Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
Voice in general might be a nice back up tool for when Nic Fit can't find those Explorers
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
I think Rector would appreciate another threat in the two drop slot so I could see voice being viable
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
Hey all I'm having a bit of an issue with Jund using a pretty generic Rector build. Any suggestions on how to make the matchup more winnable?
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
BUG nicfit
3 Veteran Explorer
2 Eternal Witness
2 Vendilion Clique
1 Venser, Shaper Savant
1 Thragtusk
1 Prime Speaker Zegana
3 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
2 Dimir Charm
2 Curfew
2 Far // Away
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4 Pernicious Deed
2 Underground Sea
1 Tropical Island
1 Bayou
3 Forest
4 Island
1 Swamp
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Polluted Delta
1 Verdant Catacombs
SB: 2 Notion Thief
SB: 3 Thoughtseize
SB: 2 Negate
SB: 1 Force of Will
SB: 1 Scavenging Ooze
SB: 2 Abrupt Decay
SB: 1 Deathrite Shaman
SB: 2 Carpet of Flowers
SB: 1 Scavenging Ooze
What you guys think of this fresh dragon maze BUGfit list? SB just kinda random atm, since havnt playtested it enough to really know what it needs.
The removal suit is very bounce heavy although it synergizes well with witness/thrag/clique and cabal and i've played similair lists before maze and think the far//away addition is actually quite sweet and really makes sense in a BUGfit list trying to MD force, since it helps alot with bluecount.
This list is Beta however and could definetly use some help from you guys although i really belive it has nice potential!
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
plogan
Hey all I'm having a bit of an issue with Jund using a pretty generic Rector build. Any suggestions on how to make the matchup more winnable?
G1 is usually difficult but in our favor, like 51-49 lol. Not sure about Rector though. Keep a hand with good disruption and removal even post-Thoughtseize and you should be fine. I like Obstinate Baloth, but it seems a bit too narrow for my taste. Thrun is the hero here. :laugh:
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
drfontaine
BUG nicfit
3 Veteran Explorer
2 Eternal Witness
2 Vendilion Clique
1 Venser, Shaper Savant
1 Thragtusk
1 Prime Speaker Zegana
3 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
2 Dimir Charm
2 Curfew
2 Far // Away
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4 Pernicious Deed
2 Underground Sea
1 Tropical Island
1 Bayou
3 Forest
4 Island
1 Swamp
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Polluted Delta
1 Verdant Catacombs
SB: 2 Notion Thief
SB: 3 Thoughtseize
SB: 2 Negate
SB: 1 Force of Will
SB: 1 Scavenging Ooze
SB: 2 Abrupt Decay
SB: 1 Deathrite Shaman
SB: 2 Carpet of Flowers
SB: 1 Scavenging Ooze
What you guys think of this fresh dragon maze BUGfit list? SB just kinda random atm, since havnt playtested it enough to really know what it needs.
The removal suit is very bounce heavy although it synergizes well with witness/thrag/clique and cabal and i've played similair lists before maze and think the far//away addition is actually quite sweet and really makes sense in a BUGfit list trying to MD force, since it helps alot with bluecount.
This list is Beta however and could definetly use some help from you guys although i really belive it has nice potential!
I like the idea and I will probably test it out at some point.
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
I finished 11th on last tournament May 5, 2013 with a total of 70+ players using my Punishing Nic-Fit. Got lost to RUG mana flood, and OmniTel topped deck a burning wish :(
here's the list that i used.
