1...tks on turn 2 and we are racong each other...last topdeck for me to win needs to be smasher...i draw cavern...g3 goes like g1...to fast for him...a TKS turn2 reveals 2x show and tell but no fatty...my mimic and TKS killed him...

M3 vs 4c delver - quick fast games where chalice dominates the board...i cast 2 of them for 1...killing his 2 strixes with warping wail and winning with good old mimic smasher duo...

M4 i lost g1 against aggro loam...he is super low with lives...but finds thespian stage woth KOTR on the board...blocks my smasher and fetch the combo...
I side 1xkarakas 4xleyline 2x revoker...g2 I win too fast for him that is stuck on lands with ny revoker naming mox diamond...g3 i start with leyline...game is not over and a fast liliana is getting out of control...end of his turn i make a 1/1 token to cover my TKS and remove 1 counter from Lili...I fond another seer and mishra to close the game...

Overall good games...I really hate loam decks...able to win out of nothing...

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gratz man! yeah me to noloam 4 life ;)

you also made a change for the revoker, if i read it correctly. what did you cut? also the question for you: why did you cut the thorn instead of the sphere? the sphere is a worse thorn

Top 8'ed a local legacy event with 26 ppl. Lost 1-2 to painter at the end because of inexperience. I misplayed and didnt atk enough to kill his tezzzeret who ulted. Forgot ult at 4 fml. Should we bother running leylines on them?

The dnt player there said that he felt eldrazi was a bad matchup for them. I guess for them the matchup is really about if they can get wasteland and stoneforge. Its a close coin flip draw dependent matchup.

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Originally Posted by Noloam_

gratz man! yeah me to noloam 4 life ;)

you also made a change for the revoker, if i read it correctly. what did you cut? also the question for you: why did you cut the thorn instead of the sphere? the sphere is a worse thorn

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to be fair i arrived to the bar 10 mins before we were starting our friendly tournament...i just gave a quick glance at my side and i found revokers already sleeved there...i did not even think about replacing them...in regards to sphere/torn...it's funny because i do not own spheres...so i had 2 null rods in my side...but i remembered you mentioning discoballs...so i ripped 2 pieces of white paper...wrote sphere and sleeved them over the rods...but you are right...spheres are bad thorns...so...my sideboard was (and should have been)

2 revokers (should be needles)
2 spheres (should be thorns #3 and #4)
4 leylines
2 zuran orbs (you play spheres instead...but in Prague there are always 2/3 burn players at every tournament...yesterday only one...but i like a lot orbs in the mirror too...)
2 ratchet bombs
1 karakas
2 all is dust

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Originally Posted by the_goat

to be fair i arrived to the bar 10 mins before we were starting our friendly tournament...i just gave a quick glance at my side and i found revokers already sleeved there...i did not even think about replacing them...in regards to sphere/torn...it's funny because i do not own spheres...so i had 2 null rods in my side...but i remembered you mentioning discoballs...so i ripped 2 pieces of white paper...wrote sphere and sleeved them over the rods...but you are right...spheres are bad thorns...so...my sideboard was (and should have been)

2 revokers (should be needles)
2 spheres (should be thorns #3 and #4)
4 leylines
2 zuran orbs (you play spheres instead...but in Prague there are always 2/3 burn players at every tournament...yesterday only one...but i like a lot orbs in the mirror too...)
2 ratchet bombs
1 karakas
2 all is dust

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sweet you can play with proxies :). yeah null rod is not good, it turns of your jittes and factory pomping.


any way your deck worked ^^

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Originally Posted by Noloam_

sweet you can play with proxies :). yeah null rod is not good, it turns of your jittes and factory pomping.


any way your deck worked ^^

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we normally don't run proxy events...but as the legacy GP is in Prague a lot of non legacy aficionados are now showing up for legacy testing...we gather in pubs or bars and we test until you are too tired to think...or until the bar closes!

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Originally Posted by Barook

SFM can be troublesome if they can get equipment online and you don't have an answer. Plus, their mana denial is a bitch, namely Port.

They can also disable Chalice with Flickerwisp or kill an Endless One with it if we're unlucky. I'm a former D&T player, so I might have a different point of view how they can hurt us.

