[Deck] Ichorid

Hello everybody I have been reading the source for a while now and I figure it is about time to finally post.

I have been playing Ichorid ever since planar chaos came out and I think I do well with it. I think I am running the traditional list:

Lands

4 City of Brass
4 Gemstone
4 Cephalid Coliseum

Creatures

4 Golgari Cave Trolls
4 Stinkweed Imp
3 Golgari Thug
4 Putrid Imp
4 Ichorid
4 Narcomoeba
1 Flame-kin Zealot
1 Cephalid Sage

Artifacts
4 Lion's Eye Diamonds

Other Spells
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Breakthrough
3 Dread Return
4 Deep Analysis
4 Bridge From Below

Side Board

4 Leyline of the Void
4 Chain of Vapor
3 Ancient Grudge
4 Chalice of the void

The side board is tuned for an enviorment that has stax and multiple leylines. I am bringing this deck to the 40 dual lands tournament in Niles and I'm hoping I will do well.

So has anyone here tried this deck against stax I find I have lots of trouble against it. I wish I could find room for Ray of revelation in the side board to go against ghostly prison.

Does anyone have a suggestion on overall sideboard building I am thinking about taking out the leyline of the voids to make room for rays. Does Leyline help against any decks other than breakfast, spore frog lock and mirror? Any help will be much appreciated.

Leyline is there to protect your Bridges. Any further detrimental effect on your opponent is happy coincidence.

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Originally Posted by Illissius

Leyline is there to protect your Bridges. Any further detrimental effect on your opponent is happy coincidence.

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That is true but with that thought set in your mind do you main deck leyline's?

Does anyone have a leyline MD list that they have tested well, I might take out putrid imp for 4 lotv. I really do like putrid imp but my main plan is to eot discard a dredger but i really like how he can slow roll your engine and then he is ichorid food.

Again I would be most appreciative for advice on building a side board.

You shouldnt maindeck Leyline if your meta is stax oriented. You should instead find the room for 1-2 Ray of Revations. If aggro like Affinity and Goblins arent a big worry for youthe Ray's can take their spots in the board or something.

Ray of Revelation should definitively be in the SB, as well as Ancient Grudge. I've seen many Leylines sbing against us, some Propaganda and Ghostly Prision, and also some Platinium Angel

Hmmm i dont think ancient grudge is good in the sb!
There is no artifact that scares me (expet crypt) but grudge is not the best awnser to a crypt, because you have to hardcast it...
Other problems could be Ensnaring Bridge, Platinum Angel... But who plays that? And Bridge + Angel are 2 slow against you!

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Originally Posted by HdH_Cthulhu

Hmmm i dont think ancient grudge is good in the sb!
There is no artifact that scares me (expet crypt) but grudge is not the best awnser to a crypt, because you have to hardcast it...
Other problems could be Ensnaring Bridge, Platinum Angel... But who plays that? And Bridge + Angel are 2 slow against you!

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When you say hardcast do you mean play it from your hand? Because that's not true at all. If Ancient Grudge gets into your yard you are 100% certain to get rid of that crypt (barring countermagic or something). Either they sac the crypt then and there or you cast it before you attempt to fill up your yard and go off and they sac in response which hopefully leaves you free to do your thing.

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Originally Posted by HdH_Cthulhu

... But who plays that? And Bridge + Angel are 2 slow against you!

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Some Reanimate builds side in Platinum Angel, and they can easily cast on the first turn. But they also have Blazing Archon, and that really hurts.

If you wanna get really lucky and always draw SB cards then Chain of Vapor + Cabal Therapy = Destroy Target Anything, but otherwise I think its a good idea to run 2 Ray 1 Grudge for random stuff like EPlague/GPrison and EBridge/Jitte. Ray also serves as Leyline hate 6-7.

Hey guys I see not too much activity figured someone would want to post about Eldariels post ichorid went 1st in a 50 man tournament. In addition I went 12th place at the 40 dual land tournament here in chicago. Here is my report.

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...821#post179821

Nicely done anyway, even with a manabase so weird. You should play the Cities and Mines, sou you can play Ray of Revelation and Ancient Grudge on your SB, and that allows you to play Gamble as well. Also, you should SB Chalice of the Void or Pithing Needle, but anyway, good job.

