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I always side out the full set of Thalias and 1/2 Vryn Wingmare depending on how many cards I am siding in, and never side out the Batterskull of course. In particular with my current list I side for a mirror match as follows:
-4 x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
-1 x Vryn Wingmare
-1 x Sword of Fire and Ice
+2 x Council's Judgment
+2 x Pithing Needle
+1 x Ratchet Bomb
+1 x Sword of War and Peace
Which version do u like more and why? ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by frenadol
Hey D&T players!
I have just arrived home from the MKM Series Legacy Main Event and have to say one more time D&T is a blast. I ended 28th from 270 players aproximately with a bittersweet feeling because I was touching with my hands the top 8 with 6-0 but ended 6-3 sadly, so I obtained credits to profit the tournament entry. My list was the same I posted some pages before.
I played against:
Round 1: Junk (2-0)
Round 2: BUG Delver (2-1)
Round 3: Affinity (2-1)
Round 4: RUG Delver (2-1)
Round 5: Merfolks (2-1)
Round 6: BUG Delver (2-0)
Round 7: Sneak & Show with 3 Omniscience main (0-2)
Round 8: ANT (0-2)
Round 9: Esper Stoneblade (0-2)
I am tired and do not remember a lot of details of each round sadly, so I cannot write a decent report :frown:
At least give us your list and the difficulties you encoutered :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Koke_MTG
Of course. Today I have fresh batteries to talk about some details from the tournament. First of all this is the list I played:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylert
4 x Mother of Runes
4 x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4 x Stoneforge Mystic
4 x Phyrexian Revoker
2 x Serra Avenger
4 x Flickerwisp
3 x Vryn Wingmare
3 x Mirran Crusader
4 x Aether Vial
4 x Swords to Plowshares
1 x Batterskull
1 x Sword of Fire and Ice
1 x Umezawa's Jitte
4 x Wasteland
4 x Rishadan Port
7 x Plains
3 x Flagstones of Trokair
3 x Karakas
2 x Cavern of Souls
SIDEBOARD:
2 x Council's Judgment
2 x Cataclysm
2 x Pithing Needle
2 x Containment Priest
2 x Ethersworn Canonist
1 x Ratchet Bomb
1 x Sword of War and Peace
3 x Rest in Peace
Sadly I had little time to test for the event but my experience with the deck and some automatic plays I usually make in games allowed me to do a decent tournament. I have automated a lot of moves that are typical against Delver decks so I felt comfortable against them. Even so, I could write and print a document with the sideboard plans against tier decks because I do not want to stress out thinking in this aspect in the middle of each round so I want to think those aspects at home.
First round was a Rogue Junk deck that ran Gerrard's Verdict, Geth's Verdict, Smallpox, Liliana of the Veil, Deathrite Shaman and Dark Confidant. I won this round easy because he conceded too soon both games and I had all the meat onto the field when he started with discard spells.
Second round against BUG Delver was really close. I lost first game in which I was well positioned with Mother of Runes plus flyers but opponent had double Abrupt Decay for them and killed me with a Delver of Secrets and a couple of Deathrite Shaman. In second games I think the matchup changes a lot because we should base our play in Stoneforge Mystic and Mirran Cursader insted of the mana denial plan. For this reason I usually side out all Thalia, Guardian of Thraben and Vryn Wingmare. They eat all the hate and are irrelevant for the oponent because the game goes to a long game when they side out counters, siding in Golgari Charm or Dread of Night for example. I consider the matchup in second game as a game vs a Shardless BUG that runs Delver of Secrets instead of Ancestral Vision. So second and third games I won with Mirran Cusader and Sword of Fire and Ice.
Against Affinity in the third round he vomited his hand and I lose game one, and then I could see the other face of Affinity. A deck that can lose by itself too. This was what happened and in game three I won with a 2x1 Ratchet Bomb for a Chalice of the Void to 1 and a Memnite. After this I display a Pithing Needle to Cranial Plating and a Phyrexian Revoker to Springleaf Drum and he could not play so conceded. He got stuck both games fortunately.
