Kaladesh -or- When Kiran met Pia

The art on most of those is amazing IMO. Those lotus petals are beautiful.

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Originally Posted by Barook

All masterpieces in Kaladesh

Can't really say I'm a fan of the art in many cases. E.g. since when was CoW a drainpipe? :eyebrow:

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That's pretty clearly a crucible tipping over to unload it's contents... What do you think a crucible actually is?

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Originally Posted by supremePINEAPPLE

That's pretty clearly a crucible tipping over to unload it's contents... What do you think a crucible actually is?

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Ha, The original art is more like an hourglass.

There better be a Winter Orb masterpiece with polar bears on it in Aether Revolt.

MAJOR fail going with the FtV foiling. Literally all of my interest in them is gone.

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Originally Posted by sadface

There better be a Winter Orb masterpiece with polar bears on it in Aether Revolt.

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In before:

- SDT
- Chalice
- Lodestone Golemn
- Voltaic Key
- Memory Jar
- Defense Grid
- Thorn Of Amethyst
- Sphere of Resistance
- Trinishphere

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Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew

MAJOR fail going with the FtV foiling. Literally all of my interest in them is gone.

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Why... would they do this?

I wonder if it's because they added Masterpiece Theater to the set after production and they needed to use a different press for the print run?

Has Wizards ever said anything about ye old plastic bottle cap foiling process?

It's not FTV foiling:

https://twitter.com/TrickMTG/status/775463438986326016

I thought I read that it would be the same as or similar to the Expeditions, but I can't find that comment now. If it is the same, does anyone know how well those have held up over time?

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Originally Posted by MaximumC

Why... would they do this?

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Incompetence

People hate the FTV foiling process since forever. Failing to address this in a timely manner is a typical Wizards move.

IIRC, Aaron Forsythe recently asked on Twitter which foiling process people do prefer.

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Originally Posted by Richard Cheese

It's not FTV foiling:

https://twitter.com/TrickMTG/status/775463438986326016

I thought I read that it would be the same as or similar to the Expeditions, but I can't find that comment now. If it is the same, does anyone know how well those have held up over time?

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Could very well be damage control. What does "similiar" mean if one can't really tell the difference?

I guess we can now play 8 "Aether Vials"? #NameFail

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Originally Posted by Lemnear

I guess we can now play 8 "Aether Vials"? #NameFail

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All AEther cards are going with the new "Aether" spelling going forward. It's intentional. Expect a Gatherer update.

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Originally Posted by Barook

Incompetence

People hate the FTV foiling process since forever. Failing to address this in a timely manner is a typical Wizards move.

IIRC, Aaron Forsythe recently asked on Twitter which foiling process people do prefer.

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Could very well be damage control. What does "similiar" mean if one can't really tell the difference?

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Similar = identical, except afterwards we called them Masterpieces instead of FTV. Trust me, veeeery different.

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RIP MTGO economy. This is huge and completely going to nuke the economy.

Sure, BFZ was one hell of a shitty set, but unredeemable expeditions played a huge part why the EV was so crappy. MTGO prices are tied to paper prices - and paper prices can't exceed a certain threshold because otherwise, cracking packs/boxes open would be more profitable and correct the prices. If they tie a good chunk of the set's value to unredeemable cards, the rest of the sets value is going to suffer and thus, MTGO's set value. The booster prices will follow suit accordingly and tank.

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Don't worry, they'll just replace boosters in the prize payouts with more Itchy and Scratchy money.

Side note: These are legal if you pull one in Limited, so I'm hoping somebody at the Pro Tour cracks a Mana Crypt or Sol Ring and whomps on their draft pod. Just for the lulz.

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Could very well be damage control. What does "similiar" mean if one can't really tell the difference?

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I might just be making that up. Probably just getting my wires crossed between all the talks of similarity between these and the Expeditions alongside all the foil discussion. I don't even know if the Expeditions used a unique process at all.

All these reprints really piss me off. Its not that cards reprinted typically decline in value. Its that cards like Lotus petal now come in like 3-4 different borders and it becomes difficult to recognize the card. At some point wizards just has to allow any kind of altars as long as there is a name on the card.

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All these reprints really piss me off. Its not that cards reprinted typically decline in value. Its that cards like Lotus petal now come in like 3-4 different borders and it becomes difficult to recognize the card. At some point wizards just has to allow any kind of altars as long as there is a name on the card.

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Quiet, you. Reprints of expensive cards is amazing, it's what the game needs, and the LAST thing we wanna do is give credence to people who say Magic players will complain about anything. Let's prove them wrong just this once, ok?

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All these reprints really piss me off. Its not that cards reprinted typically decline in value. Its that cards like Lotus petal now come in like 3-4 different borders and it becomes difficult to recognize the card. At some point wizards just has to allow any kind of altars as long as there is a name on the card.

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Is it really hard to look across the table to identify a lotus petal or ask your opponent if you can see the card?

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Originally Posted by apple713

All these reprints really piss me off. Its not that cards reprinted typically decline in value. Its that cards like Lotus petal now come in like 3-4 different borders and it becomes difficult to recognize the card. At some point wizards just has to allow any kind of altars as long as there is a name on the card.

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Your first criticism is quite valid, these things don't make cards easier to get so they really don't help with that regard. Neat cards, some look really cool, but its not like these are going to help make magic any more affordable for people who need these cards.

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Originally Posted by phonics

Your first criticism is quite valid, these things don't make cards easier to get so they really don't help with that regard. Neat cards, some look really cool, but its not like these are going to help make magic any more affordable for people who need these cards.

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Wat

Look, these cards themselves will be expensive. See: Expeditions. However, they are increasing the supply of some hard-to-get older cards, and that cannot help but add a suppressive force to the card prices. There's no universe where supply and demand operate where printing more of a card (even in limited quantities) doesn't help prices somewhat.

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Originally Posted by Cire

Ha, The original art is more like an hourglass.

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The original art was chosen by fans, as part of the second round of "You Make The Card;" art direction included.