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I have the WG version you run in paper. My buddy plays D&T and I think D&T is slightly favored in our testing. The blink, tap down plus equipment plan is quite effective. If they get the "bad" side of their deck, it can be easy but it also can get grindy post-board. This gives an advantage to their fliers. Winnable, but not easy at all. Shockingly, the best games still seem to be all about T2 Thought-Knot. It is also nice to shut off their moms.

I would guess the speed of the colorless version may give it a better advantage.

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Originally Posted by Noloam_

sweet you can play with proxies :). yeah null rod is not good, it turns of your jittes and factory pomping.

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Unactivated factories are not Artifacts. You can use them to pump. Turns off the block and pump trick though.

the block pump thing is a big deal

A Mishras Factory cannot pump (itself or others) if it has summoning sickness. Many people forget this.


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Originally Posted by TTX

A Mishras Factory cannot pump (itself or others) if it has summoning sickness. Many people forget this.


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The "or others" is only true if the Factory has been activated into a 2/2. If it's still a land, it is not affected by summoning sickness and can pump another factory using it's second tap ability.

Been touring around Europe with my wife so haven't had time to play too much but I have to admit played a lot in March and April so feel good about going to Prague in two weeks. During the past 5 days or so I have tested my old Wb version and Noloam's build (with minor tweak to sb (and lands after talking with Noloam himself)) and managed to 5-0 yesterday and same today with the colorless build. So I think that's the way to go for me as won't have too much time after today either, hopefully some.

Who is coming to GP Prague?

gratz man! i hope we now finally cracked the perfect build

For those of us in the States going to Columbus, I think the Wx build still has merit just because D+T and Lands are very popular in paper here whereas they're pretty rare online due to the price of Rishadan Port. Actully, this is my general suspicion about why the colorless build seems to perform more consistently than the Displacer build, although I could be wrong.

Is there currently a semi-solidified W/x build? I used to play UW in modern so I was hoping to play something similar, but I haven't followed legacy closely in 2 years.

I did glance through the thread, but I didn't see a set-ish list. I was curious about the GW lists that people kept refernencing {i presume that is the W/x builds though}.

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Originally Posted by nodahero

Is there currently a semi-solidified W/x build? I used to play UW in modern so I was hoping to play something similar, but I haven't followed legacy closely in 2 years.

I did glance through the thread, but I didn't see a set-ish list. I was curious about the GW lists that people kept refernencing {i presume that is the W/x builds though}.

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Barook's list is here: http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/416667#paper

There have been many variations on that theme, but that is perhaps the most well-known Wx decklist.

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Originally Posted by Riehu

Who is coming to GP Prague?

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I am. And I hope i'll be able to dodge you and all the other Eldrazi players :-)

Another 4-0 tonight in our weekly gathering @Cerny Rytir in Prague…same list as noloam...

-1mishra +1tower magistrate
-2 spheres in side +2zuran orb


M1 - grixis delver - I arrive to the shop with my opponent and we were discussing the matchup so we well know what we play...I do not remember much of the two games but I think I won both thanks to chalice...g2 my opponent kept land shaman i played chalice via tomb and dismembered shaman he never drew a second land…2-0


M2- merfolks - he starts with catcher into lord into phantasmal image copying lord i drop a smasher and we are racing each other...luckily i drew my mono tower of the magistrate just before he drew second image copying my smasher...i am low in lives but a second smasher closed the game1. I lost g2 to a nemesis into nemesis while g3 i took 14 damages from my 2tombs allowing me to cast in order t1 mimic t2seer attack for 4 t3endless obe for 7 thanks to simian...he started slow with double via and i manage to lock his muta with pithing needle...with him at 1 lofe and e blockers i cast end of his turn warping wail for a token. 2-0


M3 - ur delver thing - i know what my opponent plays as he recently moved from burn into UR delver with thing in the ice...all i need is chalice t1 and to pay attention to Price of Progress...he wins die roll island delver i try tomb chalice and i got dazed...delver does not flip and i steal the game with smasher...he cast price for 6 damage but he needs another one to kill me with delver...luckily it does not happen...g2 i resolve chalice t1 and he loses to seer-smasher duo...he could have cast at sorcery speed a PoP for 6 but he opted to wait...i drew wasteland cast smasher and wasted one land in response to his PoP...I was helped by his choice but I think game was compromised for him anyway…3-0