Punishing Nic-Fit
Creatures : 13
4 Veteran Explorer
2 Huntmaster of the Fells
1 Broodmate Dragon
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Eternal Witness
1 Thragtusk
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Deathrite Shaman
1 Primeval Titan
Spells : 24
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Punishing Fire
3 Pernicious Deed
3 Sensei's Divining Top
3 Abrupt Decay
2 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Garruk, Primal Hunter
Lands : 23
4 Grove of the Burnwillows
4 Verdant Catacombs
3 Forest
2 Wooded Foothills
2 Bayou
2 Mountain
2 Swamp
1 Taiga
1 Badlands
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Volrath's Stronghold
Sideboard : 15
3 Thoughtseize
3 Carpet of Flowers
2 Chains of Mephistopheles
2 Slaughter Games
2 Pyroblast
2 Surgical Extraction
1 Red Elemental Blast
here my match ups
2-0 Esper Blade
2-0 Esper Blade
2-0 Merfolk
1-2 RUG
1-2 OmniTel
2-0 Sneak Show
2-0 Hive Mind but definitely a 2-1 game he just gave me a sweep so i can move up to the standing.
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
Looks VERY similar to my old PFire list (pre Abrupt Decay though). I like it a lot. Garruk Primal Hunter is insane.
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
So I'm working on building out Scapewish right now, and I could use some advice on the creature base.
In terms of the "core" set of creatures, it really seem like it's this:
4 Veteran Explorer
1-2 Wood Elves
1-2 Sakura Tribe Elder
1-2 Eternal Witness
After that, what are people favorite options? Mostly one-of's, and relying on Green Sun's Zenith to fetch what you need? Or more redundancy?
The options I'm looking at right now are:
Huntmaster of the Fells
Thrun, the Last Troll
Thragtusk
Primeval Titan
Avenger of Zendikar
Are there are any particular options I'm missing that you like? Or a particular mix that people feel is "optimal"?
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
drfontaine
BUG nicfit
3 Veteran Explorer
2 Eternal Witness
2 Vendilion Clique
1 Venser, Shaper Savant
1 Thragtusk
1 Prime Speaker Zegana
3 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
2 Dimir Charm
2 Curfew
2 Far // Away
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4 Pernicious Deed
2 Underground Sea
1 Tropical Island
1 Bayou
3 Forest
4 Island
1 Swamp
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Polluted Delta
1 Verdant Catacombs
SB: 2 Notion Thief
SB: 3 Thoughtseize
SB: 2 Negate
SB: 1 Force of Will
SB: 1 Scavenging Ooze
SB: 2 Abrupt Decay
SB: 1 Deathrite Shaman
SB: 2 Carpet of Flowers
SB: 1 Scavenging Ooze
What you guys think of this fresh dragon maze BUGfit list? SB just kinda random atm, since havnt playtested it enough to really know what it needs.
The removal suit is very bounce heavy although it synergizes well with witness/thrag/clique and cabal and i've played similair lists before maze and think the far//away addition is actually quite sweet and really makes sense in a BUGfit list trying to MD force, since it helps alot with bluecount.
This list is Beta however and could definetly use some help from you guys although i really belive it has nice potential!
Progenitor Mimic also seem like a perfect card for the bug version a gsz:able clone that will end up taking over the game. And becomes insane with with recurring nightmare as you can stack up the "it gains "At the beginning of your upkeep, if this creature isn't a token, put a token onto the battlefield that's a copy of this creature."".
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
Rizso
Progenitor Mimic also seem like a perfect card for the bug version a gsz:able clone that will end up taking over the game. And becomes insane with with recurring nightmare as you can stack up the "it gains "At the beginning of your upkeep, if this creature isn't a token, put a token onto the battlefield that's a copy of this creature."".
What if there are no creatures on the battlefield and you top deck this card?
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
Star|Scream
What if there are no creatures on the battlefield and you top deck this card?
Pretty much the same you do with Zegana.. Waiting. With nothing on the board you arent exaclty pressured to play it anyway.
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
Rizso
Pretty much the same you do with Zegana.. Waiting. With nothing on the board you arent exaclty pressured to play it anyway.
What if there's a planeswalker on the other side of the board or against a combo player? What I'm getting at is it does nothing on its' own in a deck that's supposed to have the best top decks in the game.
