Kaladesh -or- When Kiran met Pia

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Originally Posted by phonics

Your first criticism is quite valid, these things don't make cards easier to get so they really don't help with that regard. Neat cards, some look really cool, but its not like these are going to help make magic any more affordable for people who need these cards.

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They very much make regular mythics (lol) and rares easier to get, because certain types of person need them. Whether this is ultimately good for the game in the long term, we're about to find out.

I hate how much I like the look of some of those Invention things. Luckily I don't plan on playing any of them, so yay!

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Originally Posted by Richard Cheese

It's not FTV foiling:

https://twitter.com/TrickMTG/status/775463438986326016

I thought I read that it would be the same as or similar to the Expeditions, but I can't find that comment now. If it is the same, does anyone know how well those have held up over time?

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https://twitter.com/TrickMTG/status/775443311557431297

It is the FTV foiling process. Notice the vertical shine lines that FTV foils have and no other foils have. These new expditions are probably shinier but shine the exact same way the FTV foils shine.

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Originally Posted by MaximumC

Wat

Look, these cards themselves will be expensive. See: Expeditions. However, they are increasing the supply of some hard-to-get older cards, and that cannot help but add a suppressive force to the card prices. There's no universe where supply and demand operate where printing more of a card (even in limited quantities) doesn't help prices somewhat.

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For example, I don't know if Mana Crypt was ever reprinted before this year, and that was basically a book promo that was incredibly difficult to get in good condition. Yes, there are one or two dud in the Masterpiece artworks, but damn if most of them don't just knock it right out of the park.

Yeah, because the "ultra rare" expeditions really suppressed the prices of the normal cards. I tough people would start to see a low effort cash grab, but no. How can people be hyped about this,just after we got conspiracy, really baffles me.

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Originally Posted by Darkenslight

For example, I don't know if Mana Crypt was ever reprinted before this year, and that was basically a book promo that was incredibly difficult to get in good condition. Yes, there are one or two dud in the Masterpiece artworks, but damn if most of them don't just knock it right out of the park.

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Its the 4th iteration total. Kaladesh, Judge Promo, Eternal Masters and the original Book Promo

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Originally Posted by Scott

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Turns off Sneak Attack, Shallow Grave and Through the Breach pretty well.

And slows down aluren.. Or not

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Originally Posted by T-101

Turns off Sneak Attack, Shallow Grave and Through the Breach pretty well.

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Thank wizards, now unban splinter twin... :rolleyes:

Ill hold off on deciding whether or not i will go for incentions until ive seen the foiling irl. Ftv foil is a dealbreaker for me. Just give me mercadian masques foiling and im happy to pull the trigger. Im not dropping several thousand euro to acquire ftv.cards also, they better finish the dang swords of x y cycle because the mismatches are already terrible.

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Originally Posted by H

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Whatever happened to the news of that "Magic Digital Next" thing? Just silence?

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Pretty much, The odd mention about it being 'in development' in corporate reports and that's about it.

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Originally Posted by T-101

Turns off Sneak Attack, Shallow Grave and Through the Breach pretty well.

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This shuts down Elfball, Burn, UR Delver Aggro....

This card is a disaster.

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Originally Posted by maraxusofkelds

https://twitter.com/TrickMTG/status/775443311557431297

It is the FTV foiling process. Notice the vertical shine lines that FTV foils have and no other foils have. These new expditions are probably shinier but shine the exact same way the FTV foils shine.

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It's actually a slightly different foiling process. From reddit:

trickjarrett 45 points 11 hours ago
As I posted on Twitter, while they do look similar to FTV, they are done using a slightly different process.
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Originally Posted by JeroenC

It's actually a slightly different foiling process.

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Still a turd, just smells a little different. :tongue:

The problem is that you cant master-series if everything is ugly ftv foiledw, but u also wont be able to get consistent foiling if they change it -> master series dead on arrival

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Originally Posted by swoop

And slows down aluren.. Or not

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Best comment in the thread, hands down. Bravo.

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Originally Posted by Spam

Yeah, because the "ultra rare" expeditions really suppressed the prices of the normal cards. I tough people would start to see a low effort cash grab, but no. How can people be hyped about this,just after we got conspiracy, really baffles me.

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How can we get hyped when it's clear Wizards understands reprints are needed and is demonstrating it will reprint those cards? Oh, I duuno.

I mean, cmon. Are we really gonna grumble about how theyre not printing ENOUGH? Shouldn't we congratulate Wizards for doing what everyone wants them to do?

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Originally Posted by MaximumC

How can we get hyped when it's clear Wizards understands reprints are needed and is demonstrating it will reprint those cards? Oh, I duuno.

I mean, cmon. Are we really gonna grumble about how theyre not printing ENOUGH? Shouldn't we congratulate Wizards for doing what everyone wants them to do?

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Printing them in form of expedition is questionable move. I mean, it's defintely better than not reprinting them at all in any form, but to say these expedition reprints will change any prices of the regular versions of these particular cards is obviously wrong. Expeditions cater to specific market, the ones that have the money to buy luxury items as these obviously are at this rarity. If anything it will create a possibility that new rares/mythics will be cheaper simply due to the sheer volume of new boxes opened (people looking for the ghost, super ultra rare expeditions), thus potnetially lowering the price of potentially playable eternal cards (or even standard for that matter).

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Protection - Check
Pitches to Fow - Check
Draw - Check
Still not as good as JMTS - Check