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Do you seriously think that in the 7 year history of this deck you're the first one to suggest and test Goblin War Strike? It has been discussed to death, Goblin War Strike is way too situational. There are plenty of other sideboard cards that are better at improving the matchups that you target with Goblin War Strike and improve other matchups as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Brian Pepper
If one were to add a 14th land to the board with the intention to play similar to how dredge plays against delver decks, what would it be?
Mario
Yesterday a friend of mine was playtesting the current list against miracles. I walk in on the game:
hand: ETW, IT, DR, 2x LP, GP, CM
board: Volc, Usea, misty, gemstone (2counters)
opponent has a hand of force, blue card(pierce?), terminus, 2 unknowns
board is counterbalance, top, 3ish available lands (1 fetch)
Questions: Is this completely hopeless if the opponent plays correctly? How would you play this?
Is this pre or post SB?Quote:
Originally Posted by apocolyps6
start with probe, if he shows u 1 cmc w/o tapping top you loseQuote:
Originally Posted by apocolyps6
if he taps top to set 1, respond with ritual and empty some warrens.
if allowed to resolve, you get +1 cards and you know other 2 cards and can proceed from there. I think theres too much missing info from there to proceed, but if its all blanks I would raw dawg that empty out there.
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Originally Posted by apocolyps6
You guys miss the bigger picture and I'm once more the guy in this thread spoiling the fun. In short: It IS hopeless unless the Miracles pilot is totally incompetent. The question isn't "Can I get EtW resolved?" which I would clearly answer with "yes"; it is "can EtW win me the game?" and this questions answer is "No". The reason for the later questions answer is the fact that your opponent has 2 draws, a SDT and a fetch among plenty of manasources to either find a Brainstorm or a sweeper which is pretty much guaranteed. Going for Ad Nauseam instead won't be possible due to mana shortage as your opponent can just block your 1cc spells even if you try to respond to his SDT-draw with a DR as he can still spin the Top and fetch with the draw-trigger on the stack, finding a 1cc Spell for the Counterbalance.Quote:
Originally Posted by mario91234
Edit 1: even if you somehow slip spells through the Counterbalance, there is still FoW ... nevermind.
If your opponent isn't a troll he wins.
If he is, you win :)
Let's hope he is one.
- Team RUG-STAR Berlin -
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Originally Posted by Lemnear
Congrats to AJ Kerrigan, who stormed to 13th place at today's SCG. (OP list with -1 Duress +1 Thoughtseize MD// -1 Pyroblast +1 Telemin Performance SB)
AJ if you are reading- Post a tournament report with your sideboarding strategies! :)
Please thanks and congrats!
I had a rough weekend (Finishing at 6-3), not an exaggeration, I lost a match to Moment's Peace. I want that f'ing card banned.
I plan on jamming the same 75 next weekend, I had some bad luck. Something I tried against Esper Deathblade and UW control was boarding out all three Chrome Moxen in favor for higher impact cards, it wasn't bad.
Out of curiosity, how often were you using Past in Flames this tourney? It seems like boarding out Moxen and having those mainboard Cabal Rituals makes it pretty great in control matchups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
I used it a handful of times. I had an insane line in my second round.Quote:
Originally Posted by wonderPreaux
G1, lose to Detention Sphere on my tokens.
G2, I had a turn one kill going for it blind.
G3, My opponent mulled and started out with leyline of Sanctity (I didn't side in COV but I did side in Pyroblast). He tapped out turn two and I resolved Ad Nauseam (Discarding a wish to my LED), it revealed a bunch of mana and all three Infernal Tutors. I didn't have initial mana sources, so I use Infernal Tutor to find Lotus Petal, Infernal then to find LED to give me the mana next turn to flash back PiF if need be and the third Infernal Tutor to find Pyroblast. Then play Burning Wish for Empty the Warrens for about 40ish storm, it was pretty damn awesome.
40 storm? What the hell is your record?
With a good Nauseam and then a pif you can easily get over 50 storm. Usualy not needed but there is it.
Question why ppl play telemin over bribery? I just think bribery is much better than telemin....
Telemin can cause creatureless decks to deck themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Togores
Telemin is instant-win against decks like ANT, High Tide or Lands while still being able to grab Grizzel from S&T decks. Sadly the plan can backfire if High Tide runs Snapcasters, ANT boards Bobs or you only hit a Children of Korlis against TinFins. Bribery reduces the gambling and you can use it reliable against MUD or 12 post unlike Telemin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Togores
@Storm-Record: 53 storm for me
Ok as i thought telemin is shitt.
You hit fearies o scm or even vendilion vs tide.
Ya ant. He can side a xantid or confi.
And vs sneak u can hit emrakul and loose to sneak attack next turn.
Bribery >>>>>telemin
Hey guys, I was looking at this list and I think it might have a bit more potential than the initial response in the thread wouldve implied. While it seems a touch clunky with maindeck tendrils, i think the idea of a maindeck Past in Flames could be worthwhile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
The sideboard Infernal Tutor is something we already adapted, so its not like this guy was necessarily that far off the mark with his build, here are some other considerations:
> It makes the sided Tutor better: One complaint about the current Cabal Ritual, sided Tutor build is that if you t2 wish -> t3 ad nauseam, you might take enough damage along the way to make it hard to go off. PiF mained means you now have an alternative t3 option. Especially relevant is that the one wish for tutor secures the whole line as your PiF flashes back the Tutor for the game-ending Wish.
> We have 25% more rituals now than when this list first came up in the thread. More rituals, especially one that are noted for making PiF lines better, make PiF... well, better. Makes sense.
> PiF isnt great to open with, but its probably less of a brick than mained Tendrils. Especially with Wish -> Tutor, you can sculpt pretty solid "ANT-style" chains and loops and the PiF you open with is just a cool storm booster.
> I dont think this makes you much worse against GY hate. G1 you probably only see DRS for GY hate, and you can overcome that just by having enough Rituals to Tutor chain so you cant be put off all your Tutors. Against more aggressive decks or decks where graveyard hate is prevalent postboard, you can simply side this out.
> Lately, TES seems to be moving towards resiliency against UWx control decks, given that PiF is great against control because it has to be countered twice and gives you alternative to faster decks that put you off Ad Nauseam, this could move the numbers up in blue matchups
The only difficulties are finding room for PiF, the prevailing cut would likely be Chrome Mox imo, and the fact that no matter what you cut you are making somewhat worse Ad Nauseams overall. Still, diversity in lines, against the decks we're metagaming to beat, seems like it improves the deck overall. Thoughts?
I played a game against Deathblade where he was at like 34 life from Batterskull. I was still at a healthy enough life total thanks to a few goblin tokens I had made on turn one, but he played a Stoneforge for BSkull and Brainstorm(DRS mana) into Force for my Therapy. I was able to cast AdNaus, go down to 3 life(his Shaman was tapped to play Lilly) Tendrils back up to like 25 life, cast PiF, re AdNaus, and drew my whole deck. I'm not even sure what the storm count was as I stopped tracking around 26, but it was a hell of a fun turn. (This story is from memory and might not be 100% accurate, but drawing your whole deck and casting both Tendrils and AdNaus twice in the same turn is crazy.)