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everyone is playing answers to ETW against ANT/TES.
Normally K Return EE and Staticaster are very common in miracle
that's why Angler. Very hard to deal with it without STP which is the first card I side out against them.
Anyway, yes, Angler is poor against both Mentor and ETA they need a second choice.
Thing in the Ice? Who is playing REB against them?
everyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by poron
you play REB against ANT? it's a no blue card deck :eek::eek:
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you keep REB to counter Brainstorm and Ponder?
I would stick so much 4 Thing in the Ice there.
1-2, yes.
good to know, thanks
Depending on the list, I have between two and four.
Played a game just this last weekend where 2x pyro and 2 snaps countered all 4 of his brainstorms, I floated a fluster, and had a handful of answers (because he couldn't sculpt his hand, so his discard to push through a win was weak).Quote:
Originally Posted by Poron
to float a Spell Snare for his Infernal Tutor wouldn't have been better?
Anyway, different playstyle. Anyway if reb players side in REB, TitI is not a good idea.
Tasigur, may be
Is anyone still playing a Counterspell in their 75?
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There's an agreement to include at least a single copy of Counterspell. Idea is that if you're replacing Counterspell including catch-alls like Council's Judgment and EE also works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secretly.A.Bee
I've yet to see a decklist posted online anywhere without at least 1 Counterspell maindeck...Quote:
Originally Posted by Secretly.A.Bee
Counterspell seems really strong in the current meta anyway, so I'm not sure why anyone would be cutting them.
I play 3 FoW 3 Cbalance in the maindeck but 2 CSpells.
too many Decays around I am thinking about goong down to 2 CB and up to 3 Jace
i have a quick question for the ones who played spell snare in amindeck or sideboard, do you guys usuaally bor it in vs. team america/grixis delver/ BR reanimator, lands and Shardless BUG?i son't understand itf this is a card that we can board in to prevent our opponent's hate coming in from their board ( so substantially boarding this in to counter a Null/rod, chalice, winter orb, library etc) or if it ids preferrably to board this in only vs. decks that have important targets MD
Spell Snare is just a flexible, low to the ground counter. It has its perks post-board (which you have listed) but is still pretty great pre-board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gros
My primary aim with Spell Snares is to combat other blue cards and the occasional Hymn to Tourach. Like against 4c Control for example, their Snapcaster Mages are effectively the heart and soul of their value pile. Outside of Counterspell or an active Counterbalance + Top there is no good way we can interact with opposing Snapcasters.
I have a maindeck singleton Spell Snare and Spell Pierce at the moment so am trying to make up for their maindeck inclusions by trimming down to 3 REBs and 2 Flusterstorms in the SB and instead replacing them with 2 Vendilion Cliques. Right now I am considering replacing the maindeck Spell Pierce with a REB so that I can justify a basic Mountain in the SB.
I moved from 2 to 1 recently, but I wouldn't sleeve up the deck without at least 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secretly.A.Bee
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"Fight through it."
Worse than Revoker?Quote:
Originally Posted by thefringthing
Haha the fact that it is one-sided, means it can be good in the mirror!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cipher
Worse as in not as good? Yes. I would much rather play against this than a Revoker naming Top.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cipher
Maybe this will be problematic to play against in a burn shellQuote:
Originally Posted by CutthroatCasual
guys what is your opinion on entreat vs burn? If you could choose between mentor or entreat in that match. What whould you choose?
Fetchlands are going to cost 3 life and top activation 2 life :eyebrow:
*/-2 effects are so needed in modern meta
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Mentor, definitely. Burn has inevitability against us, the faster we can close out the game the better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noloam_
It's definitely a nuisance but I would much rather see this than an Eidolon on turn 2. It doesn't kill us for playing cantrips to find answers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gros
Kills you for activating tops or fetchlands though. It also indirectly taxes your brainstorms because you have to pay more life to shuffle cards away.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutthroatCasual
Any thoughts on the recently spoiled By Force? I was actually thinking about wanting a card exactly like this the other day. Compared to Wear / Tear, its a sorcery that can't hit enchantments, but it might be better against something like Death and Taxes, which can present many artifacts we'd want to destroy. There aren't a ton of enchantments running around off the top of my head other than CB and the occasional Sylvan Library. Probably not going to replace Wear / Tear, but is an option if you expect MUD or Stax for some reason.
Aluren, Food Chain, Sneak Attack, Sylvan Library, Choke, ZUR'S WEIRDING?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by phg22
Yeah, pass on this card.