M4 - nic fit - g1 I lose die roll and he starts forest explorer...i play eye and double mimic...followed by seer...i don’t attack as he this is giving him too much advantage..i draw warping wail remove his blocker and finiah him...g2 i side in leylines but i mulligan to 5 without luck...he has best start possible...explorer into phurexian tower into zenith for witness...recir shaman...i have 3 lands when he has 7!! Two zeniths after I scoop to a compromised board...g3 I say to myself...mulligan into leyline...but I keep 2 temples chalice seer mimic smasher wail...i start with mimic he plays shaman and i play chalice t2...he plays Liliana discard and i get rid of wail...smasher reset board and i finish him...seer reveals a land-heavy hand with no treaths...

He plays ooze and he manages to survive with few creatures removes from graveyard but smasher is 5/5 and ooze 4/4...empty hand i topdeck all is dust with exactly 7 mana and he scoops...to be fair there were no more creatures in graveyards to stop my smasher…


4-0 second time this week...I hope it’s a good trend that will continue till the end of GP next weekend...

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Originally Posted by Riehu

Been touring around Europe with my wife so haven't had time to play too much but I have to admit played a lot in March and April so feel good about going to Prague in two weeks. During the past 5 days or so I have tested my old Wb version and Noloam's build (with minor tweak to sb (and lands after talking with Noloam himself)) and managed to 5-0 yesterday and same today with the colorless build. So I think that's the way to go for me as won't have too much time after today either, hopefully some.

Who is coming to GP Prague?

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Me :) I live 4 metro stations far away from tournament

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Wow Goat, that's pretty convenient :-P I plan on giong, but have still to figure out transportation and lodging... I live in northern Italy right now and pretty much nobody from my local crowd is going. But first there is a pretty big tournament in Milan this saturday, we'll see how our tentacled overlords fare there!

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Originally Posted by SecondSunrise

Wow Goat, that's pretty convenient :-P I plan on giong, but have still to figure out transportation and lodging... I live in northern Italy right now and pretty much nobody from my local crowd is going. But first there is a pretty big tournament in Milan this saturday, we'll see how our tentacled overlords fare there!

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I am actually Italian...from Milan...but I relocated here 10 yrs ago...if you come to Prague let me know...

That was a pretty stacked league run, but still only went 4-1 because variance is a harsh mistress:

R1: Julian Knab on regular Elves 2-0
R2: Colorless Eldrazi 1-2 (G2 & G3 were some of the most unreal draws I've ever seen in my entire Magic career. You could free Demonic Tutor every turn and not draw any better than that guy. :rolleyes: )
R3: Junk Nic Fit 2-0
R4: Jeskai Stoneblade 2-1 (Ziggy Stardust from the Legacy Mediocre League)
R5: Joe Lossett Legendary Miracles 2-1 (G1 I was lucky he didn't set up Terminus as I had a T3 overkill. G2 I had a slow hand after a mull, which didn't matter since he had T3 B2B anyway. G3 I had another ridiculous good start (his rest hand was SDT and 2x STP). Karma for what happened in R2.)

Hi everyone,

sorry for this budget considerations but i need some advices.
I'm trying to get the colorless build in paper (for budget and lack of experience/testing reasons), but so far, I can't afford the playset of Cavern of Soul and the last City of Traitors.

I'd really want to try the eldrazi deck at my LGS, but I was wondering what lands could I get in to fill the CoS/CoT slots ?

My manabase so far is :
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Eye of Ugin
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Mishra's Factory
1 City of Traitors
1 Crystal Vein
2 Wasteland
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

Need 2/3 others lands to fill the gap. Been thinking about Tower of the Magistrate, a singelton of Scorched Ruins, Sea Gate Wreckage, or just Waste as it help against B2B and Blood Moon, but none of those really convice me.
I know these changes will make the build way less competitive, but that's just the problem when you try to put a foot into Legacy I guess :)

Have you any idea guys ? What would you do in this case ?

