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Unless your local meta has lots of stuff like Eldrazi, Elves, Goblins etc I wouldn't bother with Moat. The main decks are Delver (Delver, DRS), Pile (DRS, Strix, Jace), Miracles (Jace, Entreat) etc, it's too situational and expensive.
It's cheap online and almost nobody plays it there either, it's not a cost reason that it's not played much.
100% of the mentioned treaths die to Kozilek’s Return and/or REB
I used to play Moat in pre-ban. Loved the card, it never “won” me games but it would give me more than enough time to stabilize.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secretly.A.Bee
These days since I’m playing only 1 ETA, I don’t run the Moat anymore.
Ok, thanks for the information. I appreciate you sharing your experience with it.
Is Teferi, Hero of Dominaria a better Jace?
It costs one more mana, but it’s absolutes are much more potent overall.
Not being able to put a Terminus from your hand on top of your deck seems like a pretty big strike against Teferi compared to Jace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Hammer
It’s a permanent which costs 5 and dies to REB.
The best mechanic for this deck is:
1) survive early game
2) land a threath (Clique, Mentor, Gideon, Jace)
3) Terminus the table and win from there.
Point 2 and 3 can be inverted.
Card advantage is just a mean to get a Gideon on an empty board.
That’s where your train leaves
what do miracle players bring pyroblast in against just curious?
Blue decks?Quote:
Originally Posted by dnt4lyfe
I'm playing three volcs currently, so that I can feel comfortable bringing in blasts vs wasteland decks like Delver and BUG Leo.
Jace and Leovold
So principally mirror match and Czech Pile matchup.
Hay guyz, I am back.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutthroatCasual
I recently sleeved up a 19 land, 4 BS, 4 Ponder, 4 Portent, 2 Predict list. Sometimes the mana has felt sketchy, but it's really been surprisingly solid. I could convince myself to cut a Portent for the 20th land.
My first run last week, I tried out 2 Pyroclasms in the SB, but I'm thinking about probably cutting them since I only play 2 Volcanics in this build and fetching Volcanic early against Wasteland decks feels terrible. I'm really not so sure that I even want or need REB against Delver right now. The Miracles maindeck is so strong vs Grixis Delver that I'd rather just cut the 4 FoW for a couple Flusterstorms, another Verdict, and maybe a Path (or Moat??) then call it a day.
I'm not currently running any CB in the 75, but I haven't hit any Storm players at the locals yet either, so I'm not sure if this will be a problem or not.
Anyways, just saying hi, I've been out of mtg for a while. Maybe I'll check into the discord, it's cool to see some familiar people still posting here, haha. :D
Welcome, glad to see you're back! The discord is where we hold our primary discussions these days. Feel free to join us there and chat away!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzra
An article on some new Miracles tech from Italy.
Well written with good logical conclusions!
https://thelibraryatpendrellvale.com...-marco-aquila/
Hope you enjoy it
Sib
This idea to play 3 Thoughtseize in the SB is weird.
First, I am quite confident with the traditionnal answers (Flusterstorm, Surgical extraction...) to fight combo.
Second, just do the maths : 7 blue fetches + 1 single Underground Sea + 3 TS = only 20% chance to be able to cast the TS on T1.
The only real merit I could see is that it gives Engineered explosives the ability to remove 4 mana permanents (Jace, Chandra, Karn, etc)
Black stopped to have sense with Council’s Judgment
In my opinion if they will ban Deathrite Shaman we’re going major back again. Reanimator will surge and we will have a very easy matchup with S Extraction and Containment Priest.Rebs are going to surge for Miracle and Czech Pile
Our win cons must be white
Will there be any Czech Pile without Deathrite? Hard to imagine that deck functioning without the mana fixing. More like BUG maybe and B/Gx?Quote:
Originally Posted by Poron
Good call, but Leovold will keep on being played in a more SFMish built
I don't think Deathrite needs to be banned, but anyways... We used to discuss Black splash a whole, whole lot back in the day. I was never much impressed with it then and I don't see myself getting too excited about it now. Are combo MUs really such a problem now?
Hi
Upcomming miracles player here :) I have some questions that I hope some of you will answer.
Firstly can someone explain the pro and cons on running Entreat the Angels vs. Mentor vs. Gideon, Ally of Zendikar?
Also how hard is it to run Blood Moon instead of Back to Basics? I was wondering if I put in one more basic plains (from 2 to 3) running bloodmon and still being able to cast Entreat and/or gideon wouldnt be a big issue?
Best regards
For reference I am wanna do something like this:
Lands (20):
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Flooded Strand
4 Island
3 Plains
3 Tundra
2 Volcanic Island
Creatures(3):
3 Snapcaster Mage
Spells(29):
4 Brainstorm
3 Ponder
3 Portent
2 Predict
4 Force of Will
4 Swords to Plowshares
2 Council's Judgment
2 Counterspell
1 Entreat the Angels
3 Terminus
1 Supreme Verdict
Other(8):
3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
2 Counterbalance
2 Search for Azcanta
Sideboard(15):
2 Blood Moon
2 Containment Priest
2 Flusterstorm
1 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Pyroblast
1 Red Elemental Blast
2 Rest in Peace
2 Wear // Tear (would you just play disenchant here?)
1 Vendilion Clique
Please read the FAQ on the first page.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maelstrom
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing
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