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Very possible, but I've noticed other lists consistently prefer Primordium over Cleansing. Plus on the narrow occasions where you can respond to a draw trigger with an Enlightened Tutor, the green cost is probably easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fjaulnir
I prefer seal as well - if I'm going white I might as well run Aura of Silence instead. Just pointing out having excess white occurs far more often than having excess green in a build with 3-4 sanctums
May just have been card availability though.
When running more than one it would make sense to run a split, if you're expecting a lot of random revokers or so
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Originally Posted by lordofthepit
It might just be that he's always played Cleansing and hasn't prioritized 'upgrading' to Primordium. I don't think I switched until early last year, and I picked up the deck around...Invasion?
Yay, a copy of enchantress in the t16 of the classic. List looks rock solid with very stable mana.
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...?DeckID=109778
That city of trators is spicy...
If I were a betting man I would assume that's a City of Solitude, not a City of Traitors
List looks almost like mine except I have an extra Sterling Grove instead of Eidolon of Blossoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Dingo
That would make it more traditional indeed :) Deep inside I wish (except for my wallet...) that it would be some new tech to power out quicker & earlier Helms or Trinispheres against fast combo decks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeus
A *very* random idea that's probably bad, but how would a random Smuggler's Copter look in Enchantress?
Turns your Argothians into 3 damage, but mostly loots away all the excess lands we draw, or has good synergy with Replenish as well. Blocks Delvers as well.
I don't think that's the right direction to go, but even if it was, Enchantresses have 0 power. They can't crew things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fjaulnir
Haha derp... somehow I had the 1 toughness in my head. Too bad, EnchantressCopter seemed like a fun way to fuck with your opponents' sanity all day long :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart
Hi i am an old school enchantress player going back to mtg. Impresions will be aprecitated. :smile:
4 Argothian Enchantress
4 Enchantress's Presence
1 Sigil of the Empty Throne
2 Helm of Obedience
3 Rest in Peace
4 Elephant Grass
4 Wild Growth
4 Utopia Sprawl
2 Solitary Confinement
3 Mirri's Guile
1 Banishing Light
2 Green Sun's Zenith
3 Sterling Grove
3 Serra's Sanctum
7 Forest
1 Savannah
1 Karakas
4 Windswept Heath
2 Plains
1 Dryad Arbor
2 Wooded Foothills
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Eidolon of Blossoms
SB: 1 Rest in Peace
SB: 3 Carpet of Flowers
SB: 1 City of Solitude
SB: 4 Leyline of Sanctity
SB: 1 Sphere of Safety
SB: 1 Circle of Protection: Red
SB: 2 Stony Silence
SB: 1 Oblivion Ring
SB: 1 Karmic Justice
The only thing that I don't like about your particular decklist is that there are only 2 GSZ. I like 3 or 4. With only 2 GSZ I think I would cut the dryad arbor because your odds of playing gsz T1 as a ramp spell fall off the fewer copies that you play.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenCid
I'd also drop the 2nd plains. I don't think that getting white mana is problematic between the fetches and the utopia sprawls, and white mana is just not as important in the first few turns.
I'm also a huge fan of the emrakul, because uncounterability is the tits against miracles. Otherwise they are likely to just counter all your win cons.
Hi, I'm qualified for a small Invitiational in my local store. Only 16 players are going to play, some of them are pro tour level regulars, so there's going to be a very strong field. There are going to be 3 rounds of Legacy, among other formats. My problem is, that the only deck I've ever played in Legacy is Enchantress. Do you think it is a decent deck in such a small tournament?
Learning another deck now seems a bit rushed for me, even though Enchantress might not be the perfect choice... Usually Enchantress is in a very good position in our local tournaments, there are many DnT and Miracles decks and not a lot of combo, but I don't know how this will translate to the invitational
Once i got finals on a tournament similar than yours with enchatress. It's a solid deck if you pilot it as well. Has an answer almost against everything and often dazes your opo with it´s lost. Has a fast win condition if needed...nice deck.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikostra
Enchantress with Replenish is pretty good against Miracles, and the black one with 2 Doomwake Giants is a rough beating to DnT as well if they can't lock you out turn 2 on the play or something, so GWb seems -imho- better fit to deal with Miracles and DnT than GW-Helm-Rip Enchantress which has more dead cards against these decks (but is stronger in a faster/combo oriented meta maybe).Quote:
Originally Posted by nikostra
Some decklists I'd have a look at to get some direction:
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...?DeckID=109267
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=14006&d=283069&f=LE (I would run 4 GSZ against Miracles though as your first 2 parts of the draw engine are likely to get countered. When being high on mana late game, try to zenith for x=7 against Counterbalance when/if you can, as that's the lowest CMC they can't counter off CB)
(I usually side out the 4th GSZ against nonblue decks that tax your noncreature spells but don't run counterspells like DnT, Eldrazi)
the Seal of Primordium maindeck seems very legit if you expect DnT + Miracles as it isn't dead against either, and is also good against many other nonblue fair decks. Doomwake deals with most fair decks as well, can be very good against f.ex. Delver with or without Young Pyromancer, with Carpet of Flowers being necessary against Delver decks though to power out a CMC 5 card.
It's been a bit since I have posted, but the GW Helm list with Suppression Field is favored vs. both D&T and Miracles. ...and is very decent against most forms of combo as well with Sphere of Resistance tech.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikostra
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Originally Posted by Freggle
You run sphere over thalia just because elfs?
Additionally you can also stack them (because Legendary), but the clock on Thalia seems nice too.
But Thalia can't get Krosan Gripped or Hurkylls Recalled (which many Storm players seem to be adopting again); bit can be Pyroclasmed etc which some combo decks will try against us.
As Fjaulnir stated the effects stack. In addition:Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeus
- the requirement for casting is lower (no specific colored mana)
- also affects obscure but rising in popularity creature combo decks Food Chain, and Alluren
- there is a diversification of "threats"
- We don't scoop just to a pyroclasm, or just a hurkyls (if teeg is out, etc.)
- sphere is better than Ethersworn, or other 1 spell a turn effects because it hurts us less, and it protects itself better. a 3 mana Decay, or a 4 mana K. Grip is a lot for some combo decks.
Usually (2) Spheres and another combo killer i.e. Solitary, Leyline, Teeg, (sometimes RIP) and combo decks will scoop because the hate density exceeds there ability to fight it given the diversification.