Thanks in advance for your help ! Have a nice day

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Originally Posted by ChrisDissent

Hi everyone,

sorry for this budget considerations but i need some advices.
I'm trying to get the colorless build in paper (for budget and lack of experience/testing reasons), but so far, I can't afford the playset of Cavern of Soul and the last City of Traitors.

I'd really want to try the eldrazi deck at my LGS, but I was wondering what lands could I get in to fill the CoS/CoT slots ?

My manabase so far is :
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Eye of Ugin
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Mishra's Factory
1 City of Traitors
1 Crystal Vein
2 Wasteland
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

Need 2/3 others lands to fill the gap. Been thinking about Tower of the Magistrate, a singelton of Scorched Ruins, Sea Gate Wreckage, or just Waste as it help against B2B and Blood Moon, but none of those really convice me.
I know these changes will make the build way less competitive, but that's just the problem when you try to put a foot into Legacy I guess :)

Have you any idea guys ? What would you do in this case ?

Thanks in advance for your help ! Have a nice day

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perhaps you shouldnt buy the 2th city. riehu and i agree that it is quite a crappy card. i whould play 2 wasteland extra + 1 tower (if you cant afford those: 2 tower of the magistrate and 1 waste to have a better match vs blade and shardless decks.)

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Originally Posted by Noloam_

perhaps you shouldnt buy the 2th city. riehu and i agree that it is quite a crappy card.

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taking in consideration your latest manabase (same as riehu)
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Cavern of Souls
2 City of Traitors
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Eye of Ugin
3 Mishra's Factory
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Wasteland

and removing one city...what would you add? tower? 4th mishra? 3rd wasteland? karakas? crystal vein?
i personally find the 2mishra/2wasteland/1tower ok...and i share my concerns about the 2nd city as well...I am undecided if it should be replaced by 3rd waste or 3rd mishra...

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Originally Posted by the_goat

taking in consideration your latest manabase (same as riehu)
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Cavern of Souls
2 City of Traitors
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Eye of Ugin
3 Mishra's Factory
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Wasteland

and removing one city...what would you add? tower? 4th mishra? 3rd wasteland? karakas? crystal vein?
i personally find the 2mishra/2wasteland/1tower ok...and i share my concerns about the 2nd city as well...I am undecided if it should be replaced by 3rd waste or 3rd mishra...

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I think this could be perhaps flex land slot. I used 3rd Wasteland in my latest build yesterday. But if you are expecting a lot of decks Tower is good against then it should be Tower. Single Wastes in case of lots of hate etc. Karakas for S&T. I'm still not 100% sure what I will use in Prague. Perhaps single Karakas to have some additional outs vs S&T.

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Originally Posted by kentheide

I am. And I hope i'll be able to dodge you and all the other Eldrazi players :-)

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Cool, let's hope so! :)

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Originally Posted by the_goat

Me :) I live 4 metro stations far away from tournament

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Good for you! I'm still hoping I can make it already on Friday at some point to play trials.

Played noloam's build in a local tourney and reminded me a bunch why I feel like Leagues/Small events are such poor use of time if you are just working on optimizing a deck list.

W Pox
W Nic Fit
L Deathblade (g1, TNN + batterskull. G3 Manascrew)
W Miracles

So I didn't play any of the matchups which i think should determine a "correct" gp build.

I have narrowed down what I consider the relevant differences between colored builds (I have tried UR. WR, R, W) and colorless:

Show and Tell (5-9% of metagame) - Displacer makes a huge difference. Probably single biggest matchup that changes.
Shardless Bug & Jund (8%-10%) - Reshaper better than other 3 drops. But its actually close, since displacer gives you more jace answers. The big difference is that having lands which do something (factories/wastelands/Towers) is very valuable.
D&T (8%) - Displacer is just unreal in this matchup since its an actual answer to equipment. They can still kill your mana, but its net favorable.
Delver (10%) - I like being able to side up to 26 lands vs Delver. So colorless feels better since it has more ways to mitigate flood. The actual cards are basically same.
Mirror (8-10%) - This is a big one, because I expect the deck to be way more popular at this GP than it has been previously. And displacers are almost unbeatable in the mirror if they live.

