I'm still a fan of suppression field for fighting mana denial from DnT and lands.Quote:
Originally Posted by btm10
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I'm still a fan of suppression field for fighting mana denial from DnT and lands.Quote:
Originally Posted by btm10
And for being hilarious against miracles.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Dingo
I'll have to pick up more fields. It's been so long since I've played them I forgot they existed.
I think Field is great against Port (though City is obviously better), but Field is definitely better against D&T in general. I can imagine alist with 4 Field and 0 fetches, but that's probably too extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Dingo
I'm kind of against the idea of dropping all the fetches just because it makes splashing for black or red very challenging. Also, the first suppression field is awesome, but the value seems to drop off for fields 2-4. I think the right ratio of suppression fields to fetches is like 2-3/4-5, but then there are things to consider like having too few shuffles for Mirri's guile.Quote:
Originally Posted by btm10
I still ran 4 fetches when I played field.
But 4 seems a little low for a third-color splash, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeus
I normally run 5 with three colors, but it might be low. I rely pretty heavily on my Utopia Sprawls to fix mana. Plus I've been playing a single one of the one that draws a card and makes a land tap for any color
I always played 4 fetches with 2 Fields, I was just thinking out loud about whether a more prison-focused strategy might work.
With DnT and Miracles being so heavily represented maybe. Sterling Grove gets worse and Rip Helm is still playable but weakened. I rarely have had to play against Lands so I'm assuming it helps against them, but everyone says were already somewhat favored. And it's a Bone Flute against Eldrazi.
So I've been unable to play much at all for months (btw From Beyond is in fact terrible) but when I was active I was running 3 Suppression Fields with 5 or 4 fetchlands, GW because I'm cheap and afraid of 3-color decks. Might be a bit tight but I liked it.
If I ever do get to play again I'm gonna jam in some number of Thalia, Heretic Cathar and see what happens. Even if you're not in a creature deck slamming that turn 2 on the play seems brutal.
Why not just play Root MazeQuote:
Originally Posted by Watersaw
Asymmetry. Having to wait a turn to cash in a Sanctum sucks. Giving text to StP can be bad but there might be some merit to the body.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeus
Went 3-2 at FNM last night, beating D&T, Aggro Loam, and Merfolk, and losing to Aluren and RUG Delver. Except for games 2 and 3 against Aluren and game 2 against D&T all of my losses were to mana issues that my opponents had nothing to do with. I cut down to 16 lands as a somewhat aggressive experiment and it was (predictably) too few. I put a Worship in my sideboard as a tutor target against Eldrazi and it was great. I'll post the list later if anyone's imterested, and will probably go up to 17-19 lands.
I have found even 20 lands to be often tight (mulligans, mana screw, etc, not getting to 4 mana for Moat/Worship against Eldrazi before I'm dead) but probably the perfect number for me cuz 21 seems too many, how do you guys survive on 17-18? :smile: (19 seems reasonable too but 18 or less seems few...)
I've flooded on 19 before, and flooding poses all sorts of problems for this deck beyond just not having enough to do. I also like to try extremes when I'm changing how I build decks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fjaulnir
20's felt right to me, but I used to run 19 with OK results. Can't imagine running any less than that, though.
Side note: has anyone run Surgical in their board? I just swapped 2 Brain Maggot for 2 Surgical, as there's reliably both graveyard and combo decks in my meta. Haven't tried it though and am curious to hear if anyone else has had luck with it.
Yeah dude, let's see a list.Quote:
Originally Posted by btm10
Seal of Cleansing over Seal of Primordium is unusual. Do you think that's a typo, or is there a reason why Cleansing is better?Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Dingo
On the one hand the deck has more green sources, but I often find that due to Serra's Sanctum (sometimes also from a Sprawl on white or a basic plains/Karakas) I have extra white floating at end of turn that I have no more use for (as I only drew more green cards, which tie up 85-90% of your mana usage), so that *could* be a reason?