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
I am playing a GB Version of nic fit, been piloting it for like a year and i won the mdss in quebec city back on december, since then my deck have changed alot but with all the modifications i made, still love the aggressive version... so here are my 3 versions of G/B nic fit that i playtest for like a while... give me your advice and thanx for the help.
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PUNCH-ing Nic-fit
Creatures (19):
1x Starved Rusalka
2x Deathrite Shaman
4x Veteran Explorer
3x Strongleroot Geist
2x Scavenging ooze
2x Eternal Witness
1x Wickerbough elder
1x Thrun the last Troll
1x Derranged Hermit
2x Grave titan
Other spells (20):
1x Diabolic Intent
4x Cabal Therapy
4x Abrupt Decay
2x Maelstrom Pulse
3x Pernicious Deeds
4x Green sun's zenith
2x Garruk, primal hunter
Lands (21):
1x Phyrexian Tower
1x Dryad Arbor
4x Verdant catacombs
4x Misty Rainforest
3x Bayou
5x Forest
3x Swamp
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G/B Control Nic-fit
Creatures (13):
1x Deathrite Shaman
4x Veteran Explorer
2x Savenging ooze
2x Eternal Witness
1x Trhun the last troll
1x Kodama Of the north tree
1x Thragtusk
1x Primeval Titan
Other Spells (24):
3x Sensei's divining top
4x Cabal Therapy
3x Abrupt Decay
3x Hymn to tourach
2x Maeltrom pulse
3x Pernicious deeds
3x Green sun's zenith
3x Lilliana of the veil
Land (23):
1x Phyrexian Tower
1x Volrath Stronghold
2x Treetop Village
4x Verdant catacombs
4x Misty Rainforest
3x Bayou
5x Forest
3x Swamp
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Hybrid G/B Nic-Fit
Creatures (14):
2x Deathrite Shaman
4x Veteran Explorer
2x Scavenging ooze
2x Eternal Witness
1x Thrun the last Troll
1x Thragtusk
1x Grave titan
1x Primeval Titan
Other spells (25):
3x Sensei's divining top
4x Cabal Therapy
3x Abrupt Decay
3x Hymn to tourach
2x Maelstrom pulse
3x Pernicious deeds
4x Green sun's zenith
3x Lilliana of the veil
Lands (21):
1x Phyrexian Tower
1x Volrath Stronghold
4x Verdant catacombs
4x Misty Rainforest
3x Bayou
5x Forest
3x Swamp
So here are 3 deck that i played between since december... btw sorry i dont know how to put the irl of the cards... first post so!
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
Savardpower
I am playing a GB Version of nic fit, been piloting it for like a year and i won the mdss in quebec city back on december, since then my deck have changed alot but with all the modifications i made, still love the aggressive version... so here are my 3 versions of G/B nic fit that i playtest for like a while... give me your advice and thanx for the help.
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PUNCH-ing Nic-fit
Creatures (19):
1x Starved Rusalka
2x Deathrite Shaman
4x Veteran Explorer
3x Strongleroot Geist
2x Scavenging ooze
2x Eternal Witness
1x Wickerbough elder
1x Thrun the last Troll
1x Derranged Hermit
2x Grave titan
Other spells (20):
1x Diabolic Intent
4x Cabal Therapy
4x Abrupt Decay
2x Maelstrom Pulse
3x Pernicious Deeds
4x Green sun's zenith
2x Garruk, primal hunter
Lands (21):
1x Phyrexian Tower
1x Dryad Arbor
4x Verdant catacombs
4x Misty Rainforest
3x Bayou
5x Forest
3x Swamp
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G/B Control Nic-fit
Creatures (13):
1x Deathrite Shaman
4x Veteran Explorer
2x Savenging ooze
2x Eternal Witness
1x Trhun the last troll
1x Kodama Of the north tree
1x Thragtusk
1x Primeval Titan
Other Spells (24):
3x Sensei's divining top
4x Cabal Therapy
3x Abrupt Decay
3x Hymn to tourach
2x Maeltrom pulse
3x Pernicious deeds
3x Green sun's zenith
3x Lilliana of the veil
Land (23):
1x Phyrexian Tower
1x Volrath Stronghold
2x Treetop Village
4x Verdant catacombs
4x Misty Rainforest
3x Bayou
5x Forest
3x Swamp
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Hybrid G/B Nic-Fit
Creatures (14):
2x Deathrite Shaman
4x Veteran Explorer
2x Scavenging ooze
2x Eternal Witness
1x Thrun the last Troll
1x Thragtusk
1x Grave titan
1x Primeval Titan
Other spells (25):
3x Sensei's divining top
4x Cabal Therapy
3x Abrupt Decay
3x Hymn to tourach
2x Maelstrom pulse
3x Pernicious deeds
4x Green sun's zenith
3x Lilliana of the veil
Lands (21):
1x Phyrexian Tower
1x Volrath Stronghold
4x Verdant catacombs
4x Misty Rainforest
3x Bayou
5x Forest
3x Swamp
So here are 3 deck that i played between since december... btw sorry i dont know how to put the irl of the cards... first post so!
Its great to see the strangleroot geist in a Nic Fit list. I ran them for a while and really liked them. I'm not sure how effective they were due to my poor playing, but; I do know that the initial derision they met by opponents on game one, was not there on game two.
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
kabards
I finished 11th on last tournament May 5, 2013 with a total of 70+ players using my Punishing Nic-Fit. Got lost to RUG mana flood, and OmniTel topped deck a burning wish :(
here's the list that i used.
Punishing Nic-Fit
Creatures : 13
4 Veteran Explorer
2 Huntmaster of the Fells
1 Broodmate Dragon
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Eternal Witness
1 Thragtusk
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Deathrite Shaman
1 Primeval Titan
Spells : 24
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Punishing Fire
3 Pernicious Deed
3 Sensei's Divining Top
3 Abrupt Decay
2 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Garruk, Primal Hunter
Lands : 23
4 Grove of the Burnwillows
4 Verdant Catacombs
3 Forest
2 Wooded Foothills
2 Bayou
2 Mountain
2 Swamp
1 Taiga
1 Badlands
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Volrath's Stronghold
Sideboard : 15
3 Thoughtseize
3 Carpet of Flowers
2 Chains of Mephistopheles
2 Slaughter Games
2 Pyroblast
2 Surgical Extraction
1 Red Elemental Blast
here my match ups
2-0 Esper Blade
2-0 Esper Blade
2-0 Merfolk
1-2 RUG
1-2 OmniTel
2-0 Sneak Show
2-0 Hive Mind but definitely a 2-1 game he just gave me a sweep so i can move up to the standing.
Cerberus Open? Congrats on the finish! Sad I couldn't go, there was a sudden family thing :(
I have exactly the same main deck except +1 Eternal Witness -1 Abrupt Decay but I'm about to cut the Witness for another Garruk :D
SB I'd play TS if I had them, but I was planning on playing -3 TS -2 Chains +1 Pyroblast +2 REB +2 Innocent Blood LOL :tongue:
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
sherko7
Cerberus Open? Congrats on the finish! Sad I couldn't go, there was a sudden family thing :(
I have exactly the same main deck except +1 Eternal Witness -1 Abrupt Decay but I'm about to cut the Witness for another Garruk :D
SB I'd play TS if I had them, but I was planning on playing -3 TS -2 Chains +1 Pyroblast +2 REB +2 Innocent Blood LOL :tongue:
i'll be changing my SB list this coming june will be using choke and duress :cool:
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
Hey guys. Thinking about getting back into Nic Fit because it really is my favorite deck in the format. What is an updated Scapefit variant?
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
Megadeus
Hey guys. Thinking about getting back into Nic Fit because it really is my favorite deck in the format. What is an updated Scapefit variant?
My sig is still up-to-date. I haven't found anything to change (aside from periodically shifting the board for meta concerns). Everything has been fantastic.
Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
Is chameleon collossus really that good? It seems underwhelming