Rounds four and five were difficult although they were really good matchups (RUG Delver and Merfolks):
Against RUG Delver I won first game via mana denial, lost second game by too bad draws (long game with both players playing at topdeck and I drew three lands and an Aether Vial) and won game three because I broke two Volcanic Island, he did not find the third and had in hand Forked Bolt, Lightning Bolt and Ancient Grudge for Batterskull so I fortunately won.
Against Merfolks I lose game one against a couple of lords and a couple of Phantasmal Image, won game two with Sword of Fire and Ice racing True-Name Nemesis, and game three controlling his Jitte + True-Name Nemesis with Pithing Needle and Phyrexian Revoker, and attacking with a Vryn Wingmare with Sword of Fire and Ice equipped and drawing Flickerwisp as a crazy guy to blink and chumpblock merfolks when I was at 2/3 lifes. I needed both Council's Judgment here to exile a True-Name Nemesis first and then a Pithing Needle naming Sword of Fire and Ice.
In sixth round I played the best game in the tournament. I enjoyed it a lot. Was against BUG Delver. I kept a rare hand but I knew what he was playing. I was on the play. I started with Wasteland and passed. He played fetch to Underground Sea + Delver of Secrets and passed. Turn two Cavern of Souls on human to play Thalia, Guardian of Thraben. His turn two was a 1/2 Tarmogoyf and Delver of Secrets did not flipped. Next three turns I played Vryn Wingmare LOL!! So the game ended with 4 "Thalias" in play and racing the flipped Delver of Secrets. He had 4 lands in play and still without playing and with a 1/2 Tarmogoyf. Second game I won with a Mirran Crusader.
Seventh round against Sneak & Show. I had the game one 99% in my favour with a powerful hand. I had in play a Mirran Crusader, and a couple of Phyrexian Revoker (Sneak Attack and Sensei's Divining Top) with three lands, Karakas between them. In theory, the only way he had was Show and Tell to Griselbrand and draw in response to Karakas activation to do anything, but I had a third Phyrexian Revoker in hand to name Griselbrand flipping it with Show and Tell. I was thinking in game two when he flipped Omniscience with Show and Tell and then cast Emrakul, the Aeons Torn to win. In game two he searched Release the Ants with a Cunning Wish and started killing my creatures. This play made me lose the concentration and made a missplay not equipping Sword of Fire and Ice to Flickerwisp when he had returned Release the Ants to his hand. To close the game he played a Blood Moon when I had six lands in play and no basic Plains (Karakas, Flagstones, Wasteland and triple Rishadan Port I think). I was getting tired. This matchup is not easy if opponent is running Omniscience.
In the eight round I played against ANT. He played Gitaxian Probe + Cabal Therapy turn one on Thalia for win game one over Phyrexian Revoker. Then in game two I was forced to play a Plains because I had to cast hatebears and he played the only Massacre in his deck to kill Ethersworn Canonist + Mother of Runes + Phyrexian Revoker. Cannot do anything here.
Last round I played against Esper Stoneblade. I thought it was a win and in match but there were people out of the top 8 with 7-1-1 so I was out sadly. I lost relatively easy. It is a bomb after bomb deck. Card by card we are inferior. We only can win with synergies between cards and we have not manipulation. Stoneblade needs less and has manipulation to find more bombs. If it is not a TNN + Jitte, it is a Jace or a Council's Judgment or Lingering Souls... Hard matchup.
When I was winning I could see a lot of combo decks into high tables. I am happy enough with the final result although I did not play the top 8 finally and I will keep playing D&T of course.
Sorry for my poor english one more time! :laugh:
Marc: You got a nice shout out in this Deck Tech from Brad Nelson at about 6:24: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YSvtiFQrOE
Yea I know I was watching :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_of_Rivendell
I skyped with Brad Nelson before the event, talking to him about how to play D&T and how to build the deck.
He had a pretty solid list already, but I made some changes to it and then he played that 75 as did Tom Ross and Todd Anderson. And they all did very well which doesn't surprise me, seeing as how the deck was incredibly well positioned and they are good players. I played a daily with Brad on Skype and he honestly played super well. The only thing was that he didn't know how to sideboard correctly so I gave him a sideboard guide for all the match ups he was expecting. During the event he was surprised by the fact that painter and merfolk showed up, so he wrote me between rounds to ask how to sideboard in those match ups :laugh:
I am sad that he didn't win it all though, as he said he would buy D&T on MODO and let me borrow it if he did :laugh:
Ken Crocker was pretty annoying during that deck tech.