Likely result is that I flip coin at the GP.

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Originally Posted by toor

Mirror (8-10%) - This is a big one, because I expect the deck to be way more popular at this GP than it has been previously. And displacers are almost unbeatable in the mirror if they live.

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i am not sure about this statement...i suppose you remove chalices from maindeck in favour of better mirror oriented cards...if a pithing needle hits the field naming displacer how does WG remove it? 2 worldbreakers are the only card otherwise the raw power of displacer ability is reduced to a simple 3/3 for 3 mana

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Originally Posted by the_goat

i am not sure about this statement...i suppose you remove chalices from maindeck in favour of better mirror oriented cards...if a pithing needle hits the field naming displacer how does WG remove it? 2 worldbreakers are the only card otherwise the raw power of displacer ability is reduced to a simple 3/3 for 3 mana

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Well I would bring ratchet bomb (you are likely to have enough dead cards that trading 1 for 1 with endless one is fine). So I would expect at least a couple of answers.

And if they needle your displacer you are still up a 3/3 (not worth much but worth something).

But the simple fact is 60% of games they wont have needle, and thats a large percent to have an edge in.

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Originally Posted by the_goat

i am not sure about this statement...i suppose you remove chalices from maindeck in favour of better mirror oriented cards...if a pithing needle hits the field naming displacer how does WG remove it? 2 worldbreakers are the only card otherwise the raw power of displacer ability is reduced to a simple 3/3 for 3 mana

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But you still need to play needles or revokers naming displacer for that to work - and even then your Needle/Revoker + Matter Reshaper is still outclassed by a Displacer. The CA from Reshaper at that point is offset by you needing to invest another card (the Needle/Revoker). Then, they still have the possiblity of landing a WorldBreaker (or ratchet bomb). And that's just the WG version. Obligator makes the WR and WRG versions faster than Colorless and allows for huge kill swings by stealing random stuff.

I'm not saying that Colorless isn't a good build, but I think it does lose in the mirror against colored versions.

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Originally Posted by toor

Shardless Bug & Jund (8%-10%) - Reshaper better than other 3 drops. But its actually close, since displacer gives you more jace answers. The big difference is that having lands which do something (factories/wastelands/Towers) is very valuable.

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You can still have access to all those lands in the white version, I think, if you are OK with running Ratchet Bombs instead of World Breaker in the side. It's not too hard to cook up a mashup of Barook's manabase and noloam's manabase:

4 Ancient Tomb
1 Brushland
4 Cavern of Souls
2 City of Traitors
4 Eldrazi Temple
3 Eye of Ugin
2 Karakas
3 Mishra's Factory
2 Wasteland
3 Lotus Petal

This is 28 sources, so you'd have to shave one nonland card off of Barook's list, which I've been doing anyway because I am risk averse and think 24 land is probably too few. You have one fewer W/G source than Barook here, which is why I said you probably can't run World Breaker. But with 10 sources of white, 3 Displacer is probably fine, especially since it's typically the last creature you want to cast out of your hand (i.e. you usually aren't trying to slam a turn 1 or turn 2 Displacer since it just eats removal without getting any value). You can squeeze a Tower in the sideboard, which is where I think it belongs anyway.

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Originally Posted by iostream

You can still have access to all those lands in the white version, I think, if you are OK with running Ratchet Bombs instead of World Breaker in the side. It's not too hard to cook up a mashup of Barook's manabase and noloam's manabase:

4 Ancient Tomb
1 Brushland
4 Cavern of Souls
2 City of Traitors
4 Eldrazi Temple
3 Eye of Ugin
2 Karakas
3 Mishra's Factory
2 Wasteland
3 Lotus Petal

This is 28 sources, so you'd have to shave one nonland card off of Barook's list, which I've been doing anyway because I am risk averse and think 24 land is probably too few. You have one fewer G source, which is why I said you probably can't run World Breaker. But with 10 sources of white, 3 Displacer is probably fine, especially since it's typically the last creature you want to cast out of your hand (i.e. you usually aren't trying to slam a turn 1 or turn 2 Displacer since it just eats removal without getting any value). You can squeeze a Tower in the sideboard, which is where I think it belongs anyway.