First off thanks Lemuria

I know it was weird like i said in the report one of my teammates (who went 0-3) talked me into the reverent silence board. Afterwards I wish i did not play the reverent silence board cuz it hurt me too much post board, not being able to hard cast therapy always hurt me.

I do think I will try the gamble board but im not sold on taking out a single DA because it is so crucial to my play style, one explosive turn so my bridges dont really matter if they chuck a creature in the grave from combat( I also like to wait when they are tapped out take that extripate)because I already got all the zombies I really need. Oh hey guys I have a question for you it came up at the tourny.

3 Bridge from below are in my grave yard. I am attacking with a couple of zombies and 3 Ichorids my opponent has goyf(5/6) and two Quirion Dryad one at 1/1 and the other at 4/4. Ok so here it is, he block all three of my ichorids so he will not die. All three of my ichorids die and his dryad dies. So how exactly does this work. All four go at the same time thus all four trigger bridge.

The judge ruled that I get no zombies because bridge will not be in my graveyard. I decided not to argue with him because I was going to win next turn anyhow.

Now what I thought was that since I own bridge and I am the active player I can control the order of the triggers on the stack thus putting my ichorids on top while his dryad on bottom.

What do you guys think I haven't had the chance to check the rules verbatim just yet. And I figured the more discussion on this thread the better because kid ichorid is just awesome, in fact it is so awesome it pulled me away from faerie stompy which was my first legacy passion.

Well, since you can stack the triggers in your favor after a Damnation, I don't see how this would be any different. Put all the RFG triggers on the stack then put all the zombie triggers on. Zombies are created then the first RFG trigger removes all your bridges and the rest of the RFG triggers do nothing.

The Judge was wrong. Since you are the active player you get to stack the triggers, and if you want zombies you can have the zombie-making triggers resolve first (trigger last) giving you zombies BEFORE they get RFG'd. Bridge from Below can be a complex card rules-wise, but I think its unexcuseable a judge would mess that up...fight him next time.

I opened a lorwyn pack the other day and a got the card Wispmare. Would it be better than Rey since it costs on less (from yard)? Against leyline and planer void you can't use rey (from yard) anyway so might as well use this and get tokens.

Seems worse than Wax//Wane since its sorcery speed, and wont ever give you zombies if Leyline/planar is on the table. I wouldnt even play Wax//Wane tho, Chain of Vapor and Ray of Rev are generally enough.

See I figured that was how it worked. But like I said it didn't matter cuz i was going to win anyhow, but next time if it matters I will destroy him:cool:

So does anyone here have any ideas for a side board with out lotv. In my meta I have never seen a use for it. I mean it would be useful against 43 land but I have to board in enchantment hate against it. So I was just wondering since we run the rainbow lands has anyone given thought to a more diverse side board.

So how is gamble working for everyone, is it worth taking out a DA and somthing else probably a dredger bringing the total to 10. Is it really worth it.

My list goes almost the same as your list, except:

mana base of course :cool:

-2 deep analysis
-1 dread return

+3 gamble

Having Gamble MD is like having extras Breakthroughts or LEDs. The discard doesn't matter, so this is a demonic tutor for R.

Some people tells me that I should cut one Gamble for a Deep Analysis, but I'm quite happy with that build, since Gamble can be every card I want. Course, you sacrifice speed for consistance, but I prefer to play a safe game instead of a risky one. And when I mean "sacrifice speed", that doesn't mean I'm not killing people on turn 2 or 3. :wink:

Also, gamble can search your Rays, Grudges, Chalices, CoV...anyway, good and versatile card for this deck.

The thread is so large that I have no idea if this has been mentioned before but I have built the deck and I am pleased at the speed but I find myself wanting to take out one card from the sideboard for Magus of the Disk for a complete one answer to the hate with few exceptions like layline of the void which of course is what ray is used for along with chain of vapor. Anyone have any ideas whether this would be a positive move or bad move? And what to take out of the sideboard for this guy.

I'd rather run Angel of Despair than Magus, but I wouldn't recommend running her either. If I did tho I guess id cut a Ray/Grudge since it'd serve a similar purpose, and you would have to leave Dread Returns in as well post-SB, which will force you to cut stronger cards.