I mean, there are so many shatter effects in the format. Unless you want more than 2 artifacts, which does come up but is pretty rare, Rack and Ruin is probably better. Being instant-speed against Death and Taxes is fairly relevant, given Rishadan Ports and Wastelands. Other than that, this is usually better than something like Shattering Spree against everything that doesn't have counterspells, and I guess it's better in some spots than Meltdown which would fulfill the "kill a lot of artifacts" role pretty effectively previously. There's even Shatterstorm or Vandalblast if you really want to get them badly. Or Smelt, as the cheapest Shatter for Snapcaster Mage purposes. But honestly, I don't see a whole lot of board states that couldn't be decimated by casting Rack and Ruin and then Snapcastering it back. You're probably only killing more than two or three artifacts at once in Magical Christmasland.Quote:
Originally Posted by phg22
The one real truth of deckbuilding when talking about a card like that is, in the vast majority of situations, if you're being decimated by an artifact deck and you need to bring in a lot of hate, it's usually better to bring in a lot of small effects instead of a few big ones. It's better to play 5 Disenchant against the format than it would be to play 2 By Force, as an extreme example, because it leaves you less vulnerable to other decks, and because in most situations, 1-2 Disenchants are going to be good enough. Only when things are truly oppressive, like Affinity in Standard, would you want a card like By Force, and even then it would have to be >30-40% of the metagame for it to be worth sideboard slots.
It does seem like a rather heavy-handed and obvious answer for current Standard, though...
Yeah, that's what I was saying. It seems that they printed the card to hate on Miracles (won't see the light of day in Standard), but it looks like it's just a worse Revoker.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutthroatCasual
Not so sure it's worse.
it's in the color that by turn 4 has already (at least) halved your life and takes both fetchlands and any artitacts.
Additionally it survives artifact removal and has 2 thoughtness.
To buy a playset as soon as it goes to 5$. Being one sided I would play 4 in the mirror
How do you guys feel about hydroblast currently?
Looking at recent tournament results it looks like we need to be prepared for big red. I'm going to start playing 4 hydroblast in my sideboard (or is 3 enough?), Blue Elemental Blast seems a lot worse together with Monastery Mentor on the other hand. It's also a mirror breaker since it stops both the opposing pyroblasts as well as the Keranos, God of Storms and the Nahiri, the Harbinger.
It also kills their Sulfur Elemental, which is currently stopping your monastery mentors (IN PLURAL!).Quote:
Originally Posted by December
I think Hydroblast is really well positioned now.
yeah Hydroblast quotation's better now
I played one in the tournament I was in a few months ago and it was awesome. 3-4 is insanely high. Even 2 is probably too many, but I could get behind it if you didn't want to play more Disenchant effects for some reason. It does stop REB, but if you're looking for a card that does that, Flusterstorm is already played in most sideboards, and people insist on bringing it in in the fair matchups and the mirror, where I can only imagine it's only purpose is winning the counter war. I've felt it to be too narrow for a fair matchup (which is why I prefer Spell Pierce), but it's certainly less narrow than Hydroblast.Quote:
Originally Posted by December
I play one for Sneak Attack decks, for burn and for red-based Delver decks which often have Sulfuric Vortex post-board. It's been incredibly good as a one-of, but the diminishing returns are very steep on that card.
I think Hydro has a place, but I don't think Keranos or Nahiri are factors anywhere but Modern.Quote:
Originally Posted by December
I don't understand how 20 lands can be enough in a double entreat build. Just because you run predict doesn't mean your opening hands get any better and if miracles misses hitting it's land drops it has a real tough time winning. If the 21st land wasn't necessary then i don't think you would see a sideboard slot dedicated to it. If you want to run Predict then that's fine and I think you should as long as the majority of miracles decks are running it because i think not having it when they do could put you at a disadvantage. However, I think that running any more than 2 and you're just wasting space that could go to other control cards. In fact, I see people running less copies of the typical 4 ofs to run more predicts. I can't see how this can be a good idea. More consistency but less tools at your disposal in any given matchup. Don't we want miracles to be flexible and prepared for anything rather than to keep shoving in cantrips attempting to make the deck more linear? Especially these 4 mentor builds. But my concern is not the mentor builds. It's the entreat builds that seem to run not enough lands in game 1.
Have you played the predict heavy entreat builds, at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by drocker23
I have seen a lot of Anzid stream and I enjoyed it, but that deck is not where I want to be.
Wonderful card advantage (4 Predict and 4 SnapMage)
wonderful responsivity to threaths (4 StP 4 REBs 4 SnapMage)
no real threaths apart from FtA and a veeery late EtA.
I am really thinking about the new God (to test)
It resists to Decay and REB it chump blocks Marit Lage it is totally able to win alone it enjoys the card advantage of Predict and can help EOT to thin the deck.
cons: awful against Terminus totally useless 50% of the time
www.twitch.tv/clericofcool streaming some miracles w entreats and predicts.