Yeah, almost all of his questions displayed a complete lack of knowledge of the deck. 'So why did you make the controversial choice of 3 Karakas and SoFi?'
Congrats on being such an authority on D&T Bahra. However, contacting an outside source for side boarding inbetween matches at an event like this seems like cheating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bahra
I was just happy to see you getting the kudos you're due.
What is the current consensus on Imperial Taxes sideboard plinker dude? Goblin Sharpshooter, Fireslinger, something else?
You can talk about the meta, matchups, sideboarding, or anything else between rounds, which is what he said. You can not ask for help during a match or between games.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottW
Sharpshooter is great, especially against Elves.Quote:
Originally Posted by c2232
Last month I had the nut draw against elves. On the Draw, My turn 1: Swords on Deathrite, Turn 2: Sudden Demise for one - killing three 1/1's, Turn 3: Sharpshooter facing an Elvish Visionary. A few turns later my opponent played a Bitterblossom after picking up and rereading Goblin Sharpshooter a few times. :eek:
Sure that last story is Magical Christmas Land, but I felt like sharing because the Bitterblossom punt was both surreal and hilarious. On average Goblin Sharpshooter is still one of the best sideboarding options against Elves. It tends to play a lot better in the later turns than another copy of Sudden Demise would. You load up on removal after sideboarding so it isn't hard to sequence a turn or two of removal spells and then tutor for sharpshooter.
The ability to repeat sharpshooter's effect is why I think it's the best pinger option. The card is great against Pyromancer and Mentor as well. Monk tokens are typically 1/1's and if you run a tight mana denial plan against Miracles you can often kill all their monks in response to their only prowess activation. You can also force them to activate prowess on your turn if you can't immediately kill monk tokens off - saving your life total a bit.
In my experience, Fireslinger is much better against Infect. I think the SB I've been running (2 PTE, 3 Canonists, 2 Fireslingers) definitely turns Infect into a positive match-up. I have always been happy to be able to cast them t2.
Sharpshooter is better against Elves and Pyro decks or any other creature deck where you want a pinger, but is really slow / and even beatable once online vs Infect. So I think the pinger of choice depends on what deck you want to beat.
Also I still don't see the logic of SBing Sharpshooter vs Mentor. A competent opponent can just totally blank the Sharpshooter by holding up a single spell. That is so easy to play around that it honestly seems like you shouldn't even SB them in. Also playing 0/1s vs Miracles seems like a generally bad idea, like if you have an opening hand of two Moms and a 0/1 you're not gonna go far.
I think the perfect SB card for Mentor decks is 'just don't side out any STP'.
In case you didn't see it. Here is a match that took place this last Sunday D&T vs Lands. Get a stiff drink before you watch, this is a grindfest. Mad props to Mackay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx9VfnVu6tM
I respectfully disagree. If they have the removal spell they're going to be using it to keep your board clear and if they're going to hold onto a Plow to play around Sharpshooter I'm more than happy with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by iatee
I agree that you never want to see it in your opening hand but I honestly just see it as a free-roll to run 1 Sharpshooter in your sideboard. You have 2-3 Recruiters + 4 Flickerwisps to find it, Mom and Equipment to protect it and it is disgustingly good against Pyromancer/Mentor/Elves as well as a host of other tier 2/3 strategies. Sure having it mainboard like I did 6 months ago is a terrible idea, but as a sideboard card it's proven it's merit to me.
Right. What a marathon. Early on, with four Mother of Runes out, I figured Richard to attack with two of them leaving two for protection. I suspect that would have done the trick. But whatever, we would not have had that show put on if he had. Impressive technical play on both sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by c2232
I think keeping 4 plows already ensures that you'll have a sufficient number of answers for Mentors - especially since they usually are only playing 2-3, and usually have only one or two other necessary targets for the rest (Staticaster, Sulfur Elemental) post-board. Going beyond that to play a creature that's ultimately always stuck on defense seems like a bad way to beat a control deck. It's a very good sideboard card for other situations, sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevestamopz