It's so you can still draw the card after you cast it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HdH_Cthulhu
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It's so you can still draw the card after you cast it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HdH_Cthulhu
The obvious thing is to pay RR for Wheel of Fate, Balancing Act, Living End, Hypergenesis or Ancestral Vision, maybe in a deck that also features Electrodominance.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruizar
Might also be decent in Burn as a 3 mana flashback Lightning Bolt and Lava Spike to deal 6 to an opponent. Probably just worse than their existing 3 mana options like Risk Factor, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruizar
I'd say, you either cast or copy a spell, you never do both for one spell instance. Copying a card before casting, as in the wording on Kefnet, is a different thing. Ral's text cares for instant/sorcery spells, not cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by HdH_Cthulhu
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Of course Kefnet is not that good in Legacy. But he's so much better than the others from the cycle (so far).
Finale of Promise is a crazy card for modern storm, it's basically spend 4 mana get 6 mana and +3 storm count - assuming you cast it at X=2 and target rituals with it, can also be used for card draw or filtering, not sure how you balance the number of copies of this vs. the number of copies of Past in Flames.
so i guess the quick scenario would be:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanni
seething song + bonus round + manamorphose -> draw 2 and get RRRR, cast this card and get a copy. resolve the copy targeting manamorphose and bonus round. draw 2 more and have 4 mana + another resolved bonus round. at this point the original resolves, but you will have had to target your spells prior, so you may not have enough in the graveyard, i guess at worst you have the seething song targeted and no other sorcery. however the seething song will net you +20 mana.
not sure if it's better than the current options. i like that you can just cast it mid-game. maybe i'll try it out.
My friend had a good point that the red card by itself can trigger Phoenix if you get like a bolt and a ponder back with it
Am I correct that Finale of promise can cast Restore Balance?
If so, we are very much on to something here.
Hmm...I wonder if finale of promise is playable by itself in grixis control or something. Its upside is comparable to snapcaster, possibly even better, since instead of a 2/1 you get to flash back another spell. Of course only being able to do it at sorcery speed and requiring both an instant and a sorcery are big drawbacks. But casting bolt and ponder with this seems way better than electrolyze, for example. Maybe modern.
Yes, this should work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finn
It's interesting to note that Finale of Promise can fork's its targets again if you spend X is 10. Not sure if that is practically going to be relevant very much but if you can ramp this much mana, then it might in some extreme corner cases?Quote:
Originally Posted by mistercakes
It can also cast Wheel of Fate or Ancestral Vision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finn
Since this works with X=0 you can even do that if you're casting Finale of Promise from a cascade trigger.
You can also Finale into a Finale.Quote:
Originally Posted by rufus
Turn 1 Mountain, Faithless Looting, discard Wheel of Fate + Finale of Promise
Turn 2 Mountain, Desperate Ritual, Desperate Ritual, Finale of Promise
Finale of Promise (a) for X = 2 targeting Finale of Promise (b) and Desperate Ritual (a) in the graveyard.
Finale of Promise (b) targeting Wheel of Fate and another Desperate Ritual (b) in the graveyard.
Draw 7 cards with at least RRRRRR in your pool storm 7.
Edit: Ok, so that second Desperate Ritual can't be cast off the second Finale of Promise, but you get the point. Xmas land or not, still looks like a powerful card!
X=0 with alternative costs so that second Finale can't target Desperate Ritual.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruizar
Green cantrip isn't awful!
http://mythicspoiler.com/war/cards/b...lourishing.jpg
Instant speed probably would have made it playable...
One thing worth pointing out is that Finale of Promise fulfills the 3 spells requirement of Arclight Phoenix if you target both instant and sorcery.
Edit: I'm surprised nobody mentied this so far:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D39JZvDXsAAtYIV.png
Painful Truths sees fringe play. This one is monocolored with a somewhat simple requirement to become really good. And it get extra silly with Jace, Vryn's Prodigy's flipped side for the integrated flashback or Snapcaster Mage (to a lesser extend).
Contentious plan is likely better than throne of geth for the nerds who were playing throne as their out to chalice since it replaces itself + blue. Instant would have been nice.
In Modern may let you cut As Foretold in the Restore Balance deck. Electrodominance, this card, Restore Balance, AV. Throw in Phoenix and Faithless Looting and you have some spicy shit going on. I like that you can Restore Balance and then recur Phoenix same turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finn
Dunno if its good enough for Legacy. I don't really think Restore Balance is all that great in the format even if you can reliably cast it.
People will certainly try to make 'dice factory' work with cards like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomasDowd
I'd probably prefer Thirst for Knowledge for being Instant, even in a no-artifact deck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
Even Compulsive Research is less conditional.