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World Breaker isn't the problem when you cut Brushland as there are still plenty of green sources for World Breaker. Displacer suffers from less white sources. If you wanted to, you could probably cut a City instead. I see it more as an unbeloved, necessary evil than a sacred cow that can never be cut.

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Originally Posted by Barook

World Breaker isn't the problem when you cut Brushland as there are still plenty of green sources for World Breaker. Displacer suffers from less white sources. If you wanted to, you could probably cut a City instead. I see it more as an unbeloved, necessary evil than a sacred cow that can never be cut.

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For sure you could do that, although lowering our Sol land count to just 12 makes me worry. You really don't want to keep hands that don't have some kind of fast mana in them, so every time you cut some of the fast mana, you are increasing the mulligan rate of the deck.

For reference my mana base for the WR(+g for world breaker in the side) is:

-29 mana sources.
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Corrupted Crossroads
4 Cavern of Souls
3 Eye of Ugin
2 Mishra's Factory
2 City of Traitors
1 Karakas
1 Tower of the magistrate
4 Lotus Petal

And it's been working pretty well - even with the tech of Tower and Karakas MD.

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Originally Posted by the_goat

taking in consideration your latest manabase (same as riehu)
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Cavern of Souls
2 City of Traitors
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Eye of Ugin
3 Mishra's Factory
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Wasteland

and removing one city...what would you add? tower? 4th mishra? 3rd wasteland? karakas? crystal vein?
i personally find the 2mishra/2wasteland/1tower ok...and i share my concerns about the 2nd city as well...I am undecided if it should be replaced by 3rd waste or 3rd mishra...

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I whould add another wasteland. The tower plan is not perfect with wasteland in my opinion. If you use wasteland, you have to choose between activating tower and playing a treat. I think i only like the tower in my no wasteland build. I have had good results with both



For the people saying that colorless is bad in the mirror: if your only solland gets wastelanded, you are far from home and displacer is not going to fix it for you then

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Originally Posted by Riehu

I think this could be perhaps flex land slot. I used 3rd Wasteland in my latest build yesterday. But if you are expecting a lot of decks Tower is good against then it should be Tower. Single Wastes in case of lots of hate etc. Karakas for S&T. I'm still not 100% sure what I will use in Prague. Perhaps single Karakas to have some additional outs vs S&T.

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Karakas? I really thought that that hype was over. Ive had situations in which i had eye/urborg/karakas and i was casting no eldrazi's, because of the lack of colorless mana :(

I now ended 4-1 a league :(. I had the one off faerie in my opener vs br reanimate. He opened with thoughtseize into unfair stuff. The faerie had let me down man :(

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Originally Posted by Noloam_

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Karakas? I really thought that that hype was over. Ive had situations in which i had eye/urborg/karakas and i was casting no eldrazi's, because of the lack of colorless mana :(

I am now 3-1 in a league. I had the one off faerie in my opener vs br reanimate. He opened with thoughtseize into unfair stuff. The faerie had let me down man :(

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Yeah haven't tried that in a long time. Perhaps a no go then. Unmask or Thoughtseize are the reasons I don't like faerie anymore as discussed.

Had another league. 3-2 this time.

RUG Delver 1-2 (he went first g1 I played g2 and he won g3) it really depends on who goes first many times
Belcher 0-2 T1 14 goblins and 2nd game T1 Tendrils kill gg
Infect 2-0
UW Eldrazi 2-0 Wasteland MVP (funny that noloam just brought this up)
Jund 2-0

I'm still happy with the build which is this http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/426187#online though I'd like to find room for 1-2 spatials for SB but don't know how. Maybe by removing 1 all is dust and 1 endbringer but not so sure yet.

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Originally Posted by Riehu

Yeah haven't tried that in a long time. Perhaps a no go then. Unmask or Thoughtseize are the reasons I don't like faerie anymore as discussed.

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yes you might be right :(. perhaps the 1 city is also the perfect build as i stated earlier. i love to hear the long run experiences. but i think my discoball package needs them in